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00:11:14  <lord-carlos> uff, those light signals are hard to understand

00:20:30  <Eddi|zuHause> red = stop, green = go

00:20:44  <Eddi|zuHause> not difficult at all :p

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02:25:49  <H-land> Some signals confuse me, but others really don't... What I really ought to ask, though.

02:26:35  <H-land> Using FIRS, I can't seem to get oil rigs or fisheries to grow like I can most land based wossnames. Is there something I should be doing?

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02:58:38  <HelloNickname> hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this

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03:04:55  <PLPLPLPL> sorry, I had a bad irc client, repeating myself: hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this

03:08:24  <H-land> I don't understand what you're trying to say.

03:08:49  <H-land> Do you mean that you're concerned that your trains aren't making (enough) money because they're leaving before they're full?

03:19:26  <PLPLPLPL> yes

03:19:33  <PLPLPLPL> they don't get filled by the nearby industry

03:19:50  <PLPLPLPL> let say when I built it I had four cars for coal

03:20:02  <PLPLPLPL> they were getting full now they are about half-full

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03:25:52  <PLPLPLPLPL> H-land u there ?

03:26:10  <H-land> Yes, but I wasn't looking here. Sorry.

03:26:20  <H-land> Do you have it ordered to wait for a full load?

03:29:08  <PLPLPLPLPL> no

03:29:10  <PLPLPLPLPL> should I

03:30:20  <H-land> Yes. Otherwise, they'll just take whatever's lying around when they're at the station and leave.

03:30:49  <H-land> It's not what I'd advise using for passenger trains, but for freight like coal, yes.

03:31:27  <PLPLPLPLPL> another thing

03:31:36  <PLPLPLPLPL> I had one station forking into two different path

03:31:40  <PLPLPLPLPL> on the same exit of that station

03:31:59  <PLPLPLPLPL> because of mutually exclusivity of two trains going in two different direction, it was working fine

03:32:23  <H-land> I might need to see a screenshot here; I'm not understanding the spacial relationship here.

03:32:30  <PLPLPLPLPL> sure

03:32:33  <PLPLPLPLPL> well

03:32:38  <PLPLPLPLPL> that's fine

03:32:46  <PLPLPLPLPL> I'll keep on practicing with the lights before

03:32:53  <PLPLPLPLPL> thanks for your support

03:33:26  <H-land> Mmhmm.

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04:22:30  <SaintMacintosh> hey who knows ai scripting and squirrel?

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04:28:14  <SaintMacintosh> any one here?

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05:36:17  <SaintMacintosh> does any one know NoAI and squirrel?

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06:44:32  <SaintMacintosh> hello

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07:09:44  <Terkhen> good morning

07:13:00  <lord-carlos> stupid game .. it's 9AM and i am still awake >.>

07:16:59  <Terkhen> :)

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09:07:26  <planetmaker> good day

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09:44:02  <wiggy> hi all

09:45:19  <fjb> Moin

09:45:51  <wiggy> hows things?

09:48:53  <planetmaker> g'day

09:53:44  <wiggy> does anyone know if the 2010 version of visual c++ express can be used to compile openttd as the 2008 one doesnt seem to be available any more

09:54:08  <peter1138> try it

09:55:05  <wiggy> im going to but need to download it and didnt want to waste time and bandwidth if it wasnt going to work thats all

09:56:27  <Sacro> wiggy: should be fine

09:56:31  <Sacro> same compiler

09:56:47  <wiggy> cheers sacro

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10:17:18  <Terkhen> wiggy: yes, it can be used

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10:53:47  <Wolf01> hello

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10:58:39  <Terkhen> hi Wolf01

11:06:34  <Eddi|zuHause> the TOC of the callback page is totally confusing

11:07:01  <Eddi|zuHause> better if the numbers are disabled in the TOC

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11:38:32  <Ammler> ap_cmd rescan_newgrf

11:38:33  <Ammler> [2011-06-30 11:35:55] dbg: [misc] The file 'content_download/data/AveiMils_PIGM-0.3.tar' isn't a valid tar-file

11:38:53  <Ammler> delete the files and try again?

11:40:28  <Ammler> looks like an old file

11:41:15  <__ln__> off-topic: gibt es weihnachtsmarkten und glühwein in der schweiz?

11:41:41  <peter1138> udp or tcp?

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11:42:01  <Ammler> __ln__: yes, but of course not that big as in Germany

11:42:49  <__ln__> ok

11:43:10  <Ammler> kinda relative to the city size :-)

11:43:37  <Ammler> and our biggest city has 400k, so you can imagine yourself :-P

11:45:54  <Ammler> peter1138: question to me? we use content command to download stuff

11:46:08  <peter1138> question for anyone

11:46:18  <Ammler> ok, then yes :-P

11:47:11  <__ln__> anyone? ok, in that case i meant tcp glühwein

11:54:46  <Eddi|zuHause> i'll take TCP Glühwein as well

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12:14:16  <Eddi|zuHause> "lower saxony's 'police vulture' program to use birds instead of sniffer dogs to find bodies doesn't 'take off' as expected" :p

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12:34:41  <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.zackenbahn.de/images/fahrzeuge/et87/et87_tz.jpg <-- anyone can decipher these numbers?

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12:39:21  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (42520-10750)/2

12:39:21  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 15885

12:39:51  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000

12:39:51  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.447916666667

12:39:56  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000*16

12:39:56  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 7.16666666667

12:40:09  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/24000*16

12:40:09  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 10.59

12:41:01  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/26000*16

12:41:01  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 6.61538461538

12:41:07  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/26000*16

12:41:07  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 9.77538461538

12:42:35  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, could do 10+8+10 and cheat a little with the length?

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12:49:48  <lugo> German Signals v0.4 has an aligment error with PBS semaphores; at least the version i get from bananas/forums

12:49:57  <lugo> anyone know of a fixed version? :)

12:53:18  <Sacro> check bananas/forums?

12:59:02  <lugo> yeah, it's the same file...

13:01:28  * lugo wonders why noone told the author

13:01:34  * lugo will have to grave digg

13:07:58  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i don't think i understand blender...

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14:00:20  <lugo> Thanks Eddi|zuHause :)

14:02:05  <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: it's actually a really old bug from nsignalsw, which probably was just copy-pasted

14:04:26  <Eddi|zuHause> check this image from 2006: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/nsignalswbugbig.png

14:04:49  <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea if that was ever fixed, thoug

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17:10:30  <ZirconiumX> Hello all

17:11:13  <ZirconiumX> Is the fact that the server is moving the reason why there are no Mac binaries?

17:12:45  <glx> probably yes

17:15:08  <ZirconiumX> explains everything

17:15:15  * ZirconiumX promptly waits

17:15:24  <ZirconiumX> still no binary

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17:45:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22612 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (basque.txt thai.txt):

17:45:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

17:45:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: basque - 7 changes by Thadah

17:45:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: thai - 18 changes by nirakanz

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18:16:43  <Ashiren> good evening

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18:17:19  <Ashiren> is there any detailed server cheker for php/python? mostly online/offline status but other info like users number would be cool too

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18:22:53  <Ammler> Ashiren: there are some libs for, but no complete app

18:23:06  <Ammler> at least for python and java

18:23:16  <Ashiren> i see

18:23:31  <Ashiren> but simple status checker is available?

18:23:39  <Ashiren> the only one i found parses the server list tab

18:23:46  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/admintools

18:23:53  <Ashiren> thank you

18:23:58  <Ammler> the pyhton lib is on bitcket, afaik

18:24:10  <Ammler> bitbucket*

18:25:16  <Ammler> Ashiren: we use openttdlib, a php app which is not using the new interface

18:25:31  <Ammler> e.g. www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable

18:25:57  <Ammler> or s/stable/p{s,z}/

18:30:52  <Ashiren> i appreciate your help

18:30:53  <Ashiren> bye

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18:34:43  <andythenorth> evenings

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19:08:24  <Wolf01> hello

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21:20:41  <Eddi|zuHause> he forgot the call-operator

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21:28:57  <Wolf01> 'night

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21:38:15  <Terkhen> good night

21:39:50  <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? there's a "DB XL 1.0" on bananas :p

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21:52:39  <Hirundo> OpenTTD tells me the grf is already on my pc

21:52:52  <Hirundo> "DB Set, gefunden im Netz. Credits gehen an den Author, leider kann ich nicht sagen wer das ist."

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21:59:20  <Eddi|zuHause> sounds highly suspicious

21:59:39  <supermop> ha

22:04:28  <Eddi|zuHause> but i thought bananas rejects all "known" grf-ids?

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22:07:36  <Hirundo> where does it look for such 'known' grfids?

22:07:52  <planetmaker> data and content_download/data

22:08:08  <planetmaker> but bananas does not reject all 'known' grfs

22:08:22  <planetmaker> actually none. Except those whose grfID is already uploaded

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22:08:34  <planetmaker> and dbxl IS uploaded

22:08:44  <planetmaker> but just made unavailable to all, thus blocked

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22:09:04  <planetmaker> others had that bright idea before this current occurance

22:09:18  <Eddi|zuHause> i was once told all mb-ids got "banned", because people frequently uploaded them

22:09:39  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yes, they actually are. By having them due to those actions already there.

22:09:47  <planetmaker> and double grfID doesn't work

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22:10:25  <Ammler> stupid bananas rule

22:10:41  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: so how can this happen?

22:13:28  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: dunno. Other grfID?

22:13:45  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but why would it then say the grf already is downloaded?

22:14:05  <planetmaker> maybe it is the grfID of a manually added grf?

22:14:12  <planetmaker> I haven't tested it nor can I right now

22:15:01  <Eddi|zuHause> the download window doesn't say the grfid/md5sum

22:15:11  <Eddi|zuHause> and it's not on binaries.openttd.org

22:16:00  <planetmaker> not yet probably. It's not immediately synced

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22:21:43  <Ammler> or an older version not available anymore

22:22:53  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 282133/1024

22:22:53  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 275.520507812

22:23:52  <Ammler> Rubidium: published from time to time a list with grfids

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23:26:52  <Eddi|zuHause> "Bundestag [german parliament] decides shutdown of all nuclear power stations until 2022 with vast majority"

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23:52:53  <DanMacK> Hey All

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