IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2011-06-30
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00:11:14 <lord-carlos> uff, those light signals are hard to understand
00:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause> red = stop, green = go
00:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> not difficult at all :p
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02:25:49 <H-land> Some signals confuse me, but others really don't... What I really ought to ask, though.
02:26:35 <H-land> Using FIRS, I can't seem to get oil rigs or fisheries to grow like I can most land based wossnames. Is there something I should be doing?
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02:58:38 <HelloNickname> hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this
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03:04:55 <PLPLPLPL> sorry, I had a bad irc client, repeating myself: hi, I've read on a forum that trains are not getting full but I am getting very bad load in some of my trains, is there a way to improve this
03:08:24 <H-land> I don't understand what you're trying to say.
03:08:49 <H-land> Do you mean that you're concerned that your trains aren't making (enough) money because they're leaving before they're full?
03:19:33 <PLPLPLPL> they don't get filled by the nearby industry
03:19:50 <PLPLPLPL> let say when I built it I had four cars for coal
03:20:02 <PLPLPLPL> they were getting full now they are about half-full
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03:26:10 <H-land> Yes, but I wasn't looking here. Sorry.
03:26:20 <H-land> Do you have it ordered to wait for a full load?
03:30:20 <H-land> Yes. Otherwise, they'll just take whatever's lying around when they're at the station and leave.
03:30:49 <H-land> It's not what I'd advise using for passenger trains, but for freight like coal, yes.
03:31:36 <PLPLPLPLPL> I had one station forking into two different path
03:31:40 <PLPLPLPLPL> on the same exit of that station
03:31:59 <PLPLPLPLPL> because of mutually exclusivity of two trains going in two different direction, it was working fine
03:32:23 <H-land> I might need to see a screenshot here; I'm not understanding the spacial relationship here.
03:32:46 <PLPLPLPLPL> I'll keep on practicing with the lights before
03:32:53 <PLPLPLPLPL> thanks for your support
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04:22:30 <SaintMacintosh> hey who knows ai scripting and squirrel?
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05:36:17 <SaintMacintosh> does any one know NoAI and squirrel?
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07:13:00 <lord-carlos> stupid game .. it's 9AM and i am still awake >.>
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09:53:44 <wiggy> does anyone know if the 2010 version of visual c++ express can be used to compile openttd as the 2008 one doesnt seem to be available any more
09:55:05 <wiggy> im going to but need to download it and didnt want to waste time and bandwidth if it wasnt going to work thats all
10:17:18 <Terkhen> wiggy: yes, it can be used
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11:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the TOC of the callback page is totally confusing
11:07:01 <Eddi|zuHause> better if the numbers are disabled in the TOC
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11:38:33 <Ammler> [2011-06-30 11:35:55] dbg: [misc] The file 'content_download/data/AveiMils_PIGM-0.3.tar' isn't a valid tar-file
11:38:53 <Ammler> delete the files and try again?
11:40:28 <Ammler> looks like an old file
11:41:15 <__ln__> off-topic: gibt es weihnachtsmarkten und glühwein in der schweiz?
11:42:01 <Ammler> __ln__: yes, but of course not that big as in Germany
11:43:10 <Ammler> kinda relative to the city size :-)
11:43:37 <Ammler> and our biggest city has 400k, so you can imagine yourself :-P
11:45:54 <Ammler> peter1138: question to me? we use content command to download stuff
11:46:08 <peter1138> question for anyone
11:47:11 <__ln__> anyone? ok, in that case i meant tcp glühwein
11:54:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i'll take TCP Glühwein as well
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12:14:16 <Eddi|zuHause> "lower saxony's 'police vulture' program to use birds instead of sniffer dogs to find bodies doesn't 'take off' as expected" :p
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12:39:21 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (42520-10750)/2
12:39:51 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000
12:39:51 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.447916666667
12:39:56 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/24000*16
12:39:56 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 7.16666666667
12:40:09 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/24000*16
12:41:01 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 10750/26000*16
12:41:01 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 6.61538461538
12:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 15885/26000*16
12:41:07 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 9.77538461538
12:42:35 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, could do 10+8+10 and cheat a little with the length?
12:49:48 <lugo> German Signals v0.4 has an aligment error with PBS semaphores; at least the version i get from bananas/forums
12:49:57 <lugo> anyone know of a fixed version? :)
12:59:02 <lugo> yeah, it's the same file...
13:01:28 * lugo wonders why noone told the author
13:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i don't think i understand blender...
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14:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause> lugo: it's actually a really old bug from nsignalsw, which probably was just copy-pasted
14:04:26 <Eddi|zuHause> check this image from 2006: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/nsignalswbugbig.png
14:04:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea if that was ever fixed, thoug
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17:11:13 <ZirconiumX> Is the fact that the server is moving the reason why there are no Mac binaries?
17:15:08 <ZirconiumX> explains everything
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17:45:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r22612 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/ (basque.txt thai.txt):
17:45:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: basque - 7 changes by Thadah
17:45:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: thai - 18 changes by nirakanz
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18:17:19 <Ashiren> is there any detailed server cheker for php/python? mostly online/offline status but other info like users number would be cool too
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18:22:53 <Ammler> Ashiren: there are some libs for, but no complete app
18:23:06 <Ammler> at least for python and java
18:23:31 <Ashiren> but simple status checker is available?
18:23:39 <Ashiren> the only one i found parses the server list tab
18:23:58 <Ammler> the pyhton lib is on bitcket, afaik
18:25:16 <Ammler> Ashiren: we use openttdlib, a php app which is not using the new interface
18:25:31 <Ammler> e.g. www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable
18:30:52 <Ashiren> i appreciate your help
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21:20:41 <Eddi|zuHause> he forgot the call-operator
21:39:50 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? there's a "DB XL 1.0" on bananas :p
21:52:39 <Hirundo> OpenTTD tells me the grf is already on my pc
21:52:52 <Hirundo> "DB Set, gefunden im Netz. Credits gehen an den Author, leider kann ich nicht sagen wer das ist."
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21:59:20 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds highly suspicious
22:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause> but i thought bananas rejects all "known" grf-ids?
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22:07:36 <Hirundo> where does it look for such 'known' grfids?
22:07:52 <planetmaker> data and content_download/data
22:08:08 <planetmaker> but bananas does not reject all 'known' grfs
22:08:22 <planetmaker> actually none. Except those whose grfID is already uploaded
22:08:34 <planetmaker> and dbxl IS uploaded
22:08:44 <planetmaker> but just made unavailable to all, thus blocked
22:09:04 <planetmaker> others had that bright idea before this current occurance
22:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i was once told all mb-ids got "banned", because people frequently uploaded them
22:09:39 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yes, they actually are. By having them due to those actions already there.
22:09:47 <planetmaker> and double grfID doesn't work
22:10:41 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: so how can this happen?
22:13:28 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: dunno. Other grfID?
22:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but why would it then say the grf already is downloaded?
22:14:05 <planetmaker> maybe it is the grfID of a manually added grf?
22:14:12 <planetmaker> I haven't tested it nor can I right now
22:15:01 <Eddi|zuHause> the download window doesn't say the grfid/md5sum
22:15:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's not on binaries.openttd.org
22:16:00 <planetmaker> not yet probably. It's not immediately synced
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22:21:43 <Ammler> or an older version not available anymore
22:22:53 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 282133/1024
22:22:53 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 275.520507812
22:23:52 <Ammler> Rubidium: published from time to time a list with grfids
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23:26:52 <Eddi|zuHause> "Bundestag [german parliament] decides shutdown of all nuclear power stations until 2022 with vast majority"
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