IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2010-06-18
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01:16:06 <zachanim1> r20000, anything planned?
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01:41:38 <fjb> Meeting in Braunschweig. See the forum.
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07:17:33 <planetmaker> I'd like to ask: are there means to obtain the build date of a depot?
07:17:43 <planetmaker> I haven't found one, but I might just be blind and ignorant
07:18:33 <planetmaker> changing depot graphics as a function of the current date is not so much fun as as a function of its build date ;-)
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08:43:16 <SmatZ> planetmaker: afaik, the build date is not stored anywhere
08:44:46 <planetmaker> I feared as much - and opened a feature request ;-)
08:45:17 <planetmaker> it's somewhat funny, if the building switches colour and shape on 1.1.1966 :-P
08:48:23 <TrueBrain> DorpsGek: what is wrong with you?
08:48:25 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain
08:48:31 <TrueBrain> damn you slow bastard
08:50:46 <peter1138> true true truebrain
08:55:24 * andythenorth ponders another 37 FIRS commits for 1k
08:55:31 * andythenorth has real work to do
08:56:37 <VVG> what's a real work compared to 1k commits?
08:57:46 <planetmaker> go, andythenorth, go! :-)
08:59:00 <theholyduck> andythenorth, either your commits each have very little stuff in them, or you work like a nutter
08:59:18 <theholyduck> x264, the worlds leading h264 encoder has 1700 commits or so
08:59:25 <theholyduck> over something like 4 years
08:59:31 <theholyduck> hmm, more like 6 actually
09:01:54 <VVG> i don't get FIRS - mines' production seems to only drop overtime, if i don't use eng supplies. Or is this actually intented behavior?
09:06:51 <TrueBrain> Yexo: where did we say we would meet again?
09:06:55 <TrueBrain> Utrecht, but forgot where :D
09:16:13 <andythenorth> VVG: I can't remember the code, but yes I think it currently randomly drops over time
09:16:44 <andythenorth> there won't be many parameters for FIRS, but there will (one day) be a parameter to control industry production / closing
09:24:36 <VVG> somewhere in FIRS forum thread i read it backs to default production change rountine, if eng supplies aren't present
09:25:14 <andythenorth> VVG: I can't remember if that is current code
09:29:36 <VVG> such behavior was quite unexpected for me, after default and ECSv industries. I went through about 20 last pages of FIRS development thread to see any indication of how production changes, and the only one i found is the one that it switches to default routine if eng supplies aren't present. thanks for clarifying it now
09:34:41 <__ln__> 11:48 < TrueBrain> DorpsGek: what is wrong with you? 11:48 <@DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain <-- DorpsGek's being honest?
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09:46:43 <andythenorth> VVG: I just read the code, it works as follows:
09:46:51 <andythenorth> ENSP delivered: random chance of increase
09:47:16 <andythenorth> no ENSP delivered. Case 1: current production is high. High chance of production increase
09:47:46 <andythenorth> oops. High chance of production *decrease*
09:48:01 <andythenorth> Case 2: current production is low. Low chance of production decrease
09:48:29 <andythenorth> Case 3: production is at closure threshold. Tiny chance of closure.
09:49:01 <andythenorth> actual values for high / low production vary by industry
09:49:19 <andythenorth> that's the code in current nightly, think it was present in 0.1
09:53:00 <VVG> That makes things even more clear. Very helpful, thnks. It will make an excelent piece of info in first post of FIRS thread and readm. 0.1 readyme i have says closure is disabled, which seems now outdated.
09:53:15 <andythenorth> I can't remember when I made the change :)
09:56:35 <VVG> Do i understand right that this check for supplies pefrormed evry month and approriated cases of action performed also evry month?
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10:19:35 <andythenorth> VVG: yes, production change runs at the start of each month (if I remember correctly)
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11:09:36 <VVG> How do i easily past someone's nickname into typing field in mirc?
11:11:24 <planetmaker> VVG, probably type the initial characters and press tab
11:11:27 <VVG> to it looks like "Markk: insert :)"
11:13:59 <VVG> andythenorth: do you have any limit for how many eng supplies get used per month at primaries planned?
11:15:12 <VVG> I'm trying now local transfer stations for frequent supplying primaries with engsupplies, but that means i do that in low quantities. i wonder if that is a design feature
11:15:43 <planetmaker> VVG, 1 supply per month is sufficient for the effect to take place
11:16:15 <andythenorth> it's a design feature
11:16:39 <andythenorth> it mimics the town growth behaviour of default TTD
11:17:07 * andythenorth suspects the question will keep getting asked for the next n years though :P
11:17:40 <planetmaker> andythenorth, FAQ / readme :-P
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12:00:15 <VVG> andythenorth: does amount of supplies avaible have any effect on chance of increase and/or actual production increase?
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12:21:00 <Yexo> TrueBrain: at the stadium, right?
12:21:33 <Yexo> I still have to figure out which bus to take there
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12:23:59 <Yexo> TrueBrain: do you have a "pomp voor een luchtbed"?
12:24:26 <glx> mouth works well for that ;)
12:24:39 <Yexo> yes, but that's a lot of work :p
12:24:45 <TrueBrain> can ask for one here ...
12:24:48 <TrueBrain> need something myself too :p
12:24:56 <glx> 12V compressor is better :)
12:25:14 <Yexo> planetmaker: do you have one?
12:25:23 <Yexo> a pump for an air mattress?
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12:35:58 <__ln__> greetings from Bjarniland's airport
12:42:12 <ccfreak2k> Yexo, could also be a tire pump.
12:44:33 <ccfreak2k> Although I guess "luchtbed" doesn't match.
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13:17:35 <Zuu> And will have about 20 hour of going on train this weekend :-)
13:18:17 <Zuu> And a 60 pages long report to review.
13:20:23 * andythenorth hopes for some nice code this weekend :)
13:20:33 * andythenorth will contribute some FIRS in return
13:20:49 <Zuu> how is your commit script going? :-)
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13:22:07 * andythenorth waves two fingers at Zuu
13:22:12 <andythenorth> go read the diffs :P
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13:23:54 <Zuu> hmm, google intreprete "firs" as first :-(
13:24:13 <Zuu> is there a website where the firs svn log can be seen?
13:25:31 <Zuu> Thanks, btw, have you yet added firs to grf-crawler?
13:27:50 <Zuu> I see many "Change: provide cb28 spacing of distances for ..." with about a second between each commit. However you did stop quite far from r1000
13:28:18 <andythenorth> Zuu: I've got to think of another 37 easy changes :P
13:28:23 <andythenorth> each of those commits is valid
13:28:47 <andythenorth> Each is a significant change to an industry. And each one has to be tested before commit.
13:29:05 <andythenorth> They are 1s apart because I pushed them all at once :)
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13:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... the 32bpp extra zoom graphics heavily increase the toy railway factor...
13:52:12 <planetmaker> Is there a way for a rail tile to query whether it's part of a station or depot?
13:52:44 <planetmaker> afaik they 'just' get the normal track - and then the station or depot drawn on top of it.
13:54:01 <Yexo> if it's about snow on the tracks in the depot the querying the tile type won't help you for stations
13:54:08 <Yexo> some stations are "open" and some have a roof
13:59:32 <planetmaker> true. But that's exactly what it's about
14:00:48 <Yexo> for depots you can solve it in another way, right?
14:01:10 <planetmaker> I can draw the depots with the tracks included
14:01:17 <planetmaker> effectively over-painting the drawn tracks
14:01:38 <planetmaker> stations is another issue... they're independent sets
14:02:17 <Yexo> station tiles would need a bit to indicate whether they have a roof or not
14:02:31 <Yexo> then rail tiles could query "roof or not", which would return true for depots
14:03:11 <planetmaker> feature request ;-)
14:03:18 <planetmaker> so many there are
14:03:37 <planetmaker> btw, other construction site: did you see my NML report?
14:03:56 <Yexo> param in switch range <- that one, right?
14:04:13 <Yexo> I'll try and fix that now
14:04:43 <planetmaker> the apples are already bought ;-)
14:05:22 <Yexo> do you have a pump for an air mattress?
14:05:55 <Zuu_> Hmm, that would be usefull, I've put mine into my bag, but I've not left Sweden yet. :-)
14:06:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never left sweden in my whole life :p
14:07:54 <Zuu_> I'll bring mine unless I'm told pm has one of the right type.
14:08:41 <fjb> Hm, signals on bridgeheads would be a nice feature in my actual game.
14:10:36 <Zuu_> Mine is about 8-10 mm I think.
14:13:07 <planetmaker> hm.... not much room in my fridge anymore ;-)
14:13:24 <Zuu_> That we'll solve tomorrow :-)
14:14:36 <Yexo> what about breakfast sunday morning? bringing some bread etc. isn't a problem as long as I know what to bring
14:14:42 <planetmaker> the weather forecast is not of the nice kind really :-(
14:15:07 <planetmaker> Yexo: I have a bit of cheese and marmelades
14:15:16 <planetmaker> I thought we get rolls from the bakery on Sunday
14:16:22 <planetmaker> I don't have Smutjes, though ;-)
14:18:54 <Zuu_> heh, saturday is rather okay, only "chance for showers" in the afternoon, but on suday it is "slight chance for thunderstorm" :-p
14:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause> we should have done it today :)
14:19:29 <planetmaker> well. Doesn't really make a difference
14:19:38 <planetmaker> yeah, today is fine weather... sort of
14:20:11 <Zuu_> Hmm, i'm soon getting of this train. See you tomorrow!
14:20:13 <planetmaker> well. I've two tents.
14:20:27 <planetmaker> Have a safe travel
14:20:53 <Zuu_> thanks. I've even made a hand-written map over your area :-)
14:21:17 <planetmaker> he. I thought everyone used google maps and just a print-out of it.
14:22:00 <Zuu_> Well, no printer on the train :-p and it would be to expansive to go online to google maps arbroad. :-(
14:22:19 <Zuu_> Unfortutately my flatrate only works within sweden.
14:22:32 <planetmaker> well... I'd have assumed you got that at home :-P
14:22:53 <Zuu_> I got a printer at one of my homes but didn't remember to do that.
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14:44:42 <Belugas> hooo.... Zuu is a rich man....
14:52:22 * planetmaker wonders wether...
14:52:41 <planetmaker> ...the first random highlight had more sense than just being annoying
14:52:46 <planetmaker> hello Belugas :-)
14:53:35 <planetmaker> I still have one spot reserved :)
15:00:05 <zachanim1> planetmaker, not really
15:00:09 <zachanim1> was it annoying? T_T
15:02:28 <planetmaker> I usually assume someone wants to talk to me then for... some reason ;-)
15:05:01 <Belugas> or at least wave at you, when they are people you know :)
15:07:04 <zachanim1> I just wanted to say teh_hi
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15:33:16 <Belugas> planetmaker, you should be honnored ;) he hailed you above all the other guys in here ;)
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17:45:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r19994 /trunk/src/lang/ (slovak.txt unfinished/irish.txt):
17:45:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: irish - 108 changes by tem
17:45:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: slovak - 17 changes by keso53
17:50:27 <SirSquidness> oh man, so close
17:50:31 * SirSquidness bounces around a bit :D
17:51:55 <GVV> andythenorth: is 936 savegame compatible with 913 version?
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18:00:39 <planetmaker> SirSquidness: tomorrow ;-)
18:10:20 <Belugas> unless i commit a typo which will end up in about 4 other commits to fix the typo fix since i don't compile...
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18:12:47 <Belugas> i am doing this build of our app
18:12:58 <Belugas> it's version : 5.7.7 RL
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18:34:19 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like we'll be passing the Hbf on our way
18:47:39 <planetmaker> coming from Halle?
18:47:56 <planetmaker> as I'd assume you come via A2
18:48:40 <planetmaker> loool @ Belugas ' app version
18:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i did tell you in the past that i'm not actually in Halle, but outside, on the "wrong" side of the river...
18:51:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so we'd come via B6
18:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause> A14/A2 could theoretically be faster, but they haven't finished the A143 yet
18:52:22 <planetmaker> yeah... but still I thought A14/A2 is faster
18:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> so there is no sensible way to cross the river
18:52:41 <planetmaker> then you'll come past the station probably, yes
18:53:08 <Eddi|zuHause> B6 is 20km shorter
18:53:19 <Eddi|zuHause> according to google
18:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't believe it saying that it's not going to be faster
18:54:17 <Eddi|zuHause> google says difference is 2 minutes
18:54:28 <Eddi|zuHause> but i know the road it's suggesting, and i don't believe it...
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19:01:53 <michi_cc> planetmaker: Anything I should bring tomorrow?
19:02:53 <planetmaker> ah, moin & welcome back
19:03:04 <planetmaker> hm, yes, maybe: bring Baguette
19:03:17 <planetmaker> suficient for 14 people to come along with BBQ
19:03:37 <planetmaker> then I can skip buying that tomorrow and 'just' bake cake :-)
19:03:50 <planetmaker> I have 3 'Fladenbrot' already, though
19:04:20 <planetmaker> gah.. discussing BBQ in English is not 100% trivial
19:04:21 <michi_cc> no problem if they have enough in the shop, trunk of the car is big enough :)
19:04:42 <planetmaker> and bring good weather :-P
19:04:56 <michi_cc> enough meat and drinks are present?
19:05:18 <andythenorth> FIRS 964...not many to go :)
19:05:24 <planetmaker> It's always hard to judge if it's too little, too much or just right
19:05:38 <michi_cc> Just hope I didn't bring Vancouver weather along because that's mostly rain :)
19:05:42 <planetmaker> two sausages for everyone, some spare ribs, some steaks
19:06:12 <planetmaker> oh... and "Bauchfleisch"
19:06:29 <planetmaker> like 1.5 per nose
19:06:43 <planetmaker> same with the steaks I *think*
19:06:57 <planetmaker> and the spare ribs. Always a factor 1.5 on the number of people or so
19:07:22 <planetmaker> zachanima: yes, there is somewhere. About the r20k meeting
19:07:42 <michi_cc> should be enough I guess. If I see something looking very tasty I might buy a bit
19:07:43 <planetmaker> But I think no one replied there what they bring ;-)
19:08:14 <zachanima> planetmaker, yeah, I was just uh
19:08:40 <planetmaker> michi_cc: I don't have bought specifically strong ones
19:09:02 <planetmaker> Two sets of beer, a 5l keg and SmatZ is bringing a car full of beer
19:09:11 <michi_cc> I'm driving, so I don't care
19:09:22 <planetmaker> I have also alcohol free yeast beer :-)
19:09:40 <planetmaker> I've a bit coke, Apfelschorle, some juices
19:09:54 <planetmaker> And a set of Bionade
19:09:56 <SpComb> and a working WLAN? :)
19:10:09 <planetmaker> I just looked up my WAP password :-)
19:10:18 <planetmaker> so that I actually will recall tomorrow ;-)
19:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i can bring a few bottles of Fanta, if you want
19:10:52 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: if you want. I never drink that stuff. That's why I try to avoid getting large stocks of that around here
19:11:29 <Eddi|zuHause> 2x1.5l Fanta, 1x1.5l Sprite?
19:11:29 <michi_cc> Do you need any help setting things up? I should be able to manage getting up early enough tomorrow :)
19:11:31 <planetmaker> I have a bit bitter lemon, tonic water and one bottle of orangina here
19:11:34 <SpComb> planetmaker: how many people do you know are coming?
19:11:48 <planetmaker> michi_cc: I guess it'll be fine.
19:11:53 <Eddi|zuHause> value: about 5€ ;)
19:12:01 <planetmaker> though if you feel like come along when you want :-)
19:12:02 <Rubidium> WAP as in WPA or as in WEP?
19:12:20 <SpComb> wap-only network access
19:12:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds fun... ;)
19:12:49 <SpComb> set up your own WML proxy
19:13:05 <Eddi|zuHause> ... i have no reasonable laptop anyway
19:13:22 <planetmaker> well. I can provide cable connection, too ;-)
19:13:24 * andythenorth has just got an iPad
19:13:27 <andythenorth> for work purposes
19:13:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a 486SX25, but the battery is dead, and it doesn't have WLAN
19:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> or any other kind of LAN for that matter
19:14:26 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: well, bring those drinks, if you like
19:14:32 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 13.5714285714
19:14:50 <Eddi|zuHause> it should have a 200MB hard disk, 8MB ram and win95 on it
19:16:14 <planetmaker> well, I have food worth 13€ per expected person here right now :-)
19:16:39 <planetmaker> zachanima: it's in Braunschweig
19:17:00 <planetmaker> we start at ~13:30 when the Dutch start playing ;-)
19:17:31 <Eddi|zuHause> northern germany
19:17:55 <planetmaker> 52.2670°N, 10.5330°
19:18:01 <zachanima> open to not-so-into-the-community-yet?
19:18:46 <planetmaker> where about are you from?
19:18:47 <Yexo> planetmaker: about the cost: do you prefer some cash tomorrow or do you want it via bank transfer (in that case, mail me the details)?
19:18:52 * andythenorth has 33 commits to go :P
19:19:00 <planetmaker> Yexo: I don't really care :-)
19:20:09 <planetmaker> I trust all participating persons enough for either way
19:20:30 <planetmaker> what do you like?
19:21:13 <Yexo> I don't care, cash is easy but I can image you don't like too much cash at home
19:21:53 <Yexo> TrueBrain: ^^ same question to you for the fual / car rental cots
19:23:46 <TrueBrain> eeeuuuuhhhh .... don't care :p
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19:26:03 <planetmaker> Yexo: that's not more cash than I can handle
19:26:18 <planetmaker> I have to re-fill my canteen card anyway next week :-P
19:26:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i wonder how much i still have on mine...
19:26:59 <Eddi|zuHause> haven't used it in a year
19:27:55 <planetmaker> zachanima: if you feel like you're very welcome tomorrow
19:28:54 <zachanima> planetmaker, thanks, I'
19:29:05 <planetmaker> michi_cc: coming to think about it: it might be helpful if you could come a bit earlier
19:29:12 <zachanima> I'll look into the cost (which is the major concern, really - obviously I love travelling by rail =)
19:29:16 <planetmaker> we have to setup the tents and move the tables / seats
19:29:24 <planetmaker> two more hands might be very welcome there
19:29:44 <planetmaker> you're not the furthest away then, zachanima
19:29:50 <Rubidium> the "French" kinda destroyed that "love" for trains for me
19:30:20 <zachanima> planetmaker, really? Hmm
19:30:28 <zachanima> what bahnhof should I aim for, if I decided to go?
19:30:33 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: you probably missed __ln__, he apparently passed through there earlier today
19:30:44 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: Braunschweig Hbf
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19:31:27 <zachanima> honestly though, is there an info page or something? times, what to bring, cost etc.?
19:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: as far as i understood it, he took the plane from finland to denmark
19:31:37 <planetmaker> oh, for anyone coming tomorrow: if you're unsuccessful with my door bell: walk around the house into the garden
19:31:55 <planetmaker> zachanima: there's not
19:32:02 <planetmaker> it's mostly organized in this channel
19:32:02 <zachanima> I have a friend from Finland who flies to Breakpoint every year (well, he did until it stopped)
19:32:11 <zachanima> and I'd take the train and we'd be there at the same time
19:32:24 <zachanima> about 8 hours' travel
19:32:30 <planetmaker> I only did a forum post a week ago
19:33:21 <planetmaker> quite unfortunate I won't be able to host more people over night than I count now; but I think I gave an account of a few hotels in that forum post
19:33:39 <zachanima> so, what are the times?
19:33:54 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: start is around 14:00-ish
19:34:35 <planetmaker> if we know that someone is coming later we'll keep a piece of cake :-)
19:35:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the current estimate is we arrive between 14:00 and 14:30
19:35:27 <Eddi|zuHause> but no battle plan ever survived the first contact with the enemy :p
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19:37:58 <planetmaker> anything urgent someone needs to know? I'm off for the next 30 or 45 minutes - getting our Swiss colegue from the station ;-)
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19:46:46 * andythenorth wonders how the electrical substation is provided in FIRS
19:46:51 <andythenorth> there appears to be no code for it :P
19:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause> cool, how you sit in front of code and think "which idiot has written/documented this?!?" :p
19:51:53 <Alberth> and then realize you wrote it yourself :p
19:52:33 <andythenorth> in this case, FooBar wrote it....but we can't blame the absent ones :)
19:52:49 <andythenorth> I don't know what he wrote, because I can't find it. But it works
19:53:29 <Alberth> as long as that stays the case, all is well :)
19:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause> the way i look at NFO code is search the (real-)sprite, then look around that location
19:57:18 * andythenorth has an interesting feature request
19:57:49 <andythenorth> with newgrf industries....for any industry type, default production is the same when built
19:57:59 <andythenorth> for default industries, production is randomised on construction
19:58:29 <andythenorth> I can't see a way to randomise prop 12 when constructing an industry
20:00:24 <Rubidium> high doses of radiation focussed at the right location
20:00:50 <andythenorth> shake the machine hard enough that the bits move around
20:01:13 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause oil wells - one big industry high production, or many small ones, but very close so all can be served with one station?
20:01:24 <andythenorth> second version sucks for ENSP behaviour
20:03:53 <Eddi|zuHause> first one sounds better, but make sure it doesn't flatten the land
20:05:24 <ccfreak2k> andythenorth, I would advise prayer to the right gods.
20:05:37 <ccfreak2k> A sacrifice wouldn't hurt either, unless YOU are the sacrifice.
20:06:59 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I can do it with 1 tile oil-pumps, and allow building on slopes (when I figure that out) :P
20:07:13 * andythenorth wonders about PBI oil well sprites
20:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't like the "tower" style oil pumps of PBI
20:07:49 <Eddi|zuHause> earlier PBI had nicer ones
20:08:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: so when can we expect you over here? :p
20:10:18 * andythenorth likes the PBI animated nodding-donkey pumps
20:10:23 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 8 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 6 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Pikka> @calc andythenorth
20:13:02 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: farms above the snowline....I'm thinking cut production by 1/3
20:13:10 <andythenorth> need to balance game play and reality :)
20:14:10 <andythenorth> any other ideas?
20:14:17 <andythenorth> it's wide open at the moment :)
20:14:45 <Eddi|zuHause> the silly thing about stopping industry production in winter is that you still need a train waiting, or the rating will be low in the next spring
20:15:32 <andythenorth> I could simply prevent farms above snow line
20:15:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but i never had any farms above always-summer snowline in alpine...
20:15:55 <Yexo> maybe only increase production during spring/summer and only decrease production during winter?
20:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: snow line can change
20:16:16 <andythenorth> that is an additional complication :)
20:16:42 <andythenorth> game always starts in January?
20:16:50 <Yexo> I mean use the normal increase/decrease code but prevent increasing production during the winter
20:17:04 <andythenorth> someone has a grf supporting southern hemisphere so checking months doesn't help :P
20:17:49 <andythenorth> so why should farms above snowline do anything special at all?
20:18:57 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... and if you have too much spare time, could you make the current forest graphics snow-line aware?
20:19:26 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you expect the forests-as-fields feature really soon ;)
20:19:49 <andythenorth> frosch promised it when FIRS hits 1k
20:19:53 <andythenorth> or maybe he said 10k :P
20:22:48 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: excuse the terrible pun, but when it comes to snowline....
20:22:55 <andythenorth> I would say this is the low-hanging fruit :P
20:23:14 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, i flew to denmark and then further to hannover.
20:23:35 <michi_cc> planetmaker: when should I come? around 12?
20:28:03 * andythenorth runs out of easy FIRS commits
20:29:34 <Eddi|zuHause> making forests snow-aware is "easy", because both graphics are already there ;)
20:30:24 * andythenorth ponders digging out the default tiles
20:30:35 <andythenorth> the current code just uses the existing industry almost 100%
20:42:06 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Zuu was last seen in #openttd 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Zuu> :-)
20:46:38 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Zuu_ was last seen in #openttd 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Zuu_> bye
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21:25:33 <planetmaker> michi_cc: yeah, might be good time
21:44:24 <TrueBrain> Yexo / Rubidium: tot morgen, 10:00, Utrecht :)
21:44:43 * Yexo and alberth will arrive 9:45 if everything goes according to plan
21:47:52 * andythenorth plans some additional industry layouts
21:49:40 <zachanima> connections from the station to uh, the place (where is it? someone's flat?) won't be too difficult/expensive, right?
22:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause> zachanima: in the order of 1,50€ probably...
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22:05:20 <zachanima> well, shouldn't be a problem then ^^
22:06:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know who else arrives by train... depending on the time, something might be organised to pick you up
22:06:58 <zachanima> it'll be past 14 so
22:07:08 <zachanima> 14:41, if the train schedule is anything to go by
22:07:14 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise, plan for tram/bus towards "Burgundenplatz" or "Siegfriedstraße"
22:07:22 <zachanima> so planetmaker tells me ^^
22:07:45 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i checked, it had one transfer in it...
22:11:51 <zachanima> I should be able to figure that out
22:11:59 <zachanima> I can read/listen to german just fine, anyway
22:12:14 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: depends: tram: maybe, maybe not. bus: yes
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23:10:16 <fjb> I'm going by car and could carry 4 persons from the railway station to planetmaker.
23:10:37 <zachanima> fjb, any takers yet? And when would this be?
23:11:21 <fjb> Nobody yet. When? Don't know. When will it begin? Just came home.
23:11:53 <zachanima> think it's about 14
23:12:06 <zachanima> I won't be at the station till 14:41 though, so ... yes
23:13:49 <fjb> Hm, I didn't plan anything yet.
23:14:12 <fjb> When will the others arrive?
23:15:55 <fjb> When Do you have to know it? :-)
23:16:31 <zachanima> I'll contact planetmaker then
23:16:46 <zachanima> or you, if you're willing to share your phone number =)
23:17:51 <fjb> Probably I will take you.
23:18:22 <zachanima> that would be nothing less than swell
23:24:07 <fjb> I have sent planetmaker my mobile phone number.
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