IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2009-11-29
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00:02:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the first electric long distance train in germany was the route Stuttgart-München
00:02:37 <Eddi|zuHause> that was around 1937
00:15:51 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: 1971 actually IS an odd number ;)
00:25:29 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i think it was even earlier, 1933 or 1934
00:26:50 <Eddi|zuHause> the connection Leipzig-Nürnberg[-München] was opened 1942, but there wasn't really any "long distance" passenger service during war time
00:29:54 <Rubidium> that depends on your description of passenger and service
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00:41:21 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18331 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp window.cpp window_func.h): -Fix [FS#3334]: news items would with some chat 'bars' not be displayed fully. Fix by erikjanp.
01:00:15 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18332 /trunk/src/ (ai/ai_gui.cpp signs_gui.cpp smallmap_gui.cpp): -Fix: the MSVC compile warnings
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09:01:16 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18333 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Fix (r18127): Station view window did not resize properly when toggling between ratings and acceptance view.
09:05:15 <petern> i didn't know if that was a bug or feature ;)
09:12:39 <Alberth> I wouldn't know, the original window did it like that, and I saw no reason to change it :)
09:15:15 <petern> guess i just missed that bit :s
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09:19:01 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18334 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: No need to test a pointer after using it.
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10:01:53 * fjb also often needs diagonal bridges.
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10:19:26 <Rubidium> those people building 90 degree turns (or double 45 for that matter)
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10:24:44 <Arvid_> I want signals on brigdes and tunnels, built into ttd, not just a patch :)
10:28:48 <fjb> The problem is implementing that in a proper way.
10:33:35 <Terkhen> and deciding what could be the proper way of implementing it
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10:57:03 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18335 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Further reduction of nested_root NULL-ness checking.
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11:01:44 <petern> ... with one tile left to build
11:03:31 <petern> even better, the industry closed down
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11:06:36 <LordAzamath> any russians around? or someone who can speak russian well
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11:13:23 <LordAzamath> can you translate "их блина почти 2,5 км" in context of "Стены московского Кремля очень высокие, их блина почти 2,5 км, они имеют 20 башен. Сейчас стены каменные, а раньше они были деревянные"
11:13:33 <LordAzamath> google translator gave stuff about pancakes
11:13:41 <LordAzamath> I can understand the rest
11:13:49 <worldemar> i may be banned for it
11:14:00 <worldemar> but i can do it privately
11:14:12 <LordAzamath> well privately then :D
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11:48:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18336 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Cleanup (r18092): Remove declaration of an already removed function.
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12:52:23 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18337 /trunk/src/ (46 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Remove 2x2 {SKIP} in the company finances window + strings.
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13:09:13 <planetmaker> e.g. they cannot demolish it?
13:12:34 <Rubidium> (as answer to the latter question)
13:13:02 <planetmaker> hm. A pity :-) They should respect it IMO
13:13:27 <planetmaker> (even though it'd put them at a back seat compared to humans)
13:14:19 <Rubidium> although... if you want to be sure, make an AI that removes the house
13:16:36 <planetmaker> not that I need it, but ... is there _any_ way to know for a newgrf whether a company is an AI or a human in OpenTTD?
13:17:37 <planetmaker> if there is, there's then always callback 143. Then property 19, bit 1 is not in need of support
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13:21:16 <planetmaker> the newgrf expert :-)
13:22:04 <frosch123> is it better to leave again?
13:22:50 <planetmaker> well. I wonder: Does a newgrf have a chance to know whether a company is an AI or a human (concerning callback 143, or property 19, bit 1) for houses?
13:23:16 <planetmaker> e.g. allow destruction by humans, but not by NoAIs
13:24:18 <planetmaker> I know it's quite a specilized question. I just wonder and don't plan immediate support anywhere, so don't bother to spend hours researching it ;-)
13:25:25 <frosch123> CanDeleteHouse checks IsValidHumanID
13:25:54 <frosch123> which checks c->is_ai
13:26:04 <frosch123> so i would expect noais are indeed not allowed to remove those houses
13:26:53 <frosch123> oh, you want it the other way around :p no, that is likely not possible
13:27:39 <frosch123> err, never mind the last sentence
13:28:23 <planetmaker> :-) Hey, thank you
13:28:37 <planetmaker> so property 19 works
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17:20:42 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18338 /trunk/src/lang/ (40 files): -Codechange: remove the need for {SKIP}
17:21:21 <PeterT> argh, another day with commits and entry/exit messages...
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17:24:52 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18339 /trunk/src/ (strings.cpp table/control_codes.h table/strgen_tables.h): -Cleanup: remove SKIP support from strgen too
17:26:36 <frosch123> there are no better commits than removing unneeded/unused stuff
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18:36:22 <TrueBrain> frosch123: at least you told me when WT3 needed update :p
18:37:50 <Rubidium> heh, but it doesn't really *need* the update :)
18:45:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18340 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
18:45:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: finnish - 7 changes by jpx_
18:45:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by planetmaker
18:45:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: greek - 30 changes by
18:45:42 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by alyr
18:45:42 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: indonesian - 4 changes by prof
18:47:07 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: frosch * r18341 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Replace some GetNextVehicle() with GetNextUnit() where needed.
19:20:52 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18342 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Fix: erroneous spaces before ;
19:28:05 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18343 /trunk/src/ (viewport.cpp viewport_func.h): -Fix [FS#3336] (r18243): dark blue signs would be drawn transparent
19:31:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18344 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt train_gui.cpp):
19:31:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Change [FS#2923]: do not split up articulated vehicles in the train details
19:31:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: view. If an articulated vehicle it too 'wide' draw the information on the next
19:31:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: line and if there are multiple cargos split that over multiple lines too. Based
19:31:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: on work by frosch123.
19:34:55 <frosch123> he, someone fixed greek :)
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20:16:59 <Eddi|zuHause> well, apparently fixed greek
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20:23:01 <PeterT> Does @calc follow order of operations?
20:23:47 <Alberth> it uses normal precedence rules afaik, but you a calculator if you don't trust it :)
20:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause> it should, like any other sane calculator
20:24:15 <Alberth> not so long ago, RPN was considered sane for a calculator :p
20:24:20 <SmatZ> @calc 99999999999999999999999999999999-1
20:24:20 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 100000000000000005366162204393472
20:24:57 <DorpsGek> TheExile: 3.14159265359
20:25:18 <DorpsGek> PeterT: Error: float division
20:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause> go get a room...
20:25:53 <TheExile> . /invite DorpsGek #hotelroom
20:25:55 <Eddi|zuHause> no, really, you can talk to the bot in private
20:26:03 <Alberth> everybody here has a big calculator in front of him, yet they do calculations here :)
20:27:02 <Alberth> Syntax error: 'nsfw' not a number
20:27:40 <KenjiE20> wait, did you actually try to invite the bot to a hotel room?
20:28:03 <Forked> just print out the code
20:28:41 <Forked> or a flesh light with 16GB usb..
20:28:44 <Forked> ok I'm gonna go afk again
20:28:46 <PeterT> at least there is some conversation
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20:30:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: obviously, it's an identifier...
20:31:19 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: it's actually inside a comment ;)
20:32:05 * Alberth uses old-style C block comments only while parsing urls.
20:33:31 <Alberth> parsing != visiting :p
20:33:46 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: misses a / ;)
20:36:14 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: ah... and I was wondering why it doesn't work ;)
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20:46:36 <KenjiE20> np: Chata - Dango Daikazoku :: Megumeru ~cuckool mix 2007~ [02] <-- while eating a dango, it is most delectable
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20:52:54 <Eddi|zuHause> somehow, none of this makes me say "hm, that sounds delicious"
20:54:10 <Rubidium> if it's related to mochi then it might even be lethal
20:54:55 <KenjiE20> made from the same stuff
20:56:32 <Xaroth> Alberth: you play too much OD :P
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20:58:10 <Alberth> Not at all! I have read Dune twice though in the past, and have seen the movie twice :)
20:58:53 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i mean which one
20:58:55 <Alberth> not sure about the precise title
20:59:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe there were multiple
20:59:14 <Alberth> oh there are more? then probably the first one
20:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember at least two versions
21:00:25 <Eddi|zuHause> one cinema movie and a tv trilogy, i think
21:00:43 <Xaroth> you also have the series Children of Dune
21:00:51 <Xaroth> and there's two versions (at least) of Dune
21:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, there was another trilogy about the children, i remember
21:02:16 <Xaroth> not seen that one yet then
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21:14:47 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18345 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Warn the window that it gets initialized, so it can do some work ahead.
21:16:50 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18346 /trunk/src/company_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Compute size of face part display buttons only once in face window.
21:17:48 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18347 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Compute width of labels in news settings window once.
21:21:10 <Alberth> oh joy, gtk has a new error to emit while you use an application: gtk_form_set_static_gravity: assertion `static_gravity_supported' failed :p
21:27:24 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18348 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Doc: Doxygen fixes, and removal of an old @note.
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21:41:03 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18349 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Fix (r18347): Older compilers want explicit assignments.
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22:18:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r18350 /trunk/src/os/unix/crashlog_unix.cpp: -Codechange: catch SIGILL under unix-like systems as well
22:24:49 <Coco-Banana-Man> *lol* That must be bad luck! xD
22:27:13 <_ln> sounds unbelievable such long bans are legal
22:28:07 <Coco-Banana-Man> sounds even unbelieverable that such bans are legal!
22:28:42 <Coco-Banana-Man> if you don't even need a license to do that
22:28:51 <fjb> An alcoholic in my village got that kind of ban about 25 years ago.
22:29:12 <fjb> Beside that: never trust BILD!
22:29:21 <Coco-Banana-Man> good point! :D
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22:32:53 <fjb> I would trust RTL+ not more than BILD.
22:34:51 <fjb> But that is more about politics, not the daily crime BILD reports about.
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22:47:22 <_ln> but the truth is not always as interesting as stories
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22:56:55 <fjb> But what do made up stories in a "newspaper" tell you?
22:58:53 <_ln> Nothing. Just one type of fiction.
23:00:42 <fjb> Better read a good book. There is even better porn in the net than the nude girl in BILD.
23:04:04 <_ln> I'm currently reading Frank Herbert's Dune, but haven't spotted any nudity in it yet.
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23:08:53 <fjb> A good book + porn from the net is more than BILD++.
23:09:59 <Coco-Banana-Man> [00:04:15] <_ln> I'm currently reading Frank Herbert's Dune, but haven't spotted any nudity in it yet. <--- Is that a novel? If yes, then it's really the wrong place for porn. So is a newspaper.
23:10:27 <fjb> I would not call BILD a newspaper.
23:11:09 <Coco-Banana-Man> I think it is. But a really bad one.
23:11:25 <_ln> Coco-Banana-Man: Yes, it is a novel and doesn't have any kind of images in it, so finding porn there would be quite surprising.
23:13:27 <fjb> German law counts even the written word as porn not only pictures.
23:13:33 <Coco-Banana-Man> [00:09:04] <fjb> A good book + porn from the net is more than BILD++. <--- Then I'm sharing fjb's opinion ;)
23:21:22 <_ln> fjb: Do you have age limits for books in libraries?
23:23:14 <fjb> Good question, I have not been at a public library for ages. But I think we have.
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