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00:44:14  <Sacro> Anyone know who runs the Speedy goal serverS?

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01:08:11  <Mickster04> any goal server admins about? like the points scoring system. i would like to ask for help:/

01:10:39  <Sacro> Mickster04: oi, that's my question :P

01:10:56  <Mickster04> lol

01:11:24  <Sacro> actually, where are all the devs...

01:12:46  <Mickster04> anyone?

01:12:49  <Chruker> sleeping?

01:12:55  <Mickster04> there are 100 ppl online an noone is talkin:p

01:13:03  <Mickster04> its only 1:13

01:13:05  <Mickster04> am

01:13:23  <Sacro> Nah

01:13:43  <Sacro> I'm also noicing the lack of old skool devs :(

01:13:56  <Mickster04> im watchin some bug program with the delightful voce of david atenborough

01:14:03  <Chruker> I dont recall much chatter about goal server

01:14:06  <Mickster04> :(

01:14:18  <Mickster04> well i wanna set one up an would love any help anyone can give

01:15:45  <Mickster04> i wouldnt know where to stat see

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01:16:28  <Chruker> The goal server thingy is still some extra patch, right?  Ie. not a part of the openttd pacakage (yet)

01:16:34  <Mickster04> start*

01:16:37  <Mickster04> yeah

01:16:43  <Sacro> Yeah

01:16:47  <Sacro> but can't find any source code

01:16:48  <Sacro> nor binaries

01:16:57  <Mickster04> i dunno where to look for either

01:17:05  <Mickster04> sacro u on wave?

01:17:12  <Mickster04> wanna make one from scratch?

01:17:27  <Sacro> i amon wave

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01:17:33  <Mickster04> i should have u then

01:17:34  <Sacro> and not really no

01:17:40  <Mickster04> :S

01:17:44  <Sacro> Yes, there's a freeside wave i'm in

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01:18:14  <Mickster04> yeah ill have u then but nm

01:18:51  <Sacro> well i'd rather hack onto an existing noe

01:18:52  <Sacro> *one

01:18:55  <Mickster04> yeah

01:19:01  <Mickster04> i know

01:19:18  <Mickster04> but i woudnt know what to do about getting hold of even an old one

01:19:26  <Sacro> hmm

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01:22:02  <Mickster04> shame openttd doesnt give you more help on the wiki

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01:25:03  <Mickster04> Sacro, http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autopilot

01:26:02  <Chruker> mickster, I just search through my IRC logs for the channel and it looks like all the goal servers are using there own homemade code, and the few projects that have existed either died or havent released any patches.

01:26:34  <Mickster04> Chruker, do you know if any of the goal servers' admins are talkative?

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01:27:36  <Chruker> I dont know, but you could always try and contact some of those that run 0.7x goal servers.

01:27:42  <Mickster04> ok

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01:32:21  <Sacro> Mickster04: i'm aware of that

01:32:37  <Mickster04> ok just checking

01:32:40  <Sacro> i'm friends with the guy who wrote it and an admin on his server :p

01:32:44  <Mickster04> have u looked into it?

01:33:17  <Sacro> not code wise

01:33:26  <Sacro> tcl isn't something i've ever done

01:36:12  <Mickster04> ok

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01:44:37  <Mickster04> right im off

01:44:38  <Mickster04> tara

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10:54:46  <fonsinchen> I have found an Engine with e->info.load_amount == 0 in a save game. Is this valid? I mean, it will load/unload indefinitely if it has wagons accepting cargo ...

10:55:50  <fonsinchen> It could also stem from the user changing the grfs during the game, but I'd like to be sure about the theoretical validity of this setup.

10:56:25  <glx> check the gamelog

10:57:35  <fonsinchen> I know he has changed the grfs

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10:57:52  <Eddi|zuHause> if this is the loading speed, why is it called "load_amount"?

10:57:52  <fonsinchen> but could one create a grf with load_amout == 0 and would that be valid?

10:59:00  <fonsinchen> Eddi|zuHause: amount loaded per loading turn

10:59:45  <Eddi|zuHause> fonsinchen: yes, but an uninformed person reading this variable name would think it's the total amount

11:00:13  <fonsinchen> At the moment cargodist crashes if load_amount == 0 and if that's indeed valid I have to introduce a special case.

11:00:34  <Eddi|zuHause> it's not exactly unambiguous naming

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11:03:50  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but it's the same name in the specs, as such it's less ambiguous than when using a random other name

11:05:39  <Rubidium> fonsinchen: theoretically load_amount == 0 is valid for all vehicle without a capacity

11:05:53  <fonsinchen> OK, thanks

11:06:28  <Rubidium> but load_amount == 0 for vehicle with a capacity (and thus a cargo) is extremely stupid

11:07:47  <Rubidium> on the other hand, if the load_amount == 0 is caused by messing with NewGRFs then it's "their fault"

11:29:49  <fonsinchen> it's stupid, but it shouldn't crash the game

11:32:29  <Rubidium> there are so many stupid things that can crash the game if the game isn't used properly

11:32:39  <fonsinchen> one might even envision a use for that kind of thing: special trains to block platforms in a station.

11:32:41  <Rubidium> broken NewGRFs are in that category

11:34:59  <fonsinchen> Anyway, the new check for "done unloading" is simpler and easier to read. And it covers the special case of load_amount == 0.

11:35:04  <fonsinchen> So I'll keep it.

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11:37:44  <fonsinchen> http://paste.openttd.org/218239 - requires reservation, though.

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11:59:14  <fonsinchen> ... and trunk has a different mechanism for finding out about "done unloading" anyway.

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14:03:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18196 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the performance rating details window big font and RTL aware

14:08:46  <Belugas> hallo

14:16:13  <planetmaker> salut Belugas :-)

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14:31:14  <Eddi|zuHause> *peng*

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14:42:19  <Belugas> salut planetmaker :)

14:42:23  <Belugas> peng to you too Eddi|zuHause

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14:53:07  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18197 /trunk/src/settings_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the advanced settings window RTL aware and more big font aware

14:53:49  <Eddi|zuHause> what's up with the obsession with TV channels in the commit messages?

14:54:18  * Prof_Frink makes Eddi|zuHause Dave-aware

14:55:22  <Eddi|zuHause> what's a dave?

14:55:41  <Prof_Frink> Dave is a TV channel.

14:56:02  <Eddi|zuHause> not around here...

15:04:31  <Prof_Frink> RTL ain't a TV channel 'round here.

15:05:31  <Rubidium> where's your 'here'?

15:05:39  <Prof_Frink> Here.

15:06:17  <petern> Over there

15:07:43  <Rubidium> in the United Kingdom it's called Five(r)

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16:01:43  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18198 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the AI configuration window RTL aware

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16:59:38  <Terkhen> hello

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17:37:01  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18199 /trunk/src/ (47 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: make the company view window RTL aware and somewhat big font aware

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18:45:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18200 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)

18:45:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

18:45:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_

18:45:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: french - 2 changes by glx

18:45:41  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker

18:45:43  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hebrew - 17 changes by dnd_man

18:45:43  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by alyr

19:03:30  <Sacro> wtf

19:03:38  <Sacro> with jack do i have to build my own sound setup

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20:10:19  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r18201 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange (r18092): No need anymore for initializing nested widgets for Widget* arrays.

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22:00:40  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18202 /trunk/src/order_base.h: -Codechange: remove an unused function

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22:19:24  <Belugas> hasta somewhen all

22:24:34  <Eddi|zuHause> hasta luego Belugas

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22:38:58  <Nite_Owl> Hello all

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22:40:13  <Luukland> Goodevenin'

22:40:59  <Nite_Owl> Hello Luukland

22:45:28  <Luukland> Hellow Mr. Nite_Owl

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