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01:37:12  <Belugas> mmmh

01:37:18  <Belugas> later then i though

01:37:25  <Belugas> than

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03:01:52  <mickster04> hey can anyone help me set up a goal server?

03:01:58  <mickster04> i cant see how to do it in any manual

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03:51:27  <mickster04> does anyone have a points system goal server set up that i could at least look at? code wise?

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10:04:14  <bartavelle> hello

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10:31:26  <petern> hmm, FIRS seems to have way too many industries and cargos to be fun

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10:32:55  <JVassie> really?

10:35:19  <petern> i started a map with low towns and low industries and it's still chock full of industries

10:35:52  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, ECS has a similar problem

10:36:09  <petern> and thus it's hard to get into

10:36:18  <petern> you have to look at a ton of industries to know what goes where

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10:43:16  <JVassie> I havent tried it yet

10:43:19  <JVassie> probably should

10:44:47  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18178 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Let NewGRF Add window's text filter expand.

10:49:00  <Eddi|zuHause> how about making this filter persistent?

10:50:33  <petern> provide a patch? ;)

10:51:37  <Eddi|zuHause> there's an "improved newgrf window" patch for ages...

10:52:03  <Eddi|zuHause> adding newgrfs is such a hassle...

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10:56:17  <petern> well fix the patch for nested widgets? ;)

10:56:27  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18179 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the town authority window RTL aware

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11:10:44  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18180 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the news history window RTL aware

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12:09:25  <fonsinchen> I guess this one is a bug: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=120215

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12:20:12  <JVassie> andythenorth, you there? :)

12:21:39  <andythenorth> hi

12:21:48  <JVassie> hey

12:21:57  <JVassie> i presume you probably know the answer to this

12:22:05  <JVassie> but which sets are currently FIRS compatible?

12:22:09  <JVassie> NARS? PJ1K?

12:22:29  <andythenorth> NARS yes

12:22:33  <andythenorth> PJ1K tes

12:22:34  <andythenorth> yes

12:22:39  <JVassie> perfect thnx

12:22:39  <andythenorth> 2CC Trainset

12:22:49  <andythenorth> canset 3 will be

12:22:52  <andythenorth> canset 3 is partially

12:22:54  <JVassie> ooh lovely

12:22:57  <andythenorth> canset 2 sorry

12:22:59  <andythenorth> us set partially

12:23:17  <andythenorth> using us set + canset together gets support for most cargos, but not all :|

12:23:25  <andythenorth> there is good ship support ;)

12:23:31  <JVassie> :p

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12:28:15  <JVassie> EO1: Incompatible Set

12:28:16  <JVassie> :/

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13:54:09  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18181 /trunk/src/ (strings.cpp table/control_codes.h table/strgen_tables.h): -Add: the concept of zero filled numbers to strgen

13:56:24  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18182 /trunk/src/ (52 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: use the zero fill control code instead of duplicating strings with 'only' the 0 differing

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14:08:36  <Belugas> hello

14:09:59  <TheExile> Hi

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15:45:21  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18183 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the NewGRF window RTL aware

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16:27:29  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: glx * r18184 /trunk/src/os/windows/ (crashlog_win.cpp ottdres.rc.in): -Codechange: add crash screenshot for win32

16:33:23  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18185 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: the up/down buttons had the wrong logical ordering with RTL. Also one of the tooltips was incorrect.

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17:39:32  <DJNekkid> guys ... what is the purpose of action0 property 12 ? (for trains, and it's siblings in other vehicles)

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17:49:04  <welshdragon> If anybody wants an ubuntu 9.10/kubuntu 9.10/ubuntu server 9.10 disk straight from Canonical please email me: mark@welshdragon.headweb.co.uk

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17:56:16  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18186 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Add: a widgets for left/right arrows with the ability to turn themselves around when a RTL language is loaded

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17:57:38  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18187 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: make the advanced face selection, custom currency, difficulty, news settings, signal, sign and vehicle details window RTL aware (use the arrow widget)

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18:01:37  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18188 /trunk/src/ (order_gui.cpp widget.cpp widget_type.h widgets/dropdown.cpp): -Codechange: s/NWID_BUTTON_DRPDOWN/NWID_BUTTON_DROPDOWN/g

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18:08:24  <Eddi|zuHause> you added a redundant letter!! why does nobody ever think of the entropy!!

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18:08:50  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18189 /trunk/src/ (55 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: remove some now unneeded strings

18:09:30  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHase: what is redundant?

18:11:00  <Eddi|zuHause> "natural languages" have a great deal of redundancy. "everybody" [who remotely knows the language] can derive from "drpdown" that there's an 'o' to insert

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18:11:46  <Eddi|zuHause> many languages (from ancient egyption to modern arabic) don't write down vowels at all

18:12:16  <Wolf01> evening :D

18:12:29  <Eddi|zuHause> it's a Wlf!

18:12:41  <frosch123> ddzhas: k :)

18:13:17  <frosch123> oh, i failed :(

18:13:25  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you did ;)

18:13:52  <Eddi|zuHause> this is a corner case anyway, as it's more difficult if you leave out the vowels AND the word separators...

18:15:29  <Eddi|zuHause> plus, it doesn't work as well, the higher the ratio of vowels in the language is

18:15:34  <Rubidium> jhvhstthdr <- whtdsthtmn?

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18:15:58  <Wolf01> today was a good day to die

18:16:10  <Eddi|zuHause> and we missed it!!

18:16:28  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i can only figure out "what does that mean?"

18:17:40  <Rubidium> so vowels aren't that useless after all, though... maybe I should add spaces

18:17:48  <frosch123> Did you mean: yhwh tthdr

18:18:03  <Rubidium>  jhvh s t th dr

18:18:07  <Rubidium> frosch123: nope :)

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18:19:59  <Wolf01> somebody *again* knocked my car with his car doors, I parked my car in the middle of the parking area... today is the day we have street market so the area would have been filled with cars about 30 minutes after I parked there :P

18:20:00  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: it's mostly that you are not used to reading that way... it would make perfectly sense if that was how it's done for centuries

18:21:04  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: there are a few ambiguous cases, that need a little time to resolve

18:21:27  <Eddi|zuHause> especially since english has a lot of monosyllable words

18:21:32  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: "a jehovah is at the door"

18:22:27  <Eddi|zuHause> well, technically, that'd be a jehovah's witness ;)

18:23:01  <Eddi|zuHause> and depending on your interpretation, "j" would be a vowel, too ;)

18:23:54  <Rubidium> no..., not the witnesses of a jehovah, the jehovah itself... if that exists, but I assume it does because otherwise you can't be of said entity

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18:26:33  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: maybe you remember that scene of stargate [movie] where daniel jackson tries to figure out the egyptian writing at the other planet, and the woman corrects his pronunciation by filling in different vowels

18:27:10  <Rubidium> vaguely

18:29:47  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, vowels are very redundant parts of the average language, especially if they are inbetween two consonants

18:29:57  <frosch123> actually google was right with "yhwh", just different transcription

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18:45:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18190 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt french.txt serbian.txt spanish.txt):

18:45:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:

18:45:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: catalan - 3 changes by arnau

18:45:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by glx

18:45:32  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: serbian - 2 changes by etran

18:45:34  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: spanish - 1 changes by Terkhen

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19:01:05  <Wolf01> bye

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19:02:49  <Hirundo> MSVC complains about r18173: c:\program files\openttd\is\src\smallmap_gui.cpp(955) : warning C4146: unary minus operator applied to unsigned type, result still unsigned

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19:32:29  <petern> GREAT GIGS

19:32:31  <petern> IN THE SKY

19:38:59  <Eddi|zuHause> gnarf... a filling just dropped out...

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20:34:07  <Nite_Owl> Hello all

20:34:39  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18191 /extra/ottd_grf/split/ (openttdgui.nfo openttdgui.pcx): [OTTD_GRF] -Codechange: add an mirrored 'play' button for the RTL interface

20:34:56  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18192 /trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: make the music window RTL aware

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21:07:40  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18193 /trunk/src/cheat_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the cheat window RTL aware

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21:21:52  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18194 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the AI 'config' window RTL aware

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21:53:59  <Markk> Is there any swedes around? Or danish/norwegians?

21:55:07  <Markk> I try to translate "Branch line" and "sidings", but "sidings" is "Stickspr" and "branch line" I haven't found any good translation for. Any idea?

21:55:08  <_ln> *Are there

21:55:14  <Markk> Thanks :)

21:55:20  <_ln> you're welcome

21:56:36  <frosch123> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Trains <- hmm, does everyone understand "set to zero" as imperative? i.e. that the grfauthor should set it to zero, not ottd/ttdp

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22:11:47  <Rubidium> s/set to/must be/ might make it clearer

22:13:02  <planetmaker> indeed

22:13:35  <frosch123> hmm, ok, i take "should be"

22:13:42  <Belugas> zhome

22:13:44  <Belugas> znight

22:14:05  <frosch123> currently they are ignore, but maybe that won't stay forever and then zero would keep the stuff compatible

22:14:24  <frosch123> byez Belugas

22:15:07  <planetmaker> ciao Belugas

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22:28:58  <frosch123> night

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22:49:27  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18195 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp settings_gui.cpp widget.cpp window_gui.h):

22:49:27  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Codechange: move the child padding calculation/handling to WWT_FRAME

22:49:27  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Fix (r18168): crash when switching languages when a non-standard font height is used

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