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05:15:12 <_ln> English prevails!
05:16:04 <Forked> Greetings
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05:30:12 <Tefad> Salutations
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10:17:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16309 /branches/0.7/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
10:17:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:
10:17:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Unable to (re)set the desert state for watery tiles [FS#2888] (r16290)
10:17:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Possible (in theory) desync related to autorenew settings (r16287)
10:17:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash after using the 'Reset landscape' function and remove all waypoint signs and buoys after resetting landscape (r16280)
10:17:15 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Disable multitile houses for which the newgrf does not define proper additional tiles (r16274)
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10:24:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16310 /branches/0.7/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
10:24:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk:
10:24:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Parameter is invalid when it is equal to length of an array (r16308)
10:24:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Close all windows before unloading the AI system as closing the content-download window will rescan for AIs [FS#2901] (r16306)
10:24:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: ICC (Intel C++ Compiler) defined __GNUC__ but does not define __builtin_bswap32, so fall back to the default swap method for ICC (r16295)
10:24:27 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Road vehicles were unable to find a depot when turning around (in some cases), causing 'nearest depot' orders to be occasionally lost [FS#2893] (r16291
10:25:42 * Chruker wonders when the vehicles will get GPS :-)
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10:38:24 <Rupr|essen> heya
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10:38:41 <Ruprecht> i have some trouble with my industries
10:39:01 <Ruprecht> only bank, tourist center and factory are present
10:39:41 <Ruprecht> the others have somehow disappeared, in the scenario editor aswell in the game itself
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11:09:03 <planetmaker> Ruprecht, possibly you've loaded a funny combination of newgrf. e.g. only ecs town vector
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12:21:46 <z-MaTRiX> hey
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12:49:47 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=789163#p789163 <- hehehe
12:49:55 <dihedral> "isn't it too large" :_D
12:49:59 <dihedral> they all are :-P
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12:53:49 <z-MaTRiX> jej
12:53:58 <z-MaTRiX> well
12:54:14 <z-MaTRiX> they used to be 120meters in height max
12:54:54 <z-MaTRiX> and are thin as the top
12:57:35 <z-MaTRiX> http://www.vias.org/wirelessnetw/wndw_09_04.html
13:01:08 <frosch123> hint: you should stop that discussion very quickly :)
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13:02:17 <planetmaker> haha :)
13:02:27 <planetmaker> frosch123, the topic doesn't forbid anymore. :P
13:02:57 <planetmaker> But I guess that's only in order to get a certain person more opportunities for stress relieve :P
13:04:54 <Belugas> hello
13:05:04 <Belugas> me?
13:05:11 <Belugas> kick kick kick kick!~!!
13:06:28 <planetmaker> hello Belugas :)
13:07:15 <z-MaTRiX> hahah
13:07:22 <z-MaTRiX> btw http://skyscrapers-structures-and-architect.blogspot.com/2007/04/unequal-tower-twins.html
13:07:39 <z-MaTRiX> and tall thin things secured with steel ropes
13:08:00 <welshdragon> http://pastebin.freeside.co.uk/11817 < anybody know why i got this crash (i was usong a trunk savegame with IS beta
13:09:21 <frosch123> Removed NewGRF: 52571302 <- you miss some grf
13:09:47 <welshdragon> oh, the openterrain
13:09:56 <welshdragon> bugger
13:10:00 <welshdragon> need to find that
13:10:06 <frosch123> terrain? that should not matter
13:11:15 <welshdragon> opengfx newterraoin is missing
13:12:23 <frosch123> Removed NewGRF: 44440602, filename: newgrf\pikkindw.grf <- well, I guess noone will offer support for that savegame :)
13:12:44 <welshdragon> oh, right
13:14:42 <welshdragon> weird
13:17:07 <petern> hey Belugas, have any guitar fun last night?
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13:29:12 <welshdragon> can i get a company in slot 2 moved to slot 1?
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13:31:33 <Hirundo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=43595 <- this patch seems pretty nice to me
13:32:39 <z-MaTRiX> weasel, in savedgame?
13:32:49 <z-MaTRiX> welshdragon, in savedgame?
13:33:03 <welshdragon> z-MaTRiX, yah
13:33:13 <z-MaTRiX> was thinking the same thing
13:33:18 <weasel> grr.
13:33:26 <welshdragon> poor weasel
13:33:34 <z-MaTRiX> yeah ;>
13:33:56 <z-MaTRiX> but was autoreplacing 2 letters
13:34:10 <Belugas> petern, yes indeed :)
13:34:16 <z-MaTRiX> weasel, anyway, easiest is the cheat menu
13:34:19 <Belugas> full of mogwai!
13:34:31 <Belugas> a few self-buzzed-rifts too
13:34:33 <z-MaTRiX> welshdragon, anyway, easiest is the cheat menu
13:34:48 <Belugas> i was watching TV, and was just... playing randomly
13:34:53 <Belugas> and you petern?
13:35:06 <petern> well i slept well
13:35:18 <welshdragon> z-MaTRiX, i don't think you understand
13:35:33 <welshdragon> i want my company which is in slot 2 to occupy slot 1
13:35:36 <z-MaTRiX> you can switch com,pany with cheat menu
13:35:45 <welshdragon> i know that
13:35:56 <glx> you can edit the values in memory/savegame
13:36:05 <z-MaTRiX> įm sure they can be swapped havent tried though
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13:43:31 <Belugas> petern, monday, i'll be at home, holiday. Maybe we'll be able to catch up :)
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15:07:00 <HackaLittleBit> hello
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15:24:20 <HackaLittleBit> Can someone help me please, when I change a language file like "english.txt" I get message "N0 available language packs (invalid versions?)" after compiling
15:25:16 <HackaLittleBit> after compiling and when I start up the exe
15:27:24 <HackaLittleBit> It is posible that I messed up my svn
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15:27:53 <HackaLittleBit> I installed tortoise svn 1.6.2
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15:28:56 <HackaLittleBit> then I got message that versions weere not compatble so I uninstalled tortoise svn
15:29:26 <HackaLittleBit> I downloaded a clean trunk
15:29:44 <HackaLittleBit> restarted computer
15:30:07 <HackaLittleBit> installed tortoise 1.5.5
15:30:14 <HackaLittleBit> restarted
15:30:34 <HackaLittleBit> after this no problems no messagfes
15:30:55 <HackaLittleBit> only last issue persists :(
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15:32:09 <frosch123> err, what is the problem now?
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15:33:30 <HackaLittleBit> just when I add new var in language file I get message "N0 available language packs (invalid versions?)" after compiling
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15:34:02 <frosch123> and did it also compile the language files, or only the source?
15:35:20 <HackaLittleBit> Hold on frosch realy going to check that
15:36:49 <HackaLittleBit> comiled file is "english.lng"?
15:37:09 <HackaLittleBit> if so yes that was generated
15:37:44 <frosch123> maybe delete all *.lng,
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16:00:56 <HackaLittleBit> changed line 1428 in if (language_count == 0) usererror(path);
16:01:28 <jonty-comp> ooh, window shading
16:01:40 <jonty-comp> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=43595
16:01:42 <jonty-comp> trunk pls
16:02:41 <HackaLittleBit> amazing when I change that language file the path changes
16:05:00 <HackaLittleBit> frosch the path where he is looking is D:\My Documents\OpenTTD\content_download ???
16:05:11 <HackaLittleBit> sorry D:\My Documents\OpenTTD\content_download\lang
16:05:17 <frosch123> no idea
16:05:43 <HackaLittleBit> thanks
16:05:51 <HackaLittleBit> anyhow
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16:07:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16311 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Fix: (Get|Set)TrackBits() is only valid for RAIL_TILE_NORMAL and _SIGNALS.
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16:14:59 <fjb> It would be great if the the wagon removal setting would be group dependent.
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16:24:13 <Belugas> pffff... almost 2 hours of payment processing discussions
16:24:31 <Belugas> head hurts
16:27:17 <|Jeroen|> grab yourself a drink
16:27:51 <Belugas> yeah
16:27:53 <Belugas> beer
16:27:56 <Belugas> good idea
16:28:00 <Belugas> while working
16:28:02 <Belugas> youhouy!!!
16:28:17 <|Jeroen|> why not
16:28:22 <Belugas> by the way, today, we'll celebrate my tenth year in the company
16:28:40 <Belugas> why not? 'cuase they'l be even more bugs than there are now!
16:29:12 <|Jeroen|> nah, a couple of pints won't generate that many more bugs
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16:30:14 <Belugas> ya don't know me...
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16:32:53 <z-MaTRiX> hi
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16:38:22 <HackaLittleBit> frosch123: line 1400 in strings.cpp tells me that my version is not ok. This never happened or is this new
16:39:08 <HackaLittleBit> line 1401 :)
16:41:05 <HackaLittleBit> comming from GetLanguageList on line 1426
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16:43:18 <frosch123> it searches LANG_DIR, no idea where that is for windows reps. your configuration :)
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16:51:05 <HackaLittleBit> No the program rejects the language file version. Don't know why yet.
16:52:35 <HackaLittleBit> if i delete line 1403 I can play the game (more or less)
16:53:07 <HackaLittleBit> 1403 " continue;"
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16:57:14 <Alberth> HackaLittleBit: it may be a case of build dependencies handled badly. Does a make clean ; make fix it?
17:01:33 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: I downloaded a clean copy of trunk in new directory, aplied my patch, ./configure, make
17:01:46 <HackaLittleBit> evreything ok
17:02:13 <HackaLittleBit> reversed (took out patch) and compiled again
17:02:34 <HackaLittleBit> go message like above
17:03:12 <HackaLittleBit> now i am not 100% shure but I think I did indead meke clean make
17:03:31 <HackaLittleBit> It worked again
17:03:53 <HackaLittleBit> Then I aplied patch , compiled and got message agian
17:04:01 <HackaLittleBit> Going nuts :(
17:04:16 * Alberth is trying some builds too
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17:07:05 <HackaLittleBit> But I am 100% shure he jumps out at line 1401, 1402 , Itested that, so he finds the file but somewhere does not swallow the version
17:08:03 <HackaLittleBit> going now to do make clean make with patch aplied, see you in 5 min
17:09:59 <Alberth> HackaLittleBit: make mrproper also kills the configure settings
17:10:55 <HackaLittleBit> ok
17:11:22 <petern> are you sure you're shure?
17:11:24 <Alberth> what patch are you applying?
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17:12:36 <HackaLittleBit> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=110932
17:13:28 <Alberth> petern: http://paste.openttd.org/182832 enough proof?
17:13:59 <HackaLittleBit> lol
17:14:04 <frosch123> completely shore is already in trunk
17:14:34 <petern> proof of what?
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17:15:38 <HackaLittleBit> for the record: did make clean, make mrproper, make
17:16:22 <HackaLittleBit> and before that I aplied patch
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17:16:55 <Sacro> whoo mrproper
17:16:59 <Sacro> i love that guy
17:17:16 <frosch123> @seen someone
17:17:16 <DorpsGek> frosch123: someone was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 15 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 24 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: * Someone here is gay
17:18:47 <Sacro> hehe
17:19:52 <SmatZ> hehe
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17:28:56 <HackaLittleBit> YAYA it works! :) , now I'am going to revert to trunk
17:29:28 <Alberth> you like to live at the edge :)
17:30:13 <HackaLittleBit> hehehe
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17:31:25 <HackaLittleBit> did make and got message again, damned
17:32:19 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16312 /trunk/src/yapf/yapf_rail.cpp: -Codechange: unduplicate yapf (rail) cache debugging.
17:36:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16313 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: also pass the minimum MacOSX version and some other binary type dependend flags to g++ to get the defines for (make)depend
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17:38:14 <Alberth> It rebuilds language files here when I switch between patched and non-patched trunk here
17:40:10 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: did again mrproper and make and things work again.
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17:41:55 <Alberth> that should be the case, mrproper kills all configuration (like you download a fresh trunk)
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17:43:16 <Alberth> I can switch between patched and non-patched with just 'make'. It runs just fine. Do you use 16307 where the make dependies generation gets fixed?
17:44:02 <z-MaTRiX> can OpenTTD support quad-core cpu?
17:44:14 <Sacro> z-MaTRiX: it'll run on it, only using one core though
17:44:32 <z-MaTRiX> thinkink about using all cores
17:44:43 <Alberth> z-MaTRiX: good luck
17:45:02 <z-MaTRiX> i see so not implemented yet ;>
17:45:29 <planetmaker> search the forums why not
17:46:08 <Alberth> z-MaTRiX: the big shared data-storage called 'game map' is why not
17:48:21 <z-MaTRiX> found some http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=37064&sid=d224ea2de15dad4657c3af5851d994a7
17:49:33 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: I' am using 16308
17:50:35 <HackaLittleBit> I tried to delete the language ".lng" files by hand
17:51:35 <z-MaTRiX> just can't imagine why would multiple-core usage would cause desync in multiplayer
17:51:39 <planetmaker> should be a sound summary, z-MaTRiX
17:51:59 <z-MaTRiX> as Yexo (developer) said
17:52:04 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: I would like to simulate mrproper only for language files
17:52:11 <planetmaker> z-MaTRiX: all clients have to have the same game information at all times. Each step has to be done in a well-defined order
17:52:55 <z-MaTRiX> that's ok, but multiple cores only makes things parallel
17:53:02 <Yexo> z-MaTRiX: suppose OpenTTD was a calculator program that had two task: 1) Add 1 to the input number. 2) Multiply the number by 2
17:53:26 <Yexo> take 3 as example input. Without dual-core support, it'll add 1 (=4), then multiply by 2 (=8)
17:53:50 <Yexo> with dual-core support it'll do task 1 and 2 in any order, possibly resulitng in (3*2)+1 (=7)
17:54:04 <Yexo> now if one client has 8 as result, and another one 7, you have a desync
17:54:30 <Yexo> solution to this: Make sure that parts of the code that use the same data never run parallel
17:54:49 <Yexo> problem with that is that nearly all code uses the map. Effect: You're back without dual-core support
17:55:30 <Alberth> HackaLittleBit: should not be needed, deciding that you need to rebuild the language files is the job of the build-dependencies.
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17:56:32 <z-MaTRiX> i see
17:56:34 <Alberth> HackaLittleBit: try make mrproper, then ./configure, then make. after that you should only need 'make' (at least that is how it seems to work here)
17:58:22 <z-MaTRiX> so then graphics rendering might use a core
17:58:26 <z-MaTRiX> that's for sure
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17:59:23 <Aali> how do you know what to render? you look at the map array
17:59:42 <Aali> and we're back to square one
17:59:45 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: I will do it again, but I will give you other detail: when I change string value ,everything ok. adding extra var things wrong
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18:18:12 <HackaLittleBit> Alberth: I'll come back , dinner time , I think I manually delete the makefile in lang dir, do ./configure and see what happens when I do make
18:18:29 <Alberth> k
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18:54:25 <Alberth> HackaLittleBit: I just sent you a PM with some build output so you can compare it with your results
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21:12:57 <Nite_Owl> Hello all
21:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe HackaLittleBit
21:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> 's makedepend screws up on strings.h?
21:18:37 <HackaLittleBit> thanks eddi
21:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you could check out a version before the new makedepend, and try if it works there
21:28:25 <HackaLittleBit> eddi: everything works fine until I change a variable in language file, from that moment on I get "N0 available language packs (invalid versions?)"
21:28:43 <glx> what variable?
21:28:56 <glx> there's no variable in languages
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21:30:56 <HackaLittleBit> STR_ERROR_FLAT_LAND_REQUIREDQQQQQQQQQ :{WHITE}Flat land required
21:31:25 <HackaLittleBit> when i add something like that I have a problem
21:32:18 <HackaLittleBit> strings.cpp line 1428
21:33:19 <glx> can I see your diff to test?
21:33:38 <HackaLittleBit> in proc GetLanguageList line 1401
21:34:05 <HackaLittleBit> hold on ill send it by pm
21:34:26 <HackaLittleBit> on my post allready out dated
21:40:04 <HackaLittleBit> glx: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=110981
21:40:42 <HackaLittleBit> glx: Alberth has been looking at this one allready
21:43:31 <Eddi|zuHause> really, i think it's the build system, and has nothing to do with the patch
21:44:14 <Eddi|zuHause> the build system has changed in the past few days, so i asked to check a revision before that change
21:44:41 <glx> before it used makedepend (which failed everytime)
21:45:41 <Eddi|zuHause> and i also think the trouble is strings.h, not the .lng files
21:46:07 <glx> strings.h generation doesn't depend on dependencies
21:46:39 <Eddi|zuHause> but maybe strings.cpp doesn't trigger on strings.h dependency=
21:46:52 <Eddi|zuHause> s/=/?/
21:47:35 <glx> strings.o: /d/developpement/ottd/trunk2/objs/lang/table/strings.h <-- for me it is :)
21:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause> HackaLittleBit: can you try removing strings.o before recompiling?
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21:50:30 <Belugas> youhou!!
21:50:33 <HackaLittleBit> evenin pikka
21:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> (somewhere in objs/release or something)
21:50:53 <HackaLittleBit> hold on eddi
21:52:00 <glx> applied your patch, compile, run, reverted, compile, run
21:52:08 <Pikka> gentlemen...
21:52:13 <glx> works as it should
21:52:48 <HackaLittleBit> so I should install everything from scratch?
21:53:02 <Nite_Owl> Hello Pikka
21:53:13 <frosch123> HackaLittleBit: you can also try "./configure --disable-builtin-depend --without-makedepend"
21:53:38 <glx> --disable-builtin-depend is enough ;)
21:54:56 <frosch123> well, who knows :) it works for everyone else
21:55:00 <HackaLittleBit> Oh well its running allready :)
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22:02:20 <welshdragon> bananas doesn't work on ubuntu linux?
22:02:41 <glx> it should work
22:03:12 <welshdragon> Could not connect to the content server
22:04:01 <Eddi|zuHause> then you have a firewall
22:04:20 <welshdragon> there is no firewall
22:04:24 <welshdragon> i'm at Sacro's
22:04:46 <Sacro> works on my desktop
22:04:56 <welshdragon> doesn't work on my netbook
22:05:27 <Eddi|zuHause> then it's Sacro's fault... any questions?
22:06:01 * Sacro blames it on the germanns
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22:24:49 <HackaLittleBit> hmmm , ok thanks everybody I can live with this situaton , now it is time for some pool and a beer or two
22:25:07 <HackaLittleBit> three
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22:27:31 <HackaLittleBit> gnight
22:27:52 <Nite_Owl> later HackaLittleBit
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22:45:57 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16314 /trunk/src/newgrf_house.cpp: -Fix (r9315): Allow accessing the houseage when the house is not yet built.
22:46:50 <frosch123> Pikka: when someone complains about "town_map.h:297: Year GetHouseAge(TileIndex): Assertion `IsTileType(t, MP_HOUSE)' failed.", tell him to update to 16314 :)
22:49:50 <Pikka> mmkay :P
22:50:30 <Pikka> I haven't seen that assert myself in 0.7.0, though
22:50:50 <frosch123> because stable disable assertions :)
22:51:54 <frosch123> i guess you access the variable somewhere in the callback-failed chain, so it does actually not matter what the variable does
22:53:11 <Pikka> oh :)
22:53:14 <Pikka> right
22:58:51 <frosch123> the crofts are nice :)
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23:23:59 <Pikka> thanks frosch123 :)
23:24:41 <Pikka> they're really just a quick, get-some-graphics-in job, though :P
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23:25:42 <frosch123> yeah, but i always like doing new stuff with original graphics
23:26:31 <frosch123> (at least they look like original graphics)
23:26:47 <Pikka> yes, they are
23:27:33 <frosch123> the nice thing is, everyone could have done it, but noone had the idea or imagination how to do it :)
23:29:01 <Pikka> :)
23:29:28 <Pikka> I've never actually played a full game with the set yet, I'll be interested in feedback I get regarding how the town growth restriction plays...
23:30:31 <Ammler> Pikka: is it on bananas?
23:30:32 <Pikka> especially since I've removed the town halls (largely because I couldn't be bothered doing the graphics ;)), so there's no immediate identifier of what kind of town each is at the beginning of the game
23:30:35 <Pikka> yes Ammler
23:30:40 <frosch123> hmm, playing... i remember having done somewhat like that
23:32:37 <frosch123> Ammler: you will need HEAD or a build without assertions :)
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23:32:59 <Ammler> :-)
23:33:20 <Ammler> frosch123: or tomorrow nightly?
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23:33:46 <frosch123> i'm living in the present
23:33:55 <Ammler> (our windows guys can't compile)
23:34:11 <frosch123> you can use the stable :)
23:34:32 <frosch123> I guess RC1 uses assertions, not sure though
23:34:51 <Ammler> well, I am thinking about a coop game with.
23:36:08 <Ammler> I won't touch openttd before I have some sleep.
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23:38:33 <frosch123> hehe, there was recently some gui on the forums complaiing about towns only building roads without houses.
23:38:49 <frosch123> tai gives similiar results :)
23:39:11 <frosch123> though it creates a circle of some churches around the town :)
23:39:26 <Ammler> isn't that because houses die?
23:40:15 <Pikka> frosch123: it does that if you put a town down in the scenario editor and grow it up past its maximum size
23:40:38 <Pikka> I'm thinking that in actual gameplay, that's less likely to happen. the mix of buildings will be different. :P
23:40:45 <frosch123> I did just that :)
23:41:25 <Pikka> and it tends to do that much easier with the grid layouts than the others :P
23:42:12 <frosch123> interestingly there are infact people who still build the grid manually
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23:55:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16315 /trunk/src/ (15 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: move the autorenew settings to a new CompanySettings struct
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