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00:01:30  <foe> But that means everybody playing need to have that grf installed?

00:01:40  <Gonozal_VIII> yes

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00:14:01  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12285 /3rdparty/squirrel/ (include/squirrel.h sqstdlib/sqstdstring.cpp): [Squirrel] -Add: added scsnprintf, scfprintf and scvsnprintf

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00:23:07  <Progman> scvsn-printf? the abbrevation is almost longer than the actually function namen

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00:24:08  <glx> the function is vsnprintf or vsnwprintf (depending on _UNICODE)

00:25:11  <glx> and the sc prefix is the squirrel standard

00:25:53  <Progman> scvsnwutf8mbsprintf \o/

00:29:24  <foe> Initial loan also has to be changed through a grf file?

00:29:47  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12286 /branches/noai/src/ (ai/ai_squirrel.hpp squirrel.cpp squirrel.hpp): [NoAI] -Fix (r12277): restore compilation with _UNICODE

00:29:53  <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i don't know if a grf can change that

00:30:07  <glx> no it cannot

00:30:35  <Gonozal_VIII> so you have to change the code for that

00:30:55  <foe> gah

00:35:54  <Gonozal_VIII> i guess you could also change the code to enable grfs to do that^^

00:36:12  <Gonozal_VIII> or something like that..

00:36:22  <foe> Right

00:37:00  <foe> My problem is that the game is too easy. I'd like to set up a hardcore-hardcore server.

00:37:30  <Gonozal_VIII> try vehicle grfs with more expensive purchase and running cost

00:38:03  <foe> That's the problem again, then everybody need those grf's.

00:38:11  <Sacro> "you have made a middle aged man very happy)"

00:38:35  <Gonozal_VIII> sold your body again?

00:38:47  <foe> Are there *any* non-middle-aged men playing openttd? ;)

00:39:15  <Gonozal_VIII> depends on your definition of middle aged...

00:39:43  <Gonozal_VIII> and i've heard rumors about the existance of female players

00:39:51  <foe> Oooo =)

00:39:58  <foe> I almost persuaded one.

00:40:01  <glx> foe: is £100 000 too much ?

00:40:01  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: yes there are

00:40:06  <foe> In my case, middle-aged would mean the age of 32.

00:40:08  <Sacro> i've played with a few

00:40:22  <Sacro> @seen SAC^

00:40:22  <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen SAC^.

00:40:24  <foe> glx: How much is that in DM? 300 000?

00:40:38  <Gonozal_VIII> just because they have a female nick doesn't mean they are female :P

00:41:05  <glx> yes DM 300 000

00:41:18  <foe> Yes, it's too much. I imagine a hardcore game where players are *forced* to start with buses and lorries in order to built a train route.

00:41:25  <Gonozal_VIII> dm? there is something called euro if you haven't noticed^^

00:42:06  <foe> Heh, I noticed. My mother's from Germany so my vacation memories of Germany usually involve DM's :>

00:42:23  <Sacro> deathmatches?

00:42:29  <Gonozal_VIII> mark

00:42:36  <foe> Sacro: I assume

00:42:44  <Gonozal_VIII> german currency

00:42:51  <glx> you can use high interrest rate (4%), low subsidies multiplicator (x1.5), high construction costs

00:43:02  <foe> glx: Still too easy.

00:43:13  <Gonozal_VIII> yep, nothing of that makes it challenging

00:43:19  <glx> with normal vehicle breakdows

00:43:36  <Gonozal_VIII> even mountainious maps are easy with default stuff

00:43:58  <Gonozal_VIII> but grfs can make it a lot harder, you should use them

00:44:01  <glx> high running costs

00:44:10  <glx> and try other climates

00:45:32  <foe> I'm thinking: a guy running a simple train route without synergy, constantly sending empty cars back to the pick-up spot, should go bankrupt. That kind of hard.

00:46:03  <foe> Which would imply about ten minutes of planning and pondering before you settle for a route.

00:46:27  <foe> Most online maps today are more about building than thinking.

00:46:43  <glx> yeah they use too flat maps

00:47:01  <glx> with no water nor anything hard in landscape

00:47:44  <glx> low number of industries and towns can make things harder too

00:47:54  <foe> Exaclty. Makes the game mechanic somehow.

00:47:56  <foe> That's true

00:50:02  <Gonozal_VIII> you can't make the game that hard without grfs or changing the code

00:50:26  <Rubidium> you actually can

00:50:33  <Gonozal_VIII> how?

00:50:58  <Rubidium> just limit the number of road vehicles to about 5-10 and the number of other vehicles to 0, then high running costs etc.

00:51:05  <Gonozal_VIII> ^^

00:51:51  <Gonozal_VIII> ok, that would be hard... but wouldn't make much sense

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00:52:55  <Gonozal_VIII> but you could do rvs/ships only with a reasonable limit

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00:54:06  <Gonozal_VIII> rvs would be more fun with diagonal roads, highways, road signals/waypoints and stuff like that

00:57:08  <Sacro> EARTHQUAKE

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01:01:02  <Gonozal_VIII> what earthquake?

01:01:33  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: the whole fucking city just shook

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01:02:03  <Gonozal_VIII> since when are there earthquakes in gb?

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01:02:22  <Axamentia> I felt it to man

01:02:30  <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: since 00:57 GMT

01:02:34  <Axamentia> I mean my monitor moved

01:02:42  <Sacro> yeah, as did mine

01:02:45  <Sacro> everything fucknig moved

01:02:50  <Toby> We just had an earthquake a few days ago where I live

01:02:57  <Gonozal_VIII> strange

01:03:06  <Axamentia> I thought my building was falling down or something

01:03:30  <Gonozal_VIII> maybe just some nuclear tests in your area :-)

01:04:20  <Axamentia> Lol

01:04:59  <Gonozal_VIII> what's the speed of sound in rock?

01:05:43  <Gonozal_VIII> but i guess i can't notice anything here anyways

01:05:53  <Axamentia> Sacro that was a pretty violent earthquake, well not violent, but heavier than the ones we had a few years back

01:10:32  <Gonozal_VIII> Between 200 and 300 quakes occur in Britain each year, but only about 10% are strong enough to be felt. <-- oh... 20-30 that can be felt... here i didn't notice a single one since i can remember

01:11:15  <Gonozal_VIII> except some vibrations from avalanches...

01:11:37  <Axamentia> Weve had a few minor ones Gonozal, and manchester was hit with ones in 2002 or something

01:11:55  <Gonozal_VIII> yes i just read about that

01:12:03  <Axamentia> But that was heavy i mean, the whole room shook and my monitor actually moved

01:12:29  <Gonozal_VIII> hmm i never experienced an earthquake

01:12:45  <Phantasm> Earthquake "simulator" is nice.

01:14:58  <Eddi|zuHause2> we have had a mine collapsing

01:15:19  <Eddi|zuHause2> but it was at night, and i was too far away to notice anything

01:15:45  <Axamentia> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008nyae.php

01:16:36  <Axamentia> 4.7 on the richter scale

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01:18:33  <Phantasm> Over 10 would be nice. ;P

01:18:42  <Gonozal_VIII> ^^

01:18:54  <Phantasm> 4.7 is still light.

01:18:56  <Gonozal_VIII> i guess i would have noticed that here

01:19:12  <foe> Here you go Sacro: http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ous/STORE/X2008nyae/ciim_form.html

01:19:18  <foe> Tell them your monitor jumped.

01:19:56  <foe> So do you guys use the in-game menu to find multiplayer games or are there better sources?

01:20:09  <Gonozal_VIII> tell them it broke, maybe you can get some insurance money^^

01:20:32  <Gonozal_VIII> i only play with people i know

01:20:44  <foe> They'll probably just send him some silver tape.

01:20:46  <glx> all advertised servers are in the in-game list

01:21:33  <glx> but you can use "private" servers too (not advertised)

01:21:45  <glx> they are not in the list though

01:21:53  <foe> glx: Just a matter of finding them then

01:22:16  <glx> yes you need to know the owner, or someone playing on it

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01:22:36  <foe> In what way can I mod the game and still play online? I'm thinking 32-bit graphics, new train sets a s o.

01:22:53  <Gonozal_VIII> 32 bit stuff is only local

01:23:08  <foe> Modified trains sets aren't?

01:23:16  <glx> 32bpp is just a cosmestic thing

01:23:28  <Gonozal_VIII> can't be, everybody has to use the same trains

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01:23:54  <foe> Yes, and the same visualization of the trains it would seem.

01:24:08  <Gonozal_VIII> i guess you could change that

01:24:19  <glx> you can override train images with 32bpp

01:24:26  <foe> Ooo

01:24:54  <Gonozal_VIII> but only the sprites, no data

01:25:02  <foe> Ok

01:25:21  <foe> Do you guys use any of the 32bpp candy?

01:25:41  <Gonozal_VIII> it slows down the game quite a lot...

01:25:49  <Gonozal_VIII> at least for me

01:26:21  <Phantasm> The highest ever recorded earthquake is 9.5 on Richter scale.

01:28:32  <foe> Seems to me there's this uncoordinated sea of tiny 32bpp files floating around in forum threads. Is there some kind of "big 32bpp experimental show-off package"?

01:29:24  <Gonozal_VIII> wiki

01:29:38  <foe> *checking*

01:30:03  <Gonozal_VIII> tar files.. you don't need to unpack them

01:31:08  <Gonozal_VIII> or something like that... didn't use much 32bpp stuff

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02:50:51  <Belugas> question: you havd an array of struct inside a class. You want a function that returns a pointer to an element of this array.

02:50:58  <Belugas> hoiw would you declare and define it?

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02:55:14  <Eddi|zuHause3> too unspecific question...

02:55:25  <Eddi|zuHause3> but i have a PBS bug

02:55:57  <Eddi|zuHause3> an electric train cannot reserve a path into an electric station, when the continuing track is unelectrified and has no signal

02:58:19  * Belugas does not care about pbs

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04:00:48  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12287 /trunk/src/table/bridge_land.h:

04:00:48  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Give meaning to two other bridges sprites arrays.

04:00:48  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: A bit of re-indenting too

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04:18:00  <Belugas> grrrrr

04:26:07  <Phantasm> Örr.

04:26:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12288 /trunk/src/table/ (bridge_land.h sprites.h):

04:26:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix(r12287): forgot to include two sprite renames out of consistency.

04:26:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: And obviously forgot to compile before committing, as the array rename would have been evident.

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08:06:46  <ActySofts> hello guys

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08:10:27  <Rubidium> 'lo

08:11:30  <ActySofts> Rubidium, do you have a good knowledge of the STL C++ containers?

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08:12:40  <Rubidium> depends on what you call good; have to use the api most of the time

08:13:10  <ActySofts> well, I'll try to ask my question anyway, shall I strap it here on in a query?

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08:20:48  <Forked> morning, peter

08:21:10  <ActySofts> morning peter

08:21:46  <peter1138> Hi.

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08:29:06  <yorick> your worst nightmare has returned!

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08:43:32  <peter1138> Yeah, lobsters are scary...

08:44:30  <yorick> sure

08:45:09  <yorick> I can't even join  #tycoon without seeing <lobster>RUB RUB RUB RUB

08:47:28  <globester> wow, you typed that exactly to start <lobster> on the 2nd line in my screen

08:47:35  <globester> looks like lobster actually said something :o

08:47:49  <globester> and now i did the same :o

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08:50:59  <yorick> :D

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12:29:53  <Forked> quiet day..

12:33:20  <Sacro> Forked: well nothing much will top a 5.2 earthquake

12:33:56  <Forked> where was this?

12:34:05  <Sacro> northern england

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12:44:21  <SmatZ> hello

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12:56:42  <Eddi|zuHause3> Sacro: wasn't it only 4.7 yesterday?

12:56:50  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: no, 5.2 now

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13:10:49  <Progman> if an industry is closed and a new one appears, is the old IndustryID used again or will there be an "hole" in the industry IDs?

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13:36:09  <peter1138> Well that fails...

13:36:24  <peter1138> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia

13:36:36  <peter1138> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!

13:37:27  <SmatZ> do you have valid config.h / autoconf.h in your <2.6.24 kernel sources directory?

13:38:11  <SmatZ> ah, load!

13:39:46  <Eddi|zuHause3> i can honestly say that never happened to me before ;)

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13:41:33  <ln-> did DDR have the same bundeslnder as today?

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13:48:48  <keyweed_> after a long hard day of complex coding and such i settle down for a relaxing game of openttd. after some frantic hours of clicking, thinking and cursing I end up with this: http://home.keyweed.com/ottd/City_Connect/Spijkervaart%20Transport,%208th%20Jun%202020.png

13:49:43  <keyweed_> and now my head is perpetually full of trainlogic

13:59:03  <Eddi|zuHause3> <ln-> did DDR have the same bundesländer as today? <- long story...

13:59:20  <Belugas> Progman, the IndustryID is just an index in the industry pool.  The pool can do anything with it.  But i assume that it will be "wasted" Why asking?

14:02:48  <Eddi|zuHause3> after 1945, Prussia was split up (in DDR territory that is what is now Meklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg, Berlin and Sachsen-Anhalt), and some smaller states got merged (Thüringen consisted of a lot of states, Anhalt and parts of Meklenburg were separate, afaik)

14:03:12  <Eddi|zuHause3> Sachsen was more or less left like it is now

14:04:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> after the creation of the DDR, these were kept for a while, but then the territory was rearranged in "districts" (Bezirke)

14:05:12  <Eddi|zuHause3> that was around 1953, but i'm not really sure about that year

14:06:39  <Eddi|zuHause3> after the reunification in 1990, the districts were merged into roughly what the "Länder" were before, but not exactly

14:09:25  <ln-> did the split-up obey lnder boundaries, or was some land split up half-DDR, half-west?

14:09:59  <ln-> besides Berlin, obviously

14:10:24  <Eddi|zuHause3> longer story... ;)

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14:12:01  <Eddi|zuHause3> the split up of prussia was made to obey the lines of the "Besatzungszonen"

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14:13:23  <Eddi|zuHause3> but some smaller areas were cut right through, and not all organisational borders were along the real border

14:13:31  * Yorick is testing out chatzilla

14:13:42  <ln-> ok

14:14:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> e.g there were church communities in west germany that fell under the juristiction of the east german bishop

14:14:16  <Progman> Belugas: for NoAI, holding an oil field industryID, got deleted and a new industry use the same ID, can maybe some trouble with the ai

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14:16:44  <glx> Progman: could be fixed using an event

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14:17:10  <Progman> anyway, just thoughts

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14:19:51  <Yorick> that events are not implemented yet :(

14:19:57  <Yorick> only crashing vehicle is

14:20:13  <glx> yes but it's possible ;)

14:20:25  <Yorick> then make it!

14:20:30  <Yorick> :-P

14:22:46  <Yorick> or how about callbacks?

14:23:18  <Belugas> [09:20] <Yorick> then make it!  <--- such the right way ...

14:25:50  <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: thanks again for the history lesson :)

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14:55:39  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12289 /trunk/src/table/bridge_land.h: -Fix(r12288)[FS#1808]: Wrong bridge head table associated

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15:35:36  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12290 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix[FS#1807]: Do not draw trees nor lamps between tram tracks.(Roujin)

15:36:06  <Gonozal_VIII> there were trees between tram tracks?^^

15:36:38  <Gonozal_VIII> ah those city center roadside trees?

15:38:09  <Eddi|zuHause3> there's a screenshot

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15:38:38  <Belugas> picky Eddi|zuHause3 ;)

15:38:40  <Gonozal_VIII> i think i pretty much figured out where the problem could have been

15:39:35  <Gonozal_VIII> yep, the screenshot is what i thought of

15:40:06  <Gonozal_VIII> my trams usually follow the roads inside cities so i never noticed

15:41:29  <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm

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15:42:26  <Gonozal_VIII> between rsselhorst tal and hbf there's a 3*3 road block with a building in the middle that has no road connection... cities do that?

15:42:47  <Gonozal_VIII> there are more of them...

15:42:50  <Eddi|zuHause3> yes

15:42:54  <Gonozal_VIII> since when?

15:43:04  <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't know, but they do that

15:44:23  <Yorick> they do that since...erm....the 3x3 road block was introduced

15:44:25  <Gonozal_VIII> but on the outside of the city there's nothing built not touching a road, only in those 3 tile wide blocks

15:45:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> <Gonozal_VIII> my trams usually follow the roads inside cities <- yes, but that track was outside the city when i started

15:45:55  <Gonozal_VIII> ah ok, makes sense

15:46:02  <Yorick> I think they can be built when there are buildings surrounding them everywhere

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15:48:15  <Gonozal_VIII> btw.. reichsmark^^

15:49:24  <Gonozal_VIII> you should make a patch that allows realistic inflation and multiple currency changes ;-)

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15:51:30  <Belugas> REALISTIC ????

15:51:34  <Belugas> REFUSED!

15:51:39  <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe

15:51:52  <Gonozal_VIII> suddenly all your money is worth nothing :-)

15:55:56  <peter1138> :o

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16:31:51  <yorick> quiet in here :(

16:32:03  * Gonozal_VIII is quietly quiet

16:32:41  <yorick> the strange thing is that everyone is watching the channel, but no one is saying something

16:33:15  <Belugas> blablabla  blala ??  ball!  balalbllabllab... :S  BLABLA!!!!

16:33:18  <yorick> proven by the fact above, I say something, 13 seconds later Gonozal_VIII responds

16:33:45  <yorick> and now Belugas

16:33:51  <Gonozal_VIII> i'm always watching

16:34:17  <yorick> Gonozal_VIII is watching you!

16:35:11  <yorick> aftger that, it went silent again

16:35:16  <yorick> after*

16:35:26  <Gonozal_VIII> well... yes?

16:35:44  <yorick> no!

16:37:28  <keyweed_> i try to limit the amount of uselss lines here, so i don't talk often.

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16:38:02  <ben_goodger> I watch all

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16:39:13  <keyweed> too lazy to remake openttd in perl or learn enough C to contribute, so i watch. mostly.

16:40:01  <Belugas> i watch and i respond when work@work allows me, when there is something worth adding or... if i feel inspired

16:40:02  <Belugas> so...

16:40:04  <Belugas> boooo

16:40:31  <yorick> you can?

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16:50:13  <LordAzamath> hheeellloooo

16:50:51  <Gonozal_VIII> there's a la

16:51:09  <yorick> Gonozal_VIII!

16:51:17  <Gonozal_VIII> ?

16:51:24  <LordAzamath> yorick!

16:51:31  <yorick> someone cane in :)

16:51:40  <yorick> came*

16:51:47  <yorick> LA!

16:51:49  <LordAzamath> Gonozal_VIII!

16:51:51  <Gonozal_VIII> yep, seems like somebody left a window open and it snuck in

16:52:10  <LordAzamath> anyone else to greet?

16:52:22  <yorick> try a1270

16:52:35  <LordAzamath> a2289!

16:52:35  <keyweed> me, me, me!

16:52:41  <yorick> keyweed!

16:52:41  <LordAzamath> keyweed!

16:52:45  <yorick> yorick!

16:52:47  * keyweed feels loved.

16:52:51  <LordAzamath> !yorick

16:52:54  * yorick feels loved

16:53:44  <yorick> keyweed!

16:53:46  <LordAzamath>  /yorick has misunderstood something/

16:53:46  * keyweed reads todays changed wiki pages

16:53:49  <keyweed> yorick!

16:54:01  <LordAzamath> keyweed:  it's !yorick not yorick

16:54:02  <yorick> :)

16:54:12  <keyweed> ow. sorry. let me try again.

16:54:15  <keyweed> !yoric

16:54:22  <yorick> !yorick triggers yorick!

16:54:24  <yorick> yorick!

16:54:26  <keyweed> close. still no cigar.

16:54:35  * yorick feels loved

16:54:59  <LordAzamath> !yorick triggers "/me feels loved" for the bot...

16:55:04  <LordAzamath> !yoric

16:55:06  <LordAzamath> k

16:55:17  * yorick feels not-so-loved-anymore

16:55:25  <LordAzamath> ^^

16:55:48  <LordAzamath> I just love this bot.. It's so funny sometimes :D

16:55:53  * yorick is being talked about

16:55:56  <yorick> :)

16:56:26  * SpComb hugs CIA-1 

16:56:26  * CIA-1 hugs SpComb

16:56:29  <keyweed> yus. and you wiki pages are being scrutinized

16:56:47  * yorick hugs SpComb

16:56:51  <LordAzamath> !yorick cmd_NOT: "Talk in passive"

16:56:55  <yorick> ...

16:56:59  * SpComb unhugs CIA-1 

16:57:00  <yorick> Yorick!

16:57:21  * yorick feels loved again O+

16:57:36  * LordAzamath hugs everybody but...

16:57:41  <LordAzamath> a

16:57:46  * yorick hugs LordAzamath back

16:58:02  * LordAzamath :)

16:59:07  <LordAzamath> I sometimes get a feeling that yorick  is not a bot...

16:59:19  <LordAzamath> dunno why though

16:59:26  <yorick> there is being talked about yorick!

16:59:32  * yorick feels loved

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17:01:11  <yorick> ...

17:01:17  <LordAzamath> ...

17:01:20  <yorick> ...

17:01:23  <LordAzamath> ...

17:01:34  <yorick> where is that pacman when you need him

17:01:45  <LordAzamath> ?

17:01:52  * yorick can download things from bash.com

17:02:03  <yorick> yes, pacman eats dots!\

17:02:29  <LordAzamath> ee... Untitled Document.. WTF?

17:02:37  <yorick> bash.org

17:03:06  <Belugas> papatidom

17:03:24  <murray> Results 1 - 10 of about 36,200,000 for intitle:"Untitled Document". (0.21 seconds)

17:03:34  <Belugas> #i wandered lonely as a cloud

17:04:02  <LordAzamath> how can a channel wander? =?

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17:04:36  <murray> don't you see LA, it's a precompiler directive

17:04:52  <LordAzamath> :O

17:04:54  <yorick> Deopped you on channel #i because it is registered with channel services

17:06:32  <SmatZ> #? works

17:06:33  <Belugas> # It's a super sized bird that sure can fly!

17:07:01  <LordAzamath> x, y, o and z and F channels all deopped :O

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17:08:11  <Belugas> # When the raven flies there's jeopardy

17:08:38  <Belugas> # Some Concerns

17:08:41  <Belugas> #haaaa haaaa

17:08:43  <Belugas> # Some Concerns

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17:09:18  <Gonozal_VIII> wtf

17:09:26  <Belugas> # I'm in the agony of Slipper Pain

17:10:03  <Gonozal_VIII> could somebody please tell me wtf is up with those # lines?

17:10:11  <yorick> #?

17:10:16  <yorick> all channels?

17:10:36  <Gonozal_VIII> not channels

17:10:41  <Gonozal_VIII> the stuff that belugas writes

17:11:02  <glx> Gonozal_VIII: he's singing

17:11:08  <Belugas> get yourself Genesis - Lamb lies Down on Broadway

17:11:10  <Belugas> and enjoy!

17:11:54  <Gonozal_VIII> i noticed that it looks like song lyrics... but why does every line start with #?

17:12:24  <Belugas> jsut to be sure they could not be interpreted as real posts

17:12:29  <yorick> #I don't know

17:12:45  <Belugas> hooo...

17:12:53  <Belugas> i';ve got a song that says that...

17:12:58  * Belugas searchs

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17:29:58  <yorick> we've set up #? as a fully-functional channel there

17:30:16  <Gonozal_VIII> yay

17:30:18  <Gonozal_VIII> ?

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17:49:29  <Belugas> the work you do when not watching forums :D

17:49:31  <Belugas> amazing

17:49:43  <glx> lol

17:50:20  <SmatZ> :-D

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17:53:11  * Forked applies this theory to real life

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17:55:21  <Eddi|zuHause3> passenger destinations, villages, branch lines... this game is so lovely...

17:55:41  <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm never going to get to do an industry game...

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17:59:41  <Belugas> :)

17:59:56  <Eddi|zuHause3> anyone else going to invite me to #?

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18:00:27  <LA[lord]> Eddi|zuHause3: Well.. there are only two of us there...

18:00:27  <yorick> I'm sorry, Eddi

18:01:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i am three, but i'm not there ;)

18:02:09  <Belugas> mmh... three->there->theer

18:02:12  <Belugas> fascinating

18:02:16  <LA[lord]> it is easy with Gonozal_VIII though... he has auto accept invitations on...

18:02:49  <Eddi|zuHause3> what is "theer"?

18:02:57  <yorick> dunno

18:03:08  <Belugas> neither do i

18:03:09  <Belugas> lol!

18:03:21  <yorick> #?

18:03:27  <LA[lord]> #!

18:03:46  <yorick> (you're supposed to click #? :P)

18:04:05  <LA[lord]> !yorick invite list.#openttd #?

18:04:28  <yorick> you may do that

18:04:52  <LA[lord]> no.. I don't want to get flamed for highlightning all...

18:04:56  <LA[lord]> ^^

18:05:03  <yorick> that's easy

18:05:05  <LA[lord]> It's much easier to use a bot

18:05:10  <yorick> just @seen *

18:05:15  <yorick> and dorpsgek will do it

18:05:32  <yorick> "highlightning"

18:05:51  <LA[lord]> yea, but they see that I gave the command.. although they don't see privmsgs

18:06:48  <yorick> actualy, @seen * will just print the first 10, the other ones are available using the @more command

18:06:53  * yorick tried

18:07:35  * LA[lord] would like to have another bot but yorick  at #?...

18:07:59  <yorick> how about triying to invite dorpsgek?

18:08:10  <yorick> or 42

18:08:17  <yorick> trying*

18:10:11  <Patrick`> DorpsGek is still around!

18:11:23  <yorick> he is

18:12:34  <SpComb> yorick: aaaand what is the #? channel about?

18:12:50  <yorick> the #openttd social channel!

18:13:04  <SpComb> hmm... does #openttd need a social channel?

18:13:12  <yorick> no

18:13:34  <LA[lord]> ^^

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18:13:50  <LA[lord]> but we can change the #? channel to something else too :)

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18:14:07  <Forked> holy crap.. this no-forum thing while working is pretty .. effective

18:14:18  <yorick> because it's name is ?

18:14:59  <LA[lord]> which means we don't know what it is ^^

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18:18:03  <Belugas> lol @ Forked

18:18:07  <Belugas> indeed, my dear :D

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18:20:04  <Wolf01> hello

18:21:06  <yorick> hello

18:23:15  <Gonozal_VIII> hi

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18:35:08  <Belugas> and another bridge done :D

18:35:12  <Belugas> now, work@work

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18:41:57  <LA[lord]> Belugas: bridge?... hmm maybe I shouldn't ask you now.. your'e still work@work...

18:42:14  <Gonozal_VIII> read commit logs

18:42:43  <LA[lord]> Gonozal_VIII: CIA should report them, shouldn't it?

18:42:53  <Gonozal_VIII> it did

18:43:05  <Gonozal_VIII> http://cia.vc/stats/project/OpenTTD

18:43:10  <Gonozal_VIII> there... bridgestuff

18:43:25  <Forked> Belugas: Maybe avoiding IRC helps even more

18:43:31  <Forked> but not sure I'll ever find out :p

18:43:51  <Gonozal_VIII> you not highlighting him would help even more i guess :P

18:44:05  <Forked> I was speaking for myself =p

18:44:12  <Forked> only 15 minutes left before I head home though

18:45:10  <Eddi|zuHause3> you are working this late?

18:45:38  * Belugas nods at Forked. IRC is time consuming too...

18:46:19  <Belugas> LA[lord], doing some cleanup basically... bridge data is an ocean of meaningless numbers

18:46:25  <Belugas> was...

18:46:29  <LA[lord]> eee...^^

18:46:32  <Belugas> now, it's getting clearer

18:46:52  <LA[lord]> so it was just untouched from beginning?

18:47:14  <Forked> Eddi|zuHause3: yep, doing a bit extra when I can .. pretty good pay :)

18:49:59  <Eddi|zuHause3> you are paid by the hour?

18:50:04  <Forked> yup

18:50:09  <Forked> for now

18:52:38  <Belugas> not me.  it has positive and negatives sides.  Overtime can be accounted for, but you need to do a lot before it is really noticeable.  You are not afraid of lack of work either

18:52:43  <Belugas> stability that is :)

18:53:23  <Belugas> if ever i have to leave for the day, pay check is untouched

18:53:25  <Belugas> but...

18:53:31  <Belugas> weekends, if needed, here i am

18:53:39  <Belugas> that is boring part :S

18:53:47  <Belugas> even more when having a wife and kid

18:53:55  <Belugas> and cat ^)^

18:54:07  <Forked> no kids.. but soon-to-be-wife, two cats and a dog

18:54:07  <glx> you were faster for this one ;)

18:54:51  * LA[lord] is going to reboot to linux and try to get network to work again

18:54:58  <Forked> then again she is working late today .. so all it really does is give a bit extra cash, a bit less backlog and I don't get to play x3: reunion

18:55:00  <LA[lord]> brb/hopfully

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19:11:01  <LA[lord]> :(

19:11:04  <LA[lord]> didn't get it to work

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19:27:28  <Ammler> what does MM mean of a svn diff, normally it has only one M

19:27:50  <Gonozal_VIII> modified modification?^^

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19:31:27  <Belugas> MM??

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19:31:34  <Belugas> on a diff???

19:33:11  <Diabolic-Angel> MM! on a diff!!!

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19:36:22  <Belugas> Ammler, maybe you could show that, as it does not make sens for me.

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19:41:10  * SpComb wonders if he's supposed to include the entire OpenTTD project history in his public copy of the OpenTTD git repo

19:42:21  <Ammler> Belugas: sorry for deleay

19:42:30  <Ammler> I made a svn diff --summarize

19:42:57  <Ammler> and most files only had a M some a D or A and one had a MM

19:43:31  * Belugas nevr used that feature...

19:43:33  * Belugas tries

19:46:11  <Ammler> some had also AM

19:46:35  <Ammler> I try that to check which files did change

19:46:42  <Ammler> binaries

19:48:55  <Belugas> does not ring a bell

19:50:07  <SpComb> http://pb.paivola.fi/522 <-- the openttd git repot for the masterserver code is missing some files

19:50:09  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12291 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_cargolist_valuator.hpp.sq: [NoAI] -Fix: squirrel file was out-of-date

19:50:10  <peter1138> Ammler: MM means attributes were modified.

19:50:26  <SpComb> specfically, date_func.h and date_type.h

19:50:34  <glx> Ammler: properties

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19:51:15  <Ammler> ok, thanks.

19:51:34  <SpComb> http://git.openttd.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=svn/masterserver_updater.git;a=tree;f=src/shared;h=5001c649bdd062dddc8f60fead42116433fa6f3d;hb=HEAD <-- they're also missing there

19:54:44  <glx> maybe it doesn't support svn externals correctly

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19:56:26  <Luukland> yorick... Ben jij de yorick die ik ken? :p

19:56:27  <SpComb> no, it looks like the entire .git repo is almost a year out of date

19:56:37  <SpComb> last commit 2007-03-17

19:56:38  <Luukland> (sorry English :P)

19:56:40  <Belugas> Luukland, in english please

19:56:51  <Luukland> Yeah forgot that one Belugas :p

19:56:53  <SpComb> who maintains OpenTTD's svn <-> git stuff?

19:57:01  <Belugas> no problem :)

19:57:42  <glx> SpComb: talk to TrueBrain in PM

19:58:29  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12292 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.txt): [NoAI] -Fix: no need to print GetName twice for Engine in regression

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19:59:27  <ln-> Luukland: pardon, bent u'n romulaan?

19:59:38  <Luukland> no i aint a romulaan :p

20:00:51  <yorick> ln- -nl :o

20:01:09  <SmatZ> :-D

20:01:38  <Luukland> btw, for my World Scenario I still need some people who like to help me optimize it. Currently only scandinavia is really 100% checked, but Europe needs to be checked also, just like Russia, Asia etc. So if you wanna help please feel free to query me, or check the scenario on the board: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=36407

20:02:08  <Luukland> The only thing I ask is 10-20 mins build time :P

20:02:51  <yorick> I don't have 10-20 mins build time

20:03:29  <Luukland> no prob :) Its just out of free-will :P

20:04:24  <Luukland> But I really need some people that are willing to help me :D

20:04:40  <yorick> good luck

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20:08:27  <yorick> Luukland: http://clanmega.clanweb.cz/viewtopic.php?t=3 <-- my work is in that world map

20:09:31  <Luukland> Let me take a look....

20:09:52  <yorick> if you can connect to that forum

20:10:26  <Luukland> its taking some time :p

20:10:59  <yorick> http://rapidshare.com/files/95203702/World_Map_Mega_s_0.6.0_v1.3.scn.html <-- rapidshare ftw

20:11:54  <Luukland> Whats the size of that map?! :S

20:12:04  <yorick> 2048x2048

20:12:47  <Luukland> for a world map... Thats not really realistic, but i will take a look at it :p

20:12:51  <pv2b> they dont call it enormous screenshot for nothing :-)

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20:13:01  <pv2b> i think thats the name

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20:13:51  <Luukland> america isn't on it :p

20:14:31  <Luukland> what a stupid map :p

20:14:33  <yorick> europe is

20:15:00  <yorick> I spent a couple of days remaking it to that version

20:15:12  <Luukland> yeah, well you shouldn't have done that :p

20:15:20  <Luukland> It looks ugly anyway :(

20:16:05  <Luukland> Sydney on the west side of Australia, whahahaha :D

20:16:25  <Luukland> Kind of Messed up :p

20:17:21  <yorick> ok, good luck doing that map on your own, I'm not going to help you with it this way

20:18:59  <Luukland> no i understand :p

20:19:19  <Luukland> I am glad you didn't want to help me (puh)

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20:20:24  <yorick> SmatZ: I unbanned you on #?, banning yourself eh?

20:20:38  <SmatZ> it was fun :)

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20:30:04  <Belugas> # AfterMagataree

20:30:19  <Prof_Frink> Is there anybody out there?

20:30:30  <Belugas> nope

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21:06:53  <Wolf01> 'night

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21:07:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12293 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs):

21:07:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature: Ability to change aircraft speed factor, from so

21:07:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: called 'realistic' (matching other vehicles) (1/1) to original TTD

21:07:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: speed (1/4). Note this option defaults to original TTD speed.

21:07:42  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12294 /branches/noai/ (15 files in 5 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIBridge(List), which lists all available bridges (no build yet)

21:10:23  <Belugas> whoooooo.....!

21:11:38  <yorick> as long as you can't build the things...

21:11:57  <peter1138> Build what?

21:12:04  <peter1138> Oh, bridges...

21:12:19  * Belugas was whoooooing at aircraft speed factor :P

21:12:37  <Belugas> i've got plenty of bridge stuff to whhooooo myself ;)

21:12:49  <peter1138> I did consider including the old code and speed units at one point!

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21:14:39  <Belugas> heheh

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21:16:39  <[1]Roujin> is the ttd plane speed favored because it's more "balanced" ?

21:17:07  <Belugas> nope, because it's like original

21:17:42  <Belugas> i wanted to talk to you, [1]Roujin, but i forgot about what :S

21:17:47  <[1]Roujin> so all patch settings that change something from original behavior are default off? :P

21:18:03  <Belugas> in this case yes

21:18:23  <Belugas> and it should be the way to go for changes from orignal behaviours too

21:18:41  <[1]Roujin> hmm. a patch of mine? bugfixing? meaning of life? cheesecake?

21:18:42  <peter1138> It should be, it hasn’t always been in the past :o

21:18:47  <peter1138> Supplies:

21:20:15  <Belugas> [1]Roujin: bug fixing : nice fs1807

21:20:24  <Belugas> but that's not what i wanted to talk

21:20:49  <Belugas> cheesecake... mmh...

21:21:02  <Belugas> stomach is growling

21:21:46  <[1]Roujin> thanks, it happened to be at the part of code i've been diving into for my traffic lights anyways ;) so, glad to help

21:23:34  <[1]Roujin> hmm.. do road vehicles stop in the middle of rail crossings if the bars get lowered?

21:24:15  <Gonozal_VIII> that would be kind of bad for the rv

21:24:35  <Gonozal_VIII> but i know why you asked, read it in the tr topic

21:24:48  <[1]Roujin> can anyone try for me? with YAPP it could be tested

21:24:50  <Gonozal_VIII> tl

21:25:01  <Gonozal_VIII> watched too much japanese stuff^^

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21:34:04  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12295 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Make plane speed option available to NewGRFs

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21:47:09  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12296 /trunk/src/ (group_cmd.cpp order.h order_cmd.cpp timetable_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1549]: restore timetable from backupped orders and add group ID to the backup

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22:07:37  <Patrick`> mmm, openttd

22:07:50  <Patrick`> so still no autosignals

22:07:55  <Patrick`> you dissapoint me, community

22:08:00  <Patrick`> is it in one of the patch collections?

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22:10:59  <Gonozal_VIII> autosignals as in?

22:11:08  <Vikthor> Patrick`: You mean like building one signal, then holding ctrl and dragging in direction to build them

22:11:28  <Patrick`> and having it predict along the track, following twists and turns?

22:11:48  <Vikthor> predict what?

22:11:49  <Patrick`> there were various attempts to patch it into mainline but hackykid vanished and there was another one in miniIN at about revision 5000 or so

22:12:15  <Patrick`> just lay signals along the track, following twists and turns

22:12:32  <Gonozal_VIII> ah yes that... it doesn't fullow corners, just straight as far as you drag

22:12:55  <Patrick`> it was called autosignals and it was really useful in the start of the game

22:13:05  <Patrick`> later on, I just terraform to give me long straight tracks :)

22:13:46  <Vikthor> no, it does its already in trunk AFAIK

22:13:50  <[1]Roujin> patrick: try holding ctrl while dragging in a direction

22:14:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> Patrick`: there is autosignals

22:14:14  <[1]Roujin> it should do what you're looking for

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22:18:13  <Gonozal_VIII> wow cool, i didn't know that

22:21:30  <Patrick`> cooooooooooool

22:21:37  <Eddi|zuHause3> it is only for advanced users ;)

22:21:46  <Eddi|zuHause3> (and i never use it)

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22:22:26  <Patrick`> it's such a time saver

22:23:33  <Eddi|zuHause3> only when you want to place a gazillion of signals

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22:29:26  <Roujin> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Hidden_features <--- hidden CTRL stuff ;)

22:33:33  <Gonozal_VIII> turn vehicle	Ctrl + click on vehicle in depot window. <-- huh?

22:34:14  <Patrick`> I know, I just thought that

22:34:18  <Patrick`> depots have one exit, so ...

22:34:45  <Roujin> no, it turns the wagon/locomotive

22:35:22  <Gonozal_VIII> wow, i have a backwards running engine now

22:35:26  <Patrick`> oh, duh

22:35:34  <Patrick`> reverses the order of wagons

22:35:35  <Patrick`> cool

22:35:57  <Gonozal_VIII> no only the sprite

22:36:17  <Patrick`> cooler

22:41:36  <Gonozal_VIII> but trains still have to start with an engine

22:41:58  <Gonozal_VIII> no push trains

22:43:22  <Patrick`> aww

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22:45:39  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12297 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIBridge.BuildBridge and friends

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22:56:43  <remaxim> ping Belugas

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23:04:32  <glx> remaxim: he's going ro home

23:04:41  <glx> *to

23:04:51  <remaxim> glx, thx

23:05:07  <remaxim> it's quite hard to reach him ;)

23:05:25  <glx> not really, you just need to know his time zone

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23:06:10  <remaxim> I know his time zone... I just always forget to go on at the right time ;)

23:06:50  <remaxim> I have to go then, have a nice day/night/evening/morning ;)

23:06:54  <remaxim> bye

23:06:55  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12298 /branches/noai/ (9 files in 5 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AITunnel (Morloth)

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23:15:14  <fjb> Hello

23:15:22  <fjb> !logs

23:15:23  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd

23:15:59  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12299 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_industry.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: don't assume any length of produced_cargo and accepts_cargo

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23:28:46  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12300 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIAbstractList.AddList() (on request by Progman)

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23:37:41  <Patrick`> ooh

23:37:46  <Patrick`> 12345 is coming up soon

23:37:53  <Patrick`> @commit 1234

23:37:53  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Commit by truelight :: r1234 /masterserver (main.cpp udp.cpp) (2004-12-22 20:12:28 UTC)

23:37:54  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: -Fix: fixed 2 memleaks

23:38:00  <Patrick`> @commit 123

23:38:00  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Commit by dominik :: r123 trunk/town_gui.c (2004-08-23 21:12:51 UTC)

23:38:01  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Fixed some indentions... btw credits for the last commit go to Celestar

23:38:07  <Patrick`> @commit 12

23:38:07  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Commit by dominik :: r12 /trunk (8 files in 2 dirs) (2004-08-10 17:06:10 UTC)

23:38:08  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Change: removed patch no_train_service. Instead you can set the default service interval for any vehicle type to 'disabled'.

23:38:22  <SmatZ> :-)

23:38:32  <SmatZ> @commit 10000

23:38:32  <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by rubidium :: r10000 mapgen/README (2007-05-31 15:16:44 UTC)

23:38:32  <Patrick`> @commit 10000

23:38:33  <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Fix: the readme did not explain how to install the wonderfull ``world'' needed for mapgen.

23:38:34  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: Commit by rubidium :: r10000 mapgen/README (2007-05-31 15:16:44 UTC)

23:38:34  <Patrick`> hahahahaha

23:38:35  <DorpsGek> Patrick`: -Fix: the readme did not explain how to install the wonderfull ``world'' needed for mapgen.

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23:40:52  <SmatZ> I do not know why this statement is different than the one in svn logs... maybe svn logs were edited later?

23:46:23  <Roujin> good night everyone..

23:48:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12301 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_industrylist.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: clearify the behavoir of AIIndustryList_CargoProducing (Progman)

23:50:12  <fjb> Hm, there are lots of vehicle sets, but only one ship set. Is nobody using ships?

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