IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2007-12-17
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00:50:56 <Gonozal_VIII> newwater is nice but the missing shores suck
00:54:58 <Digitalfox> Gonozal_VIII: Well that's what the BigBB patch also do if i'm not mistaken, or i might not understanded what you mean :|
00:55:26 <Gonozal_VIII> that's why i wrote yay
01:01:36 <BigBB> Digitalfox: in a second step (and patch) it will fix it, yes. This patch only include the possibility to show this (corner shores) alternatively with original or newGRF sprites. Also it fix a main 05-0D problem (the think what frosch wrote)
01:03:39 <Digitalfox> It's a nice work BigBB :)
01:03:50 <Digitalfox> I love your patch :)
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01:35:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11652 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: add the svn $ header for several files
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01:57:24 <UnderBuilder> who more has been made a dev?
02:01:53 <UnderBuilder> I was a bit outdated
02:02:05 <UnderBuilder> last one I noticed was maedhros
02:03:30 <SmatZ> UnderBuilder: I am just asking if you are not some of master OTTD dev under some unknown nickname :-)
02:04:13 <UnderBuilder> no, I have no connection with any developer of openttd
02:04:20 <UnderBuilder> I'm a casual player :S
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02:13:31 <BigBB> hmm, maedhros is a dev since over a year IIRC, so you are very outdated UnderBuilder :)
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02:28:02 <BigBB> Sacro: a nice new feature :)
02:28:37 <Sacro> thats more like a desync
02:44:34 <BigBB> I was sur I can drive drunken...
02:57:09 <kyevan> The first looks like what you get on #openttdcoop on a bad day, actually :P
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03:01:37 <Cats> all your base are belong to us
03:01:45 <Cats> you are on the way to destruction
03:01:55 <Cats> you have no chance to survive make your time
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03:02:17 <UnderBuilder> take off every 'zig'!
03:02:24 <UnderBuilder> for great justice!
03:02:49 * kyevan sets UnderBuilder on fire
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03:31:48 <laz0r> are there servers where you can build cool 'networks' cooperativly?
03:32:18 <laz0r> or is it standard behaviour to just destroy everything as soon as someone attempts to make a 'coop company'
03:32:50 <laz0r> that is, opening a game and not setting a password (both the game and the company)
03:33:06 <laz0r> as you may guess, i already tried
03:33:47 <glx> well, there are lame users everywhere
03:34:13 <glx> and the only way to prevent this is game password and company password
03:34:33 <laz0r> i had hoped the amount of lame users would be minimal enough with a game like openttd
03:34:48 <laz0r> but it seems the community is more 'active' then i thought
03:35:01 <laz0r> which is of course also a good thing
03:35:26 <laz0r> btw. i just started playing the game two days ago
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07:47:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r11653 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: [OSX] Allow windowed mode subdrivers to be disabled at compile time.
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10:20:32 <Leviathan> anyone tryed ECS with nightly?
10:21:00 <Leviathan> i want to use the latest version but beta2 has prob with ECS so i have to use nightly
10:21:05 <Leviathan> or use stable ver and ECS
10:54:47 <Svish> i tried to go into the multiplayer thingy, but I get version missmatch. probably because I have a nightly... but where can I see what version i need? is it standard stable version? or is it random kinda? should say what version I need instead of just version missmatch... =/
10:55:15 <Sionide> depends on the server
10:55:27 <Sionide> it says in the multiplayer screen which servers are running which versions
10:55:49 <Sionide> some of the run latest stable, some latest nightly build, some a recent nightly build
10:59:50 <Leviathan> where r the openttd settings stored
11:00:04 <Leviathan> i just setup a folder with nightly, custom settings, grfs
11:00:16 <Leviathan> and settings didnt copy
11:02:16 <Sionide> well it's in the openttd.cfg file
11:02:42 <Sionide> should be in the root dir of openttd
11:03:03 <Leviathan> in my Program Files\OpenTTD
11:03:08 <Leviathan> thats the stable version
11:03:14 <Leviathan> but ive loaded the nightly from the desktop
11:03:26 <Leviathan> it must be using the one from the stable ver... and not from its own dir
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11:05:55 <Leviathan> this makes no sence
11:06:18 <Leviathan> im loading the nightly
11:06:29 <Leviathan> i dont know which .cfg file its using for its settings
11:06:37 <Leviathan> cuz i want to copy the dir over lan
11:06:40 <Gonozal_VIII> the one in its folder
11:06:51 <Leviathan> it was using the one from Program Files\OpenTTD
11:06:57 <Leviathan> from the stable, but not ive uninstalled that
11:07:06 <Leviathan> there is no .cfg in either folder
11:07:11 <Gonozal_VIII> then there is no cfg in the dir
11:07:12 <Leviathan> but its using the custom settings i just set up
11:07:39 <Gonozal_VIII> when there is no cfg in the dir it will use the global one
11:08:26 <Leviathan> where is the global one
11:08:36 <Gonozal_VIII> [12:06:51] Leviathan: it was using the one from Program Files\OpenTTD
11:08:43 <Leviathan> i just uninstalled that
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11:08:47 <Leviathan> there is no cfg in that folder
11:08:51 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm not program files...
11:08:56 <Gonozal_VIII> that's install dir
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11:09:07 <Gonozal_VIII> look in "my documents"
11:09:36 <Svish> what do you guys recommend when it comes to servicing?
11:09:45 <Svish> my trains seem to break down alot... :p
11:10:04 <Svish> is it because I dont have enough depots around?
11:10:05 <Leviathan> ok im using the nightly
11:10:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i have 75 days and add a "service at x depot" order to the orders
11:10:23 <Leviathan> nightly instead of beta2 as beta2 has prob with ECS
11:10:35 <Leviathan> use nightly or stable?
11:10:40 <Leviathan> as i want to use ECS
11:10:52 <Svish> Gonozal_VIII: ok, so you both turn the interval down and use orders?
11:11:27 <Gonozal_VIII> sometimes i also force trains into a depot
11:11:39 <Svish> where do you usually have depots?
11:11:43 <Gonozal_VIII> (depot order without service or no rail around it)
11:11:53 <Gonozal_VIII> before the loading station
11:11:55 <Svish> at the moment I try to keep them on the mainline...
11:12:26 <Gonozal_VIII> mainline is not very good unless the trains have enough space to slow down
11:12:47 <Svish> i used to have one by every station before, but that caused some prolems...hehe
11:13:02 <Svish> cause other trains would randomly go to a depot they shouldnt go to
11:13:17 <Gonozal_VIII> do that with service at
11:13:25 <Gonozal_VIII> they only use that depot for service then
11:13:56 <Svish> and how do i do that? just use the orders, Go To, and click on the depot I want?
11:14:02 <Gonozal_VIII> they get lost easily when they choose a random depot
11:14:20 <Gonozal_VIII> click on the depot and then activate service at
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11:15:29 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, like you would activate full lload
11:15:39 <Svish> havent seen that button...
11:15:51 <Gonozal_VIII> it only exists for depots
11:16:06 <Svish> thanks for the tips, will definatly try it out :)
11:16:27 <Svish> will start a new game soon... gotten to 2070 something in the current one... time to let go... lol
11:16:53 <Gonozal_VIII> you could also set the default service interval to 0 (no service at all) and add a depot order without "service at" to every vehicle
11:18:17 <Gonozal_VIII> that will force them to service there everytime not only when they need servicing
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11:18:38 <Leviathan> are large maps unstable?
11:19:00 <Leviathan> gets stuck at 53% when trying to create 2048x2048
11:19:08 <Gonozal_VIII> they can run slow or even desync in multiplayer under certain conditions but not unstable...
11:19:27 <Gonozal_VIII> industry creation with ecs on huge maps can take a while
11:20:25 <Gonozal_VIII> you can try with a lower industry setting, most of them will close down anyways if you can't connect them in the first 5-10 years
11:21:13 <Leviathan> well ive set it to low industry/town
11:21:38 <Leviathan> is 1024x1024 a better idea then?
11:21:39 <Gonozal_VIII> is it really stuck or does it only count industries slowly?
11:21:51 <Leviathan> its not stoped.. its just going uber slow, even on quad core
11:22:03 <Gonozal_VIII> cores don't help
11:22:07 <Leviathan> it ziped to 53% now its goin well slow
11:22:11 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd only uses one core
11:22:12 <Leviathan> is 1024x1024 a better idea then?
11:22:47 <Gonozal_VIII> it's only a problem for map generation not while the game is running
11:23:03 <Leviathan> so setup dedicated ?
11:23:19 <Leviathan> and what about map size?
11:23:25 <Gonozal_VIII> that also has to generate a map...
11:23:59 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't try 2048^2 multiplayer
11:24:03 <Leviathan> it will take time to generate a map
11:24:09 <Leviathan> but will be fine once generated
11:24:13 <Leviathan> so no need for dedi
11:24:42 <Gonozal_VIII> 1024 should work fine
11:26:11 <Leviathan> ok started generateing a 1024 map
11:29:30 <Gonozal_VIII> the industries have strict placement conditions, it can try thousands of times to find a place for another industry
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12:17:56 <Gonozal_VIII> my trees are getting better :D i make a screenshot... remove some pink pixel, encode, load ingame, make a screenshot... until everything pink is gone :-)
12:42:25 <Gonozal_VIII> pink is gone but the colours i replaced it with don't look like the colours i had before, now the trees look stupid.. bah i don't like grf stuff
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13:13:22 <LevQuad> how do i transport wood products
13:18:53 <Progman> you need additional newgrfs for new trains or vehicles or sth.
13:19:14 <Progman> like dbset + dbset ecs ext.
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13:21:55 <kyevan> I feel bad for the people who type u instead of you.
13:21:58 <kyevan> They're so poor, they have to skimp on letters to make ends meet :(
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13:23:57 <mikegrb> kyevan: I usually just assume that they think what they are saying is so unimportant it isn't worth their time to type it out fully
13:24:03 <mikegrb> kyevan: and thus, not worth my time to read it
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13:27:42 <LevQuad> after ia add and apply?
13:29:17 <kyevan> Hmm. Is there a way to zoom in further? (Double the size of each tile, or so) without just using a lower resolution?
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13:30:33 <Progman> lev400: you got the dbxl set?
13:30:50 <Progman> and the dbxl set itself
13:31:10 <Progman> its only extends the dbxl set by waggons for ecs
13:31:49 <lev400> dbxl_ecs.grf and dbsetxlw.grf
13:33:05 <Progman> it crashs, what did you do?
13:33:48 <lev400> and didnt know we needed new wagons
13:33:52 <Progman> some newgrfs can only be used at startup
13:33:55 <lev400> dam ECS page dosent have enough info
13:34:12 <lev400> well thats that game unless
13:34:21 <Progman> as the dbset "delete" all other trains and replace them by new ones
13:35:23 * kyevan 's taken to using the windows magnifier when he's playing >_>
13:35:35 <kyevan> The things are just too darn small otherwise :P
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13:58:32 <Svish> kyevan: use a lower resolution and go fullscreen instead :p thats what I do at least... hehe
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14:45:11 <Leviathan> im using dbset with ecs
14:45:24 <Leviathan> what happens when i want to use monorail and maglev?
14:45:30 <Leviathan> can i move the new cargo?
14:49:55 <glx> I think you can only move passengers, tourists and goods with monorail/maglev and dbset
14:53:39 * Brianetta parsed what glx said wrongly
14:53:51 <Brianetta> ("what, you can't move them with steam?")
14:54:27 <Brianetta> glx: Didn't take me long to cath() that and re-parse
14:55:45 <glx> should I have said "move only" instead ?
14:57:42 <Brianetta> thing is, many grammatically correct sentences in English are ambiguous outside of their context.
14:58:19 <Brianetta> No doubt if I'd joined earlier and seen what you were responding to, it wouldn't have been noticeable
14:59:26 <Brianetta> Man, it's getting dark already
14:59:42 <Brianetta> The lattitude here isnoticeable near the solstices
15:00:02 <Sacro> Brianetta: i'll enjoy my few minutes extra :)
15:00:25 <Brianetta> You probably only get about one minute at each end
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15:34:26 <Leviathan> and have to start again i take it
15:37:34 <Leviathan> Extended cargo schema
15:37:58 <Leviathan> i got trains that can transport the new cargos
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15:45:35 <glx> lv4 contains only road vehicles
15:45:52 <Draakon> what is the flyspray address? :P
16:01:45 <Leviathan> Generic Road Vehicle set works
16:08:40 <Draakon> articulated vehicles; what this means? :P
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16:27:26 <Draakon> is there a patch that disables industries to close, no matter of what?
16:28:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, comment out the appropriate line in industry_cmd.cpp
16:31:51 <SmatZ> Draakon: I think there is some variable "closeit" ...
16:31:53 <gege> my remoted server are lagging
16:32:19 <Draakon> as i know there should be one
16:32:27 <gege> my remoted serv run at 10mb/s
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16:33:14 <Draakon> pls post your server CFG
16:33:44 <dihedral> gege - you have ships?
16:33:56 <dihedral> Draakon: then comment the line and make a patch
16:34:10 <gege> yes but i have ships in my last games and theres no lag
16:34:24 <Draakon> can you post your CFG?
16:34:41 <dihedral> remove the rcon pass first :-P
16:34:43 <Draakon> upload cfg file somewhere
16:35:24 <dihedral> do you have lags when playing on other servers or just yours?
16:35:54 <dihedral> and does your console say something like 'client x is slow, try increasing net_fram_freq'?
16:38:21 <gege> yes theres this message you write but only in this server and only in this map
16:38:42 <dihedral> is that your client id?
16:39:10 <gege> yes only me conecting now
16:39:17 <Draakon> im looking at the cfg file now
16:39:36 <dihedral> how many ships do you have?
16:39:51 <gege> but in the serv about 100
16:40:54 <dihedral> then dont worry looking any further
16:40:55 <Draakon> cfg seems to be fine, that one you sent
16:41:15 <dihedral> forget the cfg - he said his ships use yapf and he has 100 of them
16:41:20 <Draakon> are you sure you sent your servers cfg?
16:41:28 <gege> turn off the yapf for ships?
16:41:37 <Draakon> dihedral: there are many things that make servers and games lag
16:41:39 <dihedral> would be an idea :-P
16:41:55 <Draakon> and one of the ways are in CFG
16:41:56 <dihedral> Draakon: yes - and that is one of them
16:42:59 <Gonozal_VIII> ships would need a recalculate path button and use the same path again until you press it
16:43:05 <gege> how can i turn it off when the server running?
16:43:41 <dihedral> patch ship_use_yapf 0
16:43:59 <dihedral> rcon <pass> "patch ship_use_yapf 0"
16:44:08 <dihedral> or something along those lines
16:45:41 <gege> thats works fine great thank you
16:46:21 <dihedral> aw - just wish Draakon were here to see that line :-P
16:46:22 <gege> rcon <pass> "patch yapf.ship_use_yapf 0"
16:46:34 <dihedral> yes - looks like it :-P
16:48:17 <dihedral> btw - it will be wise over long distances to use a bunch of buoys for ships... i.e. every 20 - 30 tiles or so
16:48:41 <dihedral> and then reference them in the goto orders
16:48:54 <dihedral> makes path-finding a bit less intense
16:51:45 <gege> any more tricks to make a server faster?
16:52:09 <dihedral> yes - read wiki.openttd.org :-)
16:52:37 <gege> i read it many times but too big for me and i have only limited time beacuse my work and my darling:D
16:58:49 <dihedral> yes - but that aint anything special here to be honest :-P
16:59:11 <dihedral> and in all fairness - there is a 'search' function
16:59:56 <gege> There is no page titled "server lag". You can create this page.
16:59:56 <gege> For more information about searching OpenTTD, see Searching OpenTTD.
16:59:56 <gege> Showing below up to 20 results starting with #1.
17:00:26 <gege> There is no page titled "lag". You can create this page.
17:00:26 <gege> For more information about searching OpenTTD, see Searching OpenTTD.
17:00:26 <gege> Showing below 0 results starting with #1.
17:01:04 <gege> if i know the problem are the yapf at boats i easy find the way how to solve
17:01:22 <dihedral> you are not telling me that you are seriously that incapable of finding help on the web :-P
17:01:42 <gege> but if i only know theres a lag and i dunno why its taking many time
17:03:21 <dihedral> have you heared of tt-forums.net?
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17:04:30 <gege> yes i have many way to find whats the problem
17:04:57 <gege> the #openttd chanel is one and i now choose this
17:05:04 <dihedral> though searching the forums and the wiki for a bit more than one term could be a hint
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18:12:41 <kyevan> Svish: But I dun wanna go full-screen :(
18:15:39 <kyevan> Hmm. Why are desync errors fatal? Couldn't it just pause, resync to the server (If the server is wrong, it's wrong for good :P) and keep playing?
18:16:17 <Gonozal_VIII> that could be used to annoy other players
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18:16:36 <Gonozal_VIII> desync on purpose and let the others wait...
18:16:38 <taskland> hello people of the internts, i need some help
18:17:03 <taskland> we are on lan and cant create a server with the latest version
18:17:11 <taskland> it crashes when somebody tries to join :(
18:17:24 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: And desyncing on purpose and dumping them all to the menu can't be used to annoy them? >_>
18:17:48 <Gonozal_VIII> only the server admin can do that and he could also shut the server down...
18:19:00 <Gonozal_VIII> and what is the "latest version"
18:19:39 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Oh? I've seen players trigger desyncs on command. Usually with prospecting going wrong.
18:19:39 <dihedral> then take a nightly before that :-)
18:19:43 <taskland> but both the latest beta and the latest nightly crashes
18:19:59 <taskland> we downloaded the openttd-coop-grf-pack
18:20:12 <taskland> and that is probably the reason
18:20:13 <Gonozal_VIII> players can trigger desyncs for other players? they should only desync themselves then
18:20:41 <Gonozal_VIII> downloading the grf pack doesn't change anything
18:21:30 <taskland> if we dont load any new gfx it works
18:22:08 <Gonozal_VIII> try to find out what grf causes it
18:24:48 <Gonozal_VIII> kyevan, you say that players can influence the server to dump other players?
18:29:08 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Sometimes prospecting causes a desync, it seems
18:29:27 <kyevan> It dumps ALL players, including the one who caused the problem, of course.
18:31:01 <dihedral> hat that for a while on openttdcoop
18:31:57 <Gonozal_VIII> good that prospecting is expensive so you can't just join and do that again and again
18:32:37 <Gonozal_VIII> unless there is a rich, not passworded company
18:35:03 <kyevan> Why can't we build joined airports? :(
18:35:11 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Like on coop :P
18:36:10 <glx> dihedral: using any grfs?
18:36:43 <Gonozal_VIII> airports are limited in many ways and that's good because planes generate lots of money without any work involved
18:37:07 <dihedral> glx - standard openttdcoop games
18:37:10 <dihedral> yes - they use grf's
18:37:36 <dihedral> and it desyncs everybody when anybody prospers an ind.
18:37:51 <glx> because I can't desync with standard industries
18:38:20 <Gonozal_VIII> switch to "as other industries" until the bug is found/fixed?
18:39:02 <dihedral> glx - as far as i know no new indu is loaded
18:39:53 <kyevan> Gonozal: But the lack of helipads at airports is annoying, I want to add on a helistation! :(
18:40:12 <taskland> hello again. we found the error. but now we have another problem
18:40:20 <taskland> it says that some strings are not defined in the .lng file
18:40:31 <kyevan> Helis (or blimps, if you have 'em) are nearly the only way to actually get valuables out of towns.
18:40:36 <taskland> is there any way of solving that?
18:40:49 <dihedral> copy the lang directory rather than just an exe?
18:40:59 <glx> dihedral: AlpineClimate V0.21 18.05.06 <-- and you say no indu grfs ?
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18:41:25 <taskland> dihedral: im pretty sure i have. but ill recompile and try again
18:41:42 <dihedral> glx: i am not that familiar with the grf's and did not think that the apline thingy used newIndu
18:41:44 <Gonozal_VIII> you said you use the nightly... they are precompiled
18:42:45 <Gonozal_VIII> [19:40:31] kyevan: Helis (or blimps, if you have 'em) are nearly the only way to actually get valuables out of towns. <-- drive through lorry bays
18:43:11 <Gonozal_VIII> or freight trams...
18:43:12 <kyevan> Not very helpful when 'drive throughs allowed on town roads' is off.
18:43:57 <Gonozal_VIII> that's a bad setting... place a piece of track over the road
18:44:42 <dihedral> is it set like that on the coop game kyevan
18:44:52 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: If it's so bad, why's it the default? :P And I know it's allowed in coop
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18:45:33 <taskland> dihedral: you were correct. thank you very much :)
18:45:39 <Gonozal_VIII> it's default because it's original... well original game didn't have drive through but... i don't know^^
18:47:13 <Gonozal_VIII> but the piece of track thing works... if you're fast enough
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18:51:08 <dihedral> glx: what does the alpine set do with indus?
18:51:13 <dihedral> i thought it only did the snowing part etc.
18:51:36 <glx> it makes temperate industries available in arctic
18:52:13 <dihedral> ok - but that still uses normal industry behaviour - no?
18:52:20 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe a poblem with farms and snow?
18:52:23 <dihedral> as opposed to new Industries
18:52:47 <glx> it uses new industries features to do that
18:53:02 <dihedral> if it were an issue with farms, the result would harldy be in 'everybody' desyncing apon prospering?
18:53:36 <Gonozal_VIII> if it's placed on the server but not on the clients... but why should it do that
18:54:49 <Gonozal_VIII> or it tries to place it on the server, doesn't work, random seed is changed but clients do nothing because it didn't work?
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18:58:53 <glx> dihedral: current coop game desync or not?
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19:05:41 <dihedral> glx: i have seen the current game desyncing
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19:07:00 <dihedral> Friggin: "an insanely intelligent word used by only those cultured enough to know it."
19:07:08 <dihedral> i like that definition :-)
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19:58:08 <Gonozal_VIII_> but that's good timing with the screenshot...
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20:07:30 <Prof_Frink> Bah, real people create lives in the fireball
20:09:50 <Prof_Frink> You probably can't do it in open
20:10:10 <Prof_Frink> Basically, two huge pax trains (ttdalter'd)
20:10:20 <Prof_Frink> Overflowed the casualty counter
20:11:05 <Svish> lol @ detention for using firefox :p
20:11:06 <Gonozal_VIII_> but it should be unsigned so no negative casualties possible...
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20:14:00 <Gonozal_VIII_> ok.... that's strange
20:15:14 <dihedral> world has 700 more pop after crash
20:15:21 <dihedral> sounds like 'the sun' or something
20:16:03 <Gonozal_VIII_> that would require dead people being substracted from town populations...
20:16:39 <Gonozal_VIII_> hmmm zombies!!!!
20:19:42 <SmatZ> do you have that before-crash save?
20:20:15 <SmatZ> Svish: it is Foxfire :-P
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20:39:16 <dihedral> notice from the school where that firefox thingy was: "to replace Mr. Charles Smith who has resigned"
20:39:29 <dihedral> that was the teacher who had signed the letter
20:39:46 <Svish> SmatZ: is that something else than firefox?
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20:43:18 <Gonozal_VIII_> Foxfire (bioluminescence), the glow from a forest fungus <-- he was eating glowing funghi in class
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21:46:38 <Svish> how can I get the game to choose the regular trafficlights when i press the s shortcut key?
21:46:49 <Svish> it chooses those weird arm things...
21:46:54 <Svish> didnt do that before =/
21:47:09 <Gonozal_VIII_> there's a patch satting use semaphores before year xxx
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21:50:02 <Gonozal_VIII_> construction tab
22:00:20 <Rubidium> the order of the colours in that palette is (AFAIK) important
22:04:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11656 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: add ZOOM_LVL_BEGIN and postfix operators so ZoomLevel can be used in some iterations
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22:14:17 <Gonozal_VIII_> ok, i have a full palette in the exact same order now... how do i prevent the trees from being converted to company colour as that's also shades of green?
22:14:40 <Gonozal_VIII_> that company 2 thing
22:15:10 <Gonozal_VIII_> well... i'll try it first
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22:19:58 <Gonozal_VIII_> much more pink than before... hard to find any pixel that's not pink
22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11657 /trunk/src/ (5 files):
22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: show better error message when trying to convert rail
22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: merge DoConvert functions into one, make test and exec runs the same for tunnels/bridges
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22:41:22 <TheBlasphemer> I remember a way to merge two lines into one, and give a specific line of the incoming lines priority with pre-signals, would anyone know where to find that ;)?
22:43:07 <TheBlasphemer> ooh, ty, never seen that wiki before :)
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22:54:09 <Sacro> can people please stop entering/leaving
22:54:15 <Sacro> i have more lines of that than of actual conversation
22:55:04 <Svish> hmm... how come my trains dont go into the depot, even when I have set it in the goto list for servicing?
22:55:35 <Gonozal_VIII_> they skip a service order when they don't need it
22:56:38 <Svish> but they do... cause they break down :p
22:57:20 <Svish> I have even disabled the service interval for trains
22:57:35 <Svish> and quoting the wiki: This can also be set to disabled, then you can add go to depot orders allowing you to have better control over when a train is serviced.
22:57:38 <Gonozal_VIII_> then don't use the service at button
22:57:42 <Gonozal_VIII_> only depot order
22:57:55 <Svish> and they will be serviced then too?
22:58:20 <Gonozal_VIII_> they get serviced everytime they enter, even if they only do that because there's no way around the depot
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23:12:18 <TheBlasphemer> Hmmmz, know what'd be nice, some kind of signal that could keep track of how many trains pass :/
23:12:35 <TheBlasphemer> So you can find out which of two merging lines gets the most trains, and as such should get priority ;)
23:30:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11658 /trunk/projects/ (langs.vcproj langs_vs80.vcproj langs_vs90.vcproj): -Fix (r11654): forgot project files
23:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> TheBlasphemer: there once was a waypoint statistics patch
23:39:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> sounds like a porn browser :p
23:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> <SmatZ> Svish: it is Foxfire :-P
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23:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> what exactly are "on topic" youtube links?
23:41:12 <glx> when they are related to the current discussion
23:42:23 * Eddi|zuHause2 makes note to direct discussion into a special direction before posting
23:49:56 <SmatZ> let's talk about the music of 80's!
23:50:08 * SmatZ posts some youtube link with 80's music clip ^_^
23:52:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's like if you have biology exam, and you only learned cucumber, but the topic is elephants
23:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> you say "an elephant has a nose, it is long and round, like a cucumber, a cucumber is ... "
23:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> (that is a very common joke in germany)
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