IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-11-09
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00:39:56 <minkaron> Okay, after poking around the code and whatnot, I'm trying to figure out the best attack strategy for this. I'm trying to work my way up to biome variations (but not 'mixed climate' in that sense), where the cosmetic appearance of the ground is different *and* try to keep it backwards compatible. From the looks of it, the landscape sprites are hardcoded in, and when using a different climate the
00:39:56 <minkaron> default temperate sprites are overridden.
00:39:56 <minkaron> So would it be fair to say that I would need to extend the NewGRF stuff (like adding a `newgrf/newgrf_act0_landscape.cpp` and a `FEAT_LANDSCAPE`?), untangle some of the hardcoding, and add to the 'saveload'? I've been looking at how `rail.h/.cpp, rail_type.h, etc` lets you add in different rails through NewGRF, and I think I'm grasping it like needing to use labels. Badges I'm a little iffy on.
00:39:56 <minkaron> But regardless, am I at least on the right track or have I just tricked myself into thinking I understand the code?
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02:06:35 <sirarthur09> Hello! OpenTTD is sideloaded on Android phones. Google is trying to shut it down, please sign the petition to keep android open so we can continue to put OpenTTD on android phones. https://c.org/HdBpKPq7Bq
02:31:05 <emperorjake> But the android version is on the play store and therefore not sideloaded?
02:37:12 <sirarthur09> emperorjake: All the repos I found sideload it i thought??
02:38:33 <belajalilija> also idk what it has to do with this channel
03:04:22 <sirarthur09> belajalilija: Because it directly affects openttd
03:05:21 <belajalilija> sirarthur09: But these devs don’t have anything to do with the android version
03:06:37 <sirarthur09> belajalilija: I thought this whole discord is for openttd?
03:07:26 <emperorjake> It is, but the android version is an unofficial fork that has its own thread
03:09:22 <belajalilija> Post your thingy there or in Discord channel #openttd
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08:48:56 <peter1138> Gotta remember where to find Teams.
08:59:27 <peter1138> Good job, Teams' "We need you to sign in again" Sign in button does not do anything :o
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09:36:15 <kuhnovic> Let me guess, it did that while you were in a call
09:37:21 <peter1138> Usually, but this time it never made it that far.
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10:22:10 <will_marshall_> Apparently I've got to stop sending the watergun emoji over teams it's bad for team morale.
10:23:25 <peter1138> Could be worse, like says paintball team building exercise...
10:32:07 <LordAro> i find the opportunity to shoot at your colleagues is quite cathartic
11:17:40 <peter1138> Planning Time: 8.535 ms
11:17:40 <peter1138> Execution Time: 53074.641 ms
11:17:46 <peter1138> That is somewhat suboptimal.
11:18:05 <peter1138> Planning Time: 9.046 ms
11:18:06 <peter1138> Execution Time: 1276.847 ms
11:18:17 <peter1138> Still not great but somewhat better.
11:18:27 <LordAro> 0.5ms extra planning tho
11:18:59 <LordAro> at some point i should return to the MR that adds `pragma OPTIMIZE` on close of the sqlite connections
11:48:15 <LordAro> we should probably get rid of some of the older PRs
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12:44:44 <talltyler> will_marshall_: Here, you can borrow from my armory: 🔪 🗡️ ⚔️
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12:52:12 * peter1138 deploys with 53s to <2s change..
12:52:16 <peter1138> Let's see what else I break.
13:00:59 <talltyler> andythenorth: "andythenorth's roller coaster looks too intense for me!"
13:02:54 <talltyler> I forgot about Flight of the Conchords. I know what I'm listening to at work today 🙂
13:13:29 <peter1138> Huh, my heated blanket turn off...
13:14:25 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
13:47:24 <peter1138> Couldn't find dependency package for XTEST. Please install the needed packages or configure with -DSDL_X11_XTEST=OFF
13:47:59 <LordAro> is that the error? not really clear
13:48:21 <peter1138> At the end of the 89,551 line error log, yeah.
14:11:16 <_glx_> but it's the vcpkg step, that should be handled by vcpkg
14:12:30 <_glx_> hmm the port file has `-DSDL_X11_XTEST=OFF`
14:19:46 <peter1138> Yeah, it's a vcpkg bug if it's not setting things up properly.
14:20:51 <_glx_> it is set, but we use an older version without the fix 🙂
14:21:06 <_glx_> I'm on it, but I need to test before PR
14:22:51 <peter1138> "Billy Robert O'Neal III" American names, eh? :)
14:56:20 <peter1138> +4023 -3413 ... uh oh.
14:56:32 <peter1138> And iIt's my pull request,
14:56:52 <peter1138> And it's my pull request, splitting up a large service class into smaller pieces.
14:57:27 <peter1138> Sneaking in refactors to help other developers (and myself) instead of the latest new feature request.
14:59:32 <LordAro> `# Also, on Windows, need \\\\\\\\, which Perl sees as \\\\, which grep sees as \\, which it will match with a real \.`
14:59:41 <LordAro> you ever feel like someone may have been solving the wrong problem?
15:00:24 <LordAro> unfortunately this is very explicitly testing filepaths ;)
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16:17:18 <minkaron> Okaaay, given that what I'm looking to do will end up touching a lot of files, what would be the best way to get feedback and discussion before hand? Should I make a draft PR or write up a more formal proposal and drop it in this channel?
16:57:15 <LordAro> minkaron: discussion (on an issue?) might be the best way to start with
17:09:28 <DorpsGek> - Add: summary for week 45 of 2026 (by OpenTTD Survey)
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17:37:32 <andythenorth> hmm grf chat time
17:46:11 <andythenorth> I have a self-imposed caffeine limit these days
17:46:20 <andythenorth> never thought I'd see the day 😐
17:46:26 <andythenorth> and decaf is just a fallacy
17:51:32 * peter1138 switches light from cool to warm white.
17:51:41 <peter1138> No wonder I was feeling cold.
17:53:10 <andythenorth> I am wearing 2 jumpers
18:41:35 <mnhebi> andythenorth: can't say I've noticed a taste difference between decaf and real coffee when using the same type of beans and same roast level.
18:46:01 <andythenorth> hmm people being wrong about GPL again
18:46:21 <andythenorth> duty calls? Or pretend I didn't see? 😛
19:00:14 <andythenorth> outlandish claims about GPL in the vibe coding thread
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21:10:59 <belajalilija> have newer versions or badges changed how purchase lists appear?
21:13:07 <belajalilija> like the order in which grfs appear within the list
21:15:42 <peter1138> Hmm, probably instead of "painting" with "no colour", probably a separate button to remove custom colour.
21:39:01 <peter1138> Hmm, figuring out what vehicle has been clicked is a bit of a pain.
21:54:14 <peter1138> The existing vehicle click stuff only cares about the first vehicle part.
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22:06:01 <peter1138> Hmm, I need to extend `Window`'s `OnVehicleSelect()` idea to support different things. Simplest is to add an `OnXXXSelect()` for each different thing.
22:06:57 <peter1138> Alternatively, rename it and accept a std::variant? Hmm.
22:07:34 <peter1138> (Or a type and void * for old school ways...)
22:22:34 <peter1138> (OnPlaceObject is the equivalent function for selected tiles)
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22:44:41 <_zephyris> Hits multiplayer confusion more, I guess...
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22:55:29 <peter1138> There's already a client-side option to control whether these colours are used.
23:02:01 <andythenorth> paint industries?
23:05:59 <_zephyris> Though they don't have native 2CC support, right?
23:06:10 <_zephyris> Set via varact instead?
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23:07:22 <peter1138> Industries are not player-owned.
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