IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-10-02
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08:44:18 <underdogu> I wanted to know that if there is any plane to extend the time period of Helicopters?
08:45:48 <peter1138> Can be done with NewGRFs.
08:47:24 <belajalilija> I already told them no
08:48:46 <belajalilija> This is giving major“mom said no so I’ll ask dad” energy
08:53:05 <LordAro> other than turning off vehicle expiration entirely
08:54:52 <belajalilija> Yeah i told them that too
08:56:40 <LordAro> underdogu: listen to ~your mother~belajalilija
08:58:17 <underdogu> in the middle of the game can you do that?
09:00:04 <belajalilija> I already told you how
09:00:37 <belajalilija> “You’d need to change the settings and run the resetengines command for that”
09:02:07 <underdogu> that is my problem i am in the y2224
09:02:24 <belajalilija> “You’d need to change the settings and run the resetengines command for that”
09:02:54 <belajalilija> The console to enter command is under the ? Button
09:02:59 <belajalilija> At the top right
09:03:18 <belajalilija> Or some button on the top right but it’s probably ?
09:04:25 <underdogu> i'm in the advanced settings
09:04:53 <belajalilija> Have you disabled vehicles going obsolete?
09:05:59 <belajalilija> Now you can close that window
09:06:20 <belajalilija> And press on the thing in the top right that probably looks like a ?
09:06:39 <belajalilija> And you should see an option that mentions a console
09:06:50 <belajalilija> Probably “toggle console”
09:07:01 <belajalilija> Then you press that
09:07:32 <belajalilija> And type in “resetengines”
09:07:50 <belajalilija> Then close the console
09:08:01 <belajalilija> Do you now have helicopters?
09:23:10 <underdogu> I'll be back in 2hrs
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10:43:03 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
11:23:53 <peter1138> Time to approve another slop-patch post on t' frooms.
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13:04:09 <talltyler> Someone emailed me asking for push access to the OpenTTD wiki to upload images and improve the manual. Shouldn't this be possible through the wiki interface? I had a poke at the wiki but can't figure out how to upload images.
13:05:32 <LordAro> istr it being mildly hidden
13:11:47 <_glx_> it's somewhere under `File`
13:14:34 <_glx_> (well the link is already the edit one)
13:34:49 <peter1138> It is definitely possible to upload images, nobody needs push access.
13:41:48 <_glx_> I think the typical workflow for that is you put a `[[File:...]]` at the right place in the page, then you can click on it and edit
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18:28:15 <hpiirai> yay, it compiles! and runs!
19:30:16 <will_marshall_> Patiently handing the authors a definition of "Zero Tolerance" and sitting back and waiting.
19:33:43 <peter1138> Why bring up this shit here?
19:41:00 <andythenorth> came up in forums
19:42:36 <andythenorth> was curious how Linux is doing it, and the legal basis
19:44:57 <talltyler> I don't think anyone really knows the legal basis, but lots of people want to speculate.
19:45:14 <talltyler> OpenTTD prohibits it because reviewing code written by human strangers is hard enough.
19:45:34 <andythenorth> the legal basis is a red herring, the reviewing is not
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19:51:22 <andythenorth> kind of wondering if SFC will find themselves insider the "Are we the baddies?" meme
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19:59:25 <bfgiant> All their recommendations are pretty in line with the stance of the project I've seen here; see #1: The FOSS community should support, not just tolerate, those who outright reject LLM-gen-AI systems. There are many intersecting ethical and moral issues regarding these systems, many of which are not currently fully understood. Anyone who chooses to avoid them deserves our support and assistance.
20:04:21 <andythenorth> Curious how Linus will back out the first copyright infringement in the kernel
20:16:16 <peter1138> My stance is not simply "but copyright" so fuck off with that approach.
20:20:42 <andythenorth> I don't see how these AI forks can be distributed, and whether we should just get them taken down
20:21:10 <andythenorth> the authors can't comply practically with GPL, so it's an infringement
20:22:26 <peter1138> Same as any other infringement, basically nothing because there is no legal team.
20:24:13 <andythenorth> might stop reading development forums again for a bit 😛
20:25:59 <audigex> It can’t be un-invented, it’s worth having the conversations to understand how/if/when it should/shouldn’t be used
20:25:59 <audigex> The legal question is an important one: if I didn’t write the code, can I submit it as GPL?
20:27:50 <peter1138> Simple, it shouldn't be used. Nothing more needed.
20:31:00 <andythenorth> audigex: In certain jurisdictions yes, **if** you can confirm that no copyright was violated by the produced artefact. Currently this is impossible for all practical purposes, not least because you don't have access to a lot of copyrighted material.
20:31:23 <andythenorth> And also because you don't have infinite time
20:33:56 <andythenorth> The conversation about whether it can be used in OpenTTD has already been had, and it can't.
20:34:48 <andythenorth> I don't have a dog in this fight, but I was surpised the Linus is accepting LLM contributions, and that FSC have come out mildly in favour of them.
20:43:43 <andythenorth> legal stuff is a brain hole for me, I should really learn to not fall for it, sorry 😐
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23:34:53 <peter1138> Okay, who makes NewGRF airports?
23:46:20 <mmtunligit> technically me but it broke when opengfx2 happened
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