IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-09-13
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06:50:59 <andythenorth[d]> or wait for 160.0.3
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07:48:31 <mitchcz_81202> rito12_13: Hi, I have simillar structure like TileBase+TileExtended, stored in unordered_maps, what have tiles, entrances, and "ramps" (between-level rails).
08:04:28 <andythenorth[d]> does a station catchment propagate through all levels?
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08:20:36 <ic111_42219> peter1138[d]: Thanks, I now solved it. What I missed at first was that the c modes in emacs use a concept of styles, which interfered with my attempts to set things directly. A sequence of c-guess-no-install, then in the minor mode c-add-style and c-set-style, then in the .emacs (add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook #'openttd-minor-mode) did the job.
08:59:35 <rito12_13> andythenorth[d]: Why would it be needed? Underground houses? Industries?
09:00:37 <peter1138> Oh, I see github is broken.
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09:07:13 <andythenorth[d]> rito12_13: without it, how do stations underground get cargo from surface? 👀
09:07:38 <andythenorth[d]> putting aside how it was done, the patch is an interesting concept
09:07:49 <andythenorth[d]> would imply that water depth is needed
09:08:13 <peter1138> Just assume station catchment is 2D, because that's the easiest to implement and the easiest to depict.
09:08:50 <peter1138> But as it's LLM-assisted, it's pretty moot indeed.
09:09:01 <andythenorth[d]> are stations vertically connectable? I didn't follow that in the video
09:10:08 <peter1138> What I saw was "just build underground to completely ignore any surface obstructions"
09:13:58 <andythenorth[d]> coal mines eh
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09:45:50 <mitchcz_81202> underground stations takes industry acceptance only 2 floors under normal level
09:46:17 <mitchcz_81202> and yes, under coal mine, there is double-level station. It is one StationID
09:49:01 <mitchcz_81202> peter1138: it is not developed by LLM
09:56:40 <andythenorth[d]> we have become cynical about new patches due to "claude made it" for most of them 🙂
09:58:50 <mitchcz_81202> it really depends who and how can anyone use it. If you are not programmer, and just "claude something", it is really buggy... I understand, why devs don't want this...
10:00:35 <andythenorth[d]> anyway, the underground patch is interesting
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12:14:52 <peter1138> There's plenty of reasons other than "the user doesn't understand the output" to reject LLM usage.
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14:37:42 <talltyler> Underground catchment of surface structures makes sense, although you could also do a split station with a surface tile (trackless metro entrance tile, for example) to set the catchment area.
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14:39:50 <tabytac> I really like the needing to put some of the station on the correct surface for you to get the catchment, but it might not be intuitive enough
14:40:10 <LordAro> almost nothing about underground platforms is intuative
14:40:20 <LordAro> s/platforms/infrastructure/
14:47:17 <talltyler> A lot of OpenTTD isn’t particularly intuitive
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16:16:31 <talltyler> Deep water, IMO, can be a separate PR and is not a prerequisite for underground mode, it would just have to be a new game-only feature and not one that retroactively applies to existing saves.
16:17:08 <talltyler> It could also be interesting to have foundations for tall buildings that extend downward, but again, as a later feature.
16:17:12 <talltyler> Now is not the time for scope creep 🙂
16:17:47 <talltyler> Yes, only in need of a small rebase 😛
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17:17:04 <LordAro> ...i might be half way through the rebase now
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18:52:45 <_zephyris> Foundation depth was on my wishlist for house/town features...
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19:24:39 <peter1138> Of course, it'll need doxygen now :p
19:24:49 <LordAro> that's what i've just done, hopefully
19:24:59 <LordAro> hopefully in all the right commits
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20:25:25 <peter1138> Oh hah, if it's using `free` that's a bad sign :p
20:28:44 <LordAro> i caught the alloc (because CallocT), didn't think to look for the inverse
20:29:03 <LordAro> that whole commit could do with a proper update
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20:42:59 <Izzybee> soon: game script that implements sea level rise
20:43:23 <peter1138> From what I remember of the patch, the deep sea levels are virtual.
20:46:40 <peter1138> I know I had some qualms with it :)
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