IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-08-28
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00:09:41 <Philemon> Just for the fun of it I am learning how to upload clips to rumble... and the pitfalls in doing so. And OTTD is a nice base to do so and, as a side effect, show off it's features, new and long-standing.
00:11:26 <Philemon> I have enjoyed for many years the simulation part of OTTD. ignoringthe visual effects.
00:12:00 <Philemon> I am open to suggestions to improve the visual experience!
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06:28:10 * Phileman can't wait for the bug reports pouring in, even though he is on debian _oldstable_. debian has messed up again, seriously
06:32:14 <Phileman> prolly related to the nvidia driver, but still, breaking oldstable is quite an a achievement
06:51:58 <peter1138> Vague-posting I guess.
06:53:18 <Phileman> though I am not a delevoper and hence I am unable to pinpoint it more precisely
06:54:51 <Phileman> just a heads up, if bug reports pour in in the upcoming months, it is not OTTD's fault, but Debian's or Nvidia's
06:58:06 <Phileman> have a look at the clip I have posted earlier. there are some elemts missing
07:00:05 <Phileman> e.g. the income value when a train/heli/ship/tram unloads its cargo
07:01:36 <Phileman> this happend withut any alterations in OTTD's settings
07:02:20 <Phileman> but it happend after I have upgraded my debian _oldstable_ installation
07:02:56 <Phileman> first I thought, ok, recompile OTTD as well and everyting will go back to normal
07:05:31 <Phileman> just a heads-up, IT IS NOT OTTD's FAULT when in the upcoming future debain and derivates user report issues
07:58:46 <LordAro> what on earth are you talking about?
08:12:41 <LordAro> either more coffee, or more sleep
08:12:46 <peter1138> 22.1 ... they did drop me one at point, but then waited.
08:13:17 <Phileman> I know sometihing is messed up, but I have no clue about how to be more precise
08:14:09 <peter1138> Basic premise is being able to what what you expect to happen vs what you see happening.
08:14:29 <Phileman> and, i know it is not OTTD's fault but probably nvidia linux driver one's
08:14:47 <LordAro> peter1138: oh goodness
08:14:54 <LordAro> Phileman: look at peter's picture
08:15:07 <LordAro> nothing in your video suggests any sort of issue other than one of the transparency options being turned on
08:15:29 <peter1138> Nothing in the video suggests there is an issue because it all looks normal.
08:16:26 <peter1138> LordAro, oof, 23.5 if I exclude the slow bit leaving town.
08:16:44 <peter1138> (Traffic, cycle paths, etc)
08:17:51 <Phileman> ok, where would I find these transparency settings? I'd love if it was just me being dumb and accidently click something
08:19:59 <peter1138> (Or Ctrl-X as a shortcut)
08:20:17 <peter1138> Trying to set up Azure syslog collection.
08:20:30 <peter1138> I think I did it right but I'm not sure.
08:20:59 <peter1138> A fresh install of Debian 13 only uses journalctl :D
08:21:22 <LordAro> there's a way of redirecting it, iirc
08:21:28 <LordAro> but i've never done it myself
08:23:55 <Phileman> ok, tried ctrl-x with enabling and disabling all the option provided in the appearing menu thingy. no change
08:25:11 <LordAro> close down OTTD, find openttd.cfg & find "transparency_options" within it
08:27:15 <peter1138> Urgh, I'm meant to planning the route for Sunday. I'm not even riding it :p
08:27:31 <peter1138> Meant to do it yesterday but actually riding took precedence.
08:28:50 <Phileman> LordAro: transparency_options = 257
08:29:04 <LordAro> well you've definitely got something set then
08:29:06 <Phileman> transparency_locks = 257
08:29:52 <LordAro> we could argue about the clarity of the buttons forever, but i'm assuming user error/confusion
08:30:18 <Phileman> hmm, I do not remember altering any setting there. is it possíble I have done so by some mouse gesture?
08:30:46 <LordAro> "gesture", as in without clicking? no
08:30:53 <LordAro> keyboard shortcuts are more likely
08:31:10 <Phileman> resetting these options...
08:33:50 <Phileman> LordAro: you're the king, the missing values are back!
08:34:28 <peter1138> That would have been toggleable in the Ctrl-X window without needing to edit the config.
08:35:06 <peter1138> Looking at the config is a good way to verify though when someone is adamant it's not set.,
08:35:27 <Phileman> I have3 toggled all the buttons in ctrl-x without success
08:37:33 <Phileman> hmm, wait, maybe not all the buttons...
08:37:43 <LordAro> i suspect you think the top buttons are just pictures
08:38:08 <LordAro> peter1138: i figured it was probably faster
08:39:30 <peter1138> Hmm, I guess it's unlikely that AXIS etc will get the fixed applied to FIRS.
08:40:26 <Phileman> whooohooo duudes, you are the best
08:41:24 <Phileman> it was the "Transparenxcy for loading and cost/income" button
08:41:51 <peter1138> Yes, the one highlighted in my first picture.
08:42:03 <Phileman> however, it is very unlikely I have altered that setting via mouse actions
08:43:44 <Phileman> I am sorry peter1138, your discord app link had another colour here so I ignored it :/
08:44:03 <peter1138> Ctrl-9 is the shortcut to toggle it.
08:45:40 <peter1138> Problem is you were so focused on the idea that it was a random update/driver issue you never even explained anything to start with.
08:46:01 <peter1138> Anyway, all good :-)
08:46:07 <Phileman> ctrl-ß9 does exactly, and doesn not, as described
08:48:14 <Phileman> in a certrain way it is all good, peter1138, because recording shite looks much better wihhou these values being shown. but in another way I feel realy dumb right now.
08:49:13 <Phileman> I should have known there was a keybinding for that, given that I enjoy OTTD for many years now
08:51:55 <Phileman> just got mentally sidetracked because of an upgrade I ran on my distro at the same time I must have accidently hit ctrl-
08:53:58 <Phileman> peter1138: have you ever heard of a bolzenschussapparat? if so, please aplly it to my forehead, release me of my embarrasement, thenk you!
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12:43:35 <Phileman> oh my, just remembered that ole song... control – dash – nine | and the embarassment is mine. :P
14:43:54 <_zephyris> Hmm, rocky shores presumably needs an NML update?
14:57:56 <andythenorth> 96 cargos per grf? 👀
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15:23:28 <peter1138> Why stupid weird amounts?
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15:26:57 <talltyler> Goes it ~~remove~~ change limitation?
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16:27:29 <andythenorth> 65k cargos would spoil my metagame
16:31:35 <peter1138> 32 cargos should be enough. That's what TTDPatch allowed.
16:32:09 <andythenorth> how many vehicles did it allow?
16:32:18 <andythenorth> I remember split-HEQS
16:37:20 <andythenorth> I think 64 is a nice number anyway
16:53:42 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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17:05:21 <peter1138> Bit later than normal.
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