IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-08-20
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05:07:55 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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09:05:14 <peter1138> [2026-08-20 10:04:59] dbg: [grf:2] [6f676678-opengfx2_classic-0.8.1.tar/opengfx2_classic-0.8.1/ogfx2e_extra_8.grf:1] StaticGRFInfo: 'MINV' defined as 13080000, limiting it to 'VRSN' 2508
09:05:48 <peter1138> [2026-08-20 10:05:35] dbg: [grf:2] [opengfx2_highdef-20250713-bpp-m8c7143ebd4.tar/opengfx2_highdef-20250713-bpp-m8c7143ebd4/ogfx2e_extra_32ez.grf:1] StaticGRFInfo: 'MINV' defined as 13080000, limiting it to 'VRSN' 7
09:13:36 <_zephyris> Have I broken something?
09:17:19 <peter1138> min_compatible_version: version_openttd(1, 3, 0); ...
09:18:11 <Rubidium> vs `Specifies the minimal version of GRFs with the same GRFID this GRF is still compatible with.`
09:18:25 <peter1138> Yeah, it's not the OpenTTD version :)
09:19:35 <Rubidium> I wonder why NML scrapped the 'grf' from the spec when creating the field name
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10:11:13 <peter1138> Is it a thing to deliberately use undefined action 2 setids in action 3?
10:12:59 <peter1138> Maybe it's an old TTDPatch rule that you can't skip action 2s./
10:13:27 <peter1138> Hmm, no, that's the wrong way around.
10:21:59 <_zephyris> Worth defining an alias for `min_compatible_version` which is `min_compatible_newgrf_version` or something? And updating the docs to prefer that?
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10:42:03 <peter1138> Or reading the docs? :D
10:56:55 <_glx_> Openttd version check must be done using `if` block
10:59:13 <peter1138> [2026-08-20 11:09:39] dbg: [grf:1] [44450601-unspooled-0.4.6.tar/unspooled-0.4.6/spool046.grf:460] MapSpriteGroup: Spritegroup 0x0000 out of range or empty, skipping.
10:59:21 <peter1138> This NewGRF alone has 14 of these.
10:59:28 <peter1138> So it must be a common relied on pattern.
11:00:41 <peter1138> But I don't know why you'd be trying to link a non-existent act2 to an act3.
11:01:05 <peter1138> So probably a something NML does in the background?
11:34:46 <andythenorth> it's not something that would be easy for an author to do intentionally
11:35:40 <andythenorth> reading nml source
11:37:36 <andythenorth> hmm not obvious to me, but that's not saying much
11:38:02 <andythenorth> I was guessing it was related to action 3 callback handling
11:50:55 <_glx_> Might be easier to compare nml and nfo output
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11:53:13 <asasnat> does anyone know where I can acquire the source code of the first ever version of OpenTTD? I want to check something
14:30:05 <_zephyris> Hmm... proceduralish trees
14:32:08 <_zephyris> 4x, with cartoonish scale leaves
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14:56:49 <_zephyris> Broken handling of transparent blue...
14:58:10 <talltyler> Thought it was a weird tree fungus 😛
14:58:30 <talltyler> Nice looking leaves though
14:58:39 <LordAro> just shading, clearly
15:00:38 <_zephyris> Too bright for in-game I think, but with a quick recolour...
15:01:24 <peter1138> Porting the tree shading from JGRPP?
15:06:03 <_zephyris> Maybe. It makes me irrationally sad that it's not an 8bpp recolour though
15:11:10 <_jgr_> That is the approach the citimania implementation uses. However, as there are only a limited set of colours available the shading effect is far too strong and it looks garish.
15:16:53 <peter1138> In my custom company colour branch, there's an 8bpp to 32bpp recolour feature.
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15:20:06 <peter1138> Of course, then 32bpp graphics don't get shaded.
15:26:51 <peter1138> Hand-draw shaded versions?
15:27:21 <_zephyris> Dither mask on 8bpp recolour?
15:27:29 <_zephyris> Not obsessed with dither at all
15:27:53 <peter1138> I think the only time anyone uses an actual 8bpp is when it's us testing it still works :D
15:37:13 <_zephyris> Yeah. Pretty sure I'm being irrational, but there's a bit of a pixel artist in me that's shouting about it
15:52:00 <peter1138> jpplusshinkansen_v0.6.4.grf:2698] RailVehicleChangeInfo: Nonsensical weight of 1280 tons, ignoring
16:39:35 <peter1138> 4lvw does the out of range stuff too, but not only 0x0000.
16:39:40 <peter1138> And that is not NML afaik.
17:12:10 <andythenorth> oops, nearly out of industry IDs 😬
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19:15:55 <_zephyris> 1 shade darker isn't insanity for the trees, IMO
19:16:44 <_zephyris> How much darker is it drawn in JGRPP
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