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00:02:26  <rito12_13> 2.5 h to sunrise?



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02:28:45  <jfkuayue> a little light has appeared



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03:51:27  <goddess_ishtar> how do you add a neutral station to an industry? I can't find the property for it



04:51:00  <LordAro> don't you have to pretend to be an oil rig or something?



04:57:00  <peter1138> I appear to be awake early again.



04:58:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15650: Codechange: rework definition of ship and train tile entrance coordinates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15650



05:03:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15643: Codechange: make PriceCategory a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15643#pullrequestreview-4396404242



05:04:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15648: Codechange: make VisualEffectSpawnModel a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15648#pullrequestreview-4396404805



05:04:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #15649: Codechange: make SwitchMode a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15649#pullrequestreview-4396405175



05:07:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15632: Codechange: make FloodingBehaviour a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15632



05:10:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN dismissed a review for pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621#pullrequestreview-4353391977



05:10:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621



05:22:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15649: Codechange: make SwitchMode a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15649



05:22:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15648: Codechange: make VisualEffectSpawnModel a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15648



05:22:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15643: Codechange: make PriceCategory a scoped enum https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15643



05:22:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621



05:22:43  <peter1138> This is silly :o



05:32:57  <goddess_ishtar> LordAro: yeah, I know it's some stupid workaround like that, but I can't remember what it's tied to



05:33:01  <goddess_ishtar> the tile definitions?



05:33:15  <goddess_ishtar> spec doesn't say anything



05:41:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621



05:49:42  <andythenorth[d]> was it morning?



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06:07:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15650: Codechange: rework definition of ship and train tile entrance coordinates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15650#pullrequestreview-4396457193



06:08:44  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621#pullrequestreview-4396458234



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06:50:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Release workflow was not successful https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/actions/runs/26705415907



07:16:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15650: Codechange: rework definition of ship and train tile entrance coordinates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15650



07:16:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15621: Codechange: use scoped enum for MoveToAction https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15621



07:40:35  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15651: Codechange: use single array for vehicle subtile coord deltas https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15651



07:46:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15652: Codechange: make Diagdirection and Direction scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15652



07:48:03  <peter1138> Biek tiem



08:30:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15651: Codechange: use single array for vehicle subtile coord deltas https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15651#pullrequestreview-4396587986



08:46:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15652: Codechange: make Diagdirection and Direction scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15652#pullrequestreview-4396602619



09:08:53  <andythenorth[d]> well



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11:18:25  <peter1138> Back tiem



11:22:22  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15651: Codechange: use single array for vehicle subtile coord deltas https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15651



11:29:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15652: Codechange: make Diagdirection and Direction scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15652



11:39:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15652: Codechange: make Diagdirection and Direction scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15652#pullrequestreview-4396806181



11:54:05  <andythenorth[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510612329547698277/image.png?ex=6a1d72dd&is=6a1c215d&hm=f54f8e97e9ffe2e0a72525791e956b143be124d06df9cce2f2b4f582649b0982&



11:54:05  <andythenorth[d]> _zephyris: where might I find this rail cursor in ogfx2? 👀



11:54:09  <andythenorth[d]> I can't pick the sprite 😛



12:03:15  <talltyler> goddess_ishtar: there’s a special tile that you need to include in the industry’s tile layout. It’s tile 24, and you need at least 2 or maybe 3 beside each other. (Haven’t checked OpenTTD source, just my own industry: https://github.com/2TallTyler/trade_center )



12:03:15  <talltyler> No reference to the oil rig industry is required.



12:11:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15652: Codechange: make Diagdirection and Direction scoped enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15652



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12:13:59  <_zephyris> andythenorth[d]: It doesn't exist as an image, it's made by overlaying the icon onto the blank cursor with the correct offset.



12:14:13  <_zephyris> Easiest to build or grfcodec -d



12:16:11  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510617888187351153/default_8bpp.png?ex=6a1d780a&is=6a1c268a&hm=033da122122f098f4fdc8400cc3e1c66ad2b7a0f025e101c9bcd4d532de7798d&



12:16:11  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510617889055445194/default_8bpp.png?ex=6a1d780a&is=6a1c268a&hm=6de96e96c9f16192f26d172f8a616b5e3a95715c8804e84bf383094161c3e8ba&



12:16:11  <_zephyris> Or I just grab the generated spritesheets.



12:41:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] mattnotmitt updated pull request #15585: Feature: Add default road/tram type setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15585



12:42:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] mattnotmitt updated pull request #15598: Codechange: Calculate most used rail type using company infrastructure records https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15598



12:57:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] livingBEEF commented on issue #15608: [Bug]: Setting "Road vehicles: drive on left/right" affects semaphore graphics https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15608



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13:02:33  <_glx_> merged the last game-coordinator dependabot PR



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13:23:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15598: Codechange: Calculate most used rail type using company infrastructure records https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15598#pullrequestreview-4396925990



13:36:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15585: Feature: Add default road/tram type setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15585#pullrequestreview-4396929851



13:39:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15616: Add: implement custom waypoint layouts by callback 24 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15616#pullrequestreview-4396944698



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13:46:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15494: Change: account for driving cabs in driving backwards conditional order https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15494#pullrequestreview-4396957352



13:55:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15616: Add: implement custom waypoint layouts by callback 24 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15616



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14:39:59  <andythenorth[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510654078068461579/image.png?ex=6a1d99be&is=6a1c483e&hm=2d7006f25c1acfce33ae1d2ff7d1b5f474d2638e2288d5ddbfd5bc14a866aec1&



14:39:59  <andythenorth[d]> _zephyris: blank would be ideal actually 🙂  Need to replace this railtype cursor in Horse



14:45:18  <peter1138> OpenTTD composing cursors from baseset and NewGRF when?



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15:04:23  <_zephyris> Yes please



15:04:37  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510660280508481838/classic_yellow_icon.png?ex=6a1d9f85&is=6a1c4e05&hm=441fc054e8c2dea458e4082e5de2cb640b9e250d33659f616fd1f3afa2450369&



15:04:37  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510660280798154855/classic_yellow_icon.png?ex=6a1d9f85&is=6a1c4e05&hm=c43679cfcd80d2d4f1ff08147858424a4b1597a8d35aa0b572f7e2d50639c011&



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15:05:21  <_zephyris> Should be possible to a half-decent stab at the original graphics too



15:09:16  <peter1138> Just two sizes needed? Original graphics has cursors where the arrow points in a different direction in same places, IIRC.



15:12:15  <_zephyris> Original used a different direction arrow for each of | / - \



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15:33:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 closed issue #15615: [Bug]: Waypoints ignore select_tile_type (callback 0x24) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15615



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16:08:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15653: Codechange: make TrackStatus a struct instead of opaque uint32_t https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15653



16:13:05  <LordAro> novel idea



16:13:18  <peter1138> Hmm?



16:13:22  <LordAro> is that TTD-era code?



16:13:52  <peter1138> Probably an evolution of it.



16:16:00  <peter1138> In the first git commit, it's far more opaque.



16:16:46  <peter1138> But it was still a uint32, with signals in the upper 16 bits.



16:20:19  <LordAro> :)



16:23:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15653: Codechange: make TrackStatus a struct instead of opaque uint32_t https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15653#pullrequestreview-4397213061



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17:09:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15653: Codechange: make TrackStatus a struct instead of opaque uint32_t https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15653



17:10:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15654: Codechange: make TransparencyOption(s) a scoped enum/EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15654



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17:21:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15655: Fix: incorrect language IDs passed to TranslateTTDPatchCodes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15655



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17:32:08  <peter1138> Hmm, PC frozen :o



17:33:33  <LordAro> F



17:45:49  <peter1138> pings, not ssh



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17:54:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15654: Codechange: make TransparencyOption(s) a scoped enum/EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15654#pullrequestreview-4397326838



17:59:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #15654: Codechange: make TransparencyOption(s) a scoped enum/EnumBitSet https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15654



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18:48:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15656: Codechange: make a scoped GRFLanguages https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15656



18:58:28  <_zephyris> These are some of the original sprites



18:58:30  <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1510719139373645945/image.png?ex=6a1dd656&is=6a1c84d6&hm=6da4e566e5e8a6581f3e1c685475604e1b813489f646135e88e7f5c7773aef7c&



18:58:40  <_zephyris> cursor sprites*



18:59:24  <_zephyris> I'd suggest a NewGRF flag which allows auto-composure of a sprite in the style of the depot one, then baseset just needs to provide a single blank 'cursor with icon' sprite.



19:00:19  <_zephyris> Doesn't completely match original base graphics, but reasonable compromise IMO. Depots, signals, tunnels, convert rail, demolish all use the same basic cursor shape with a square icon in it



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20:37:30  <_zephyris> Hmm, infra newgrf flag which _disables_ auto-composing of sprites. Then updates old newgrfs, while giving current developers flexibility.



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20:44:34  <peter1138> uh



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