IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2026-03-25
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02:33:06 <hugolarsson0672> I'll help the first 10 people interested on how to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username @The_RealHugo_Larsson1
02:33:06 <hugolarsson0672> Or use the telegram link in my bio
02:39:02 <__abigail> teahigh: do you have any programming experience?
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02:40:08 <goddess_ishtar> c++ is kind of a shitty language to learn programming basics on
02:40:10 <teahigh> I guess short of dipping my toes into VBA and SQL but, bit different
02:40:27 <teahigh> Isn't that what the game is built on?
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02:40:44 <definitelynotcheese_> Python no?
02:40:51 <goddess_ishtar> yes, but it's notoriously arcane and about 20 years old
02:40:56 <goddess_ishtar> okay no that's
02:40:57 <teahigh> definitelynotcheese_: No, c++
02:41:05 <goddess_ishtar> underselling it by a couple decades
02:41:38 <teahigh> Yeah 85 I believe was c++
02:42:04 <goddess_ishtar> I got confused because 20 years is about right for OpenTTD
02:42:31 <__abigail> You can realistically learn to work with any object-oriented language and then you're halfway there
02:42:37 <goddess_ishtar> but anyway if you want to learn c++ *for the purposes of contributing to the game* that's valid I guess
02:42:54 <teahigh> goddess_ishtar: That's my main any only goal
02:43:12 <teahigh> If it gets a side benefit to work or whatever... neat
02:43:41 <teahigh> But I don't have any skills so I need to get them before I can do that
02:44:11 <teahigh> __abigail: What are "any object-oriented language" programs you'd recommend to get me halfway there?
02:45:11 <goddess_ishtar> teahigh: if you don't have anything in particular you want to do the repository has a list of good issues for first-time contributors
02:45:28 <goddess_ishtar> trying to find it but github has decided it doesn't want to load today
02:46:10 <teahigh> Noted, but I'm not much of a use unless I can fumble my way through it
02:46:26 <__abigail> teahigh: There are decent web-based tutorials for pretty much everything. If you only want to contribute to the game then maybe try the [W3schools C++ tutorial](<https://www.w3schools.com/CPP/>)
02:46:31 <teahigh> And I'd rather properly learn than just fumble
02:46:38 <goddess_ishtar> someone else is going to have to give you a general programming source, I don't have any
02:46:54 <goddess_ishtar> but for c++ specifically I have a few
02:46:59 <teahigh> all good, thank you (•‿•)
02:48:50 <teahigh> goddess_ishtar: Yeah my buddy who does programming for a living directed me to that at the very least :D
02:49:18 <goddess_ishtar> I wouldn't recommend W3schools or any other common source, they tend to be inaccurate
02:49:45 <goddess_ishtar> if you want a laugh look up anything on GeeksForGeeks, what a scam of a website
02:49:58 <__abigail> goddess_ishtar: Ignore what I said, I just had a look at this one and it's better
02:50:26 <squirejames> Righty, at risk of irritating everyone again 😄 Tractive Effort coefficients. How do they work?
02:51:10 <squirejames> Just apparently, a coefficient of 0.7 yields a TE of 73kN. So, I mean, 0.7 x 1042 = 73. Is that how its worked out or am I barking completely up the wrong tree?
02:51:11 <teahigh> goddess_ishtar: Thank you!
02:51:28 <teahigh> __abigail: And thank you for the correction lol
02:52:26 <teahigh> If anyone that stumbles across this has any other recommendations just reply or ping me please
02:56:50 <goddess_ishtar> goddess_ishtar: just checked and they apparently cleaned this page up, but it used to be absolutely awful so here's how I remember it
03:02:36 <goddess_ishtar> __abigail: decent tutorials are common but *good* tutorials which give current best practices are rare
03:03:02 <goddess_ishtar> it's not just about learning the language, it's about learning good habits
05:09:18 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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07:48:40 <peter1138> I should definitely spend £160 on a 10baseT network card for the Acorn A7000 that I don't use...
07:58:22 <peter1138> People getting "locked out" of their iPhones because iOS 26.4 implements age verification.
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08:37:49 <peter1138> People need to learn to fork, I guess?
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08:52:00 <andythenorth> such communities
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09:06:56 <ahyangyi> "While MkDocs currently builds the whole site at once, the proposed redesign builds pages on-the-fly when requested."
09:07:09 <ahyangyi> Makes me horribly confused about what a static site generator is supposed to be
09:08:43 <dwfreed> I suspect it just means you can do incremental builds
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09:09:04 <dwfreed> only changed foo, only have to build foo
09:15:14 <ahyangyi> Oh that makes a lot of sense
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10:22:10 <peter1138> Cold in here. Butter won't spread.
10:47:56 <_zephyris> Had that problem this morning too... How am I supposed to enjoy my hot cross bun?
11:17:20 <peter1138> I wanted to type "open .", to open my current working directory in a file browser.
11:17:28 <peter1138> I did, of course, accidentally type "openttd ." instead.
11:32:52 <jfkuayue> peter1138: github is rated 12+ in app store for no reason given
11:35:41 <Borg> so.. my routing restrictions. finaly reach ideal state..
12:56:01 <andythenorth> accurate timing today
13:00:34 <rito12_13> andythenorth: Just ate soup
14:11:25 <jfkuayue> tried a new ramen shop
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15:27:37 <andythenorth> too late for more coffee
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15:35:25 <kaykay04133> Anyone here wants to create a new map for game?
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15:54:57 <jfkuayue> Is it LordAros or LordAroes?
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17:32:33 <andythenorth> hmm I have a work laptop, entry level M5
17:32:42 <andythenorth> single core benchmark is higher than my M4 Max
17:32:50 <andythenorth> multi-core is a lot lower :P
17:33:03 <andythenorth> wonder how fast it compiles Horse
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19:57:45 <goddess_ishtar> LordAro: reading this I'm honestly confused why the original mkdocs owner didn't just turn the project over to the community and work on their rebuild as a separate project
19:58:16 <will_marshall_> I expect because a new project with no backwards compatibility would get next-to-no uptake?
19:59:25 <goddess_ishtar> but what did they *think* was going to happen
20:00:18 <goddess_ishtar> they didn't want to work with anyone else or take PRs or bug reports, they didn't want to include plugin support (which the entire ecosystem relies on)
20:01:09 <goddess_ishtar> that's just your personal project at that point, that's not FOSS community-driven software
20:01:42 <goddess_ishtar> it just reads like hijacking
20:06:07 <will_marshall_> People are weird about the things they create.
20:10:25 <andythenorth> "people are weird" covers it :)
20:19:28 <belajalilija> I think strange is a better word
20:21:01 <peter1138> No, that's a The Doors song.
20:21:15 <_jgr_> It's fine to be strange/weird, but doing so in a way that deliberately hinders everyone else is not very helpeful
20:39:02 <andythenorth> should we reticulate more splines?
20:41:19 <belajalilija> Recalculating splinessss
20:54:20 <andythenorth> liquid cooling the £599 laptop gets 90% of the single core benchmark that my £3200 laptop gets
20:54:33 <andythenorth> that's quite remarkable, and it's "just a phone chip"
21:13:36 <squirejames> However I dare say that overclocking a chip to that extent maaasssively narks its lifespan
21:36:16 <belajalilija> asking this everywhere because im not sure where would be best
21:36:16 <belajalilija> does anyone know of a way or a tool to search multiple .py files at once, rather than me opening like 50 of the things and doing the search feature in each one?
21:44:55 <peter1138> Or an editor like VS Codium that has project search.
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21:46:21 <fairyflossy> notepad++ has "search in directory" (and subdirectories) that can be filtered to specific filetypes
21:47:03 <fairyflossy> Find in Files, is actually what it's called
21:47:42 <andythenorth> Windows must have a 'find in content' tool, that can be scoped to a folder
21:48:03 <andythenorth> oh, I should read, it was answered already :P
21:51:33 <squirejames> I suggested the same Fairy 🙂
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