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02:45:45 <jfkuayue> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1474235551162040545/Screenshot_2026-02-19-02-19-52-63_de89569fcedd2ee7e089530771d25907.jpg?ex=69991c59&is=6997cad9&hm=b2b312a5548451ef82519e04e3b6b3ff4811dd5a58a6e99a9540f6a571f3d676&
02:45:52 <jfkuayue> Should make this andy-available
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02:56:02 <belajalilija> What
02:57:30 <reldred> Give him some space, he’s going through a rough spot atm
02:58:40 <belajalilija> No, please do start contacting him in the only channel he makes himself available in
02:58:44 <belajalilija> What could go wrong
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05:05:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/de3fa9ada65a77976ac15204e483f75a7302030f
05:05:01 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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08:01:46 <_zephyris> Let's give him some love ❤️
08:17:45 <andythenorth_> Mostly I just need to not embroil myself in arguments :|
08:18:31 <andythenorth_> I have perfectionist tendencies, plus a disregard of current norms if I think they”re wrong
08:19:28 <andythenorth_> Add those to “never back down” as a learnt behaviour….not a good outcome
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09:01:12 <peter1138> Can we remove ScriptRoad's ROADTYPE_ROAD and ROADTYPE_TRAM values?
09:01:57 <peter1138> Or has it been subverted into a RoadTramType selector?
09:03:28 <peter1138> Context: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=92704
09:06:39 <pickpacket> wait... are zeppelins different from other "planes"?
09:07:59 <peter1138> Yes. There's a zeppelin disaster.
09:08:54 <andythenorth_> Zellepins
09:09:13 <LordAro> peter1138: interesting
09:15:19 <xarick> hi
09:15:51 <andythenorth_> Unsure what this could be https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1278187#p1278187
09:17:56 <andythenorth_> Not many changes since 5.1.1 https://github.com/andythenorth/firs/commits?author=andythenorth
09:18:25 <andythenorth_> Maybe RVG is depending on cargo classes 🤷‍♂️
09:23:12 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1474335573295628394/image.png?ex=69997980&is=69982800&hm=ae0d54fcf4de26fcab94625e619616643cee463d15502ef14c56fa4d808aed87&
09:23:12 <xarick> gonna load all these newgrfs
09:25:38 <peter1138> Now that andythenorth_ can't reply I'm posting in the FIRS thread...
09:28:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #15318: [Bug]: Nonsensical error message when trying to send aircraft to hanger with no usable airports https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/15318
09:31:19 <andythenorth_> Oof I’ve outsourced support 🙃
09:31:26 <andythenorth_> Life goal achieved
09:32:42 <reldred> hah, neither issue really seems like anything new, RVG breaking any time a grf updates, building ports/wharfs/etc. being weird. Nothing new under the sun.
09:33:12 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1474338087919292437/image.png?ex=69997bd8&is=69982a58&hm=c4b68793783f62eea057f71aea427a50a871b9a03f6bfb7bea48bc55c934b3e5&
09:33:12 <xarick> WormAI doesn't like these newgrfs
09:35:17 <andythenorth_> GS chasing grf is a moving target
09:35:34 <andythenorth_> Unless it’s an integrated compile like FIRS GS
09:35:56 <andythenorth_> Can GS read badges? 👀
09:39:31 <andythenorth_> Could move / replace all the town effect cargo stuff
09:40:03 <andythenorth_> We could have openttd add badges if the town effect bits are set on a cargo
09:40:34 <andythenorth_> That might pump prime enough for mod authors to use them
10:06:02 <xarick> oh, it's not a WormAI crash, it's a me editing WormAI leaving it in a crashable state
10:31:47 <xarick> ah... the beauty of NewGRFs
10:32:24 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1474352984472158290/image.png?ex=699989b7&is=69983837&hm=4376d4bcb4649128b5ce6cf3bc2f469fad90e77d29a7942399f578fd95a080f1&
10:32:24 <xarick> the default cargo is engineering supplies
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11:59:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15313: Codechange: improve filter parameter name, add documentation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15313#pullrequestreview-3831686858
12:07:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #15319: Codechange: use scoped enums in industry windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15319
12:09:59 <peter1138> > /home/runner/work/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/src/industry_gui.cpp:$: warning: End of list marker found without any preceding list items
12:10:04 <peter1138> Well that's ... uh
12:23:16 <LordAro> '..' line 811?
12:26:02 <peter1138> Thanks.
12:26:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #15319: Codechange: use scoped enums in industry windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15319
12:43:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #15315: Codechange: document missing parameters and return values https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15315#pullrequestreview-3831842121
12:48:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15317: Codechange: document more parameters and return types https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15317#pullrequestreview-3831868014
12:55:57 <LordAro> wait, that was right?
12:56:03 <LordAro> was a complete guess
13:03:18 <peter1138> Apparently so.
14:45:41 <andythenorth_> Lunch?
14:45:49 <andythenorth_> I had sea bass
15:13:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15313: Codechange: improve filter parameter name, add documentation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15313
15:14:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15317: Codechange: document more parameters and return types https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15317
15:14:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15312: Codechange: Fix all doxygen warnings related to train.h file. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15312
15:16:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15315: Codechange: document missing parameters and return values https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15315
15:21:05 <andythenorth_> Hmm
15:21:29 <andythenorth_> Horse vehicle generations are 30 year span
15:21:50 <andythenorth_> Considering a North American grf with 25 year spans
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15:30:50 <talltyler> North American passenger trains are forced to have 50-year lifespans these days... 🙂
15:40:09 <xarick> what is the preferrable EOL for .nut files and encoding
15:40:44 <xarick> CR LF, UTF-8, Unix, ANSI... choochoo has all of them
15:41:00 <LordAro> then the obvious answer is "it doesn't matter"
15:41:19 <LordAro> though i'd imagine anything other than ANSI/UTF-8 would have a bad time
15:42:11 <xarick> he also mixing 4 spaces and tabs
15:42:27 <LordAro> the horror
15:43:01 <xarick> hmm well i want to make a PR, just not sure what style I go with
15:43:12 <xarick> PR @ choochoo repository
15:43:19 <LordAro> whichever is used where you're editing
15:43:46 <LordAro> but usually it means the author doesn't care so it probably doesn't matter
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16:05:16 <xarick> oh, choochoo uses the £ symbol in some files, is this ANSI or UTF-8?
16:06:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15320: Codechange: improve some pathfinder documentation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15320
16:15:03 <LordAro> xarick: that'll be the difference, it's not ANSI
16:16:18 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1474439530487746640/image.png?ex=6999da51&is=699888d1&hm=8565ccc69b20e68922b2a6933e3383624b8734f0b02c1733265b61c2eac0111a&
16:16:18 <xarick> UTF-8 didn't work
16:16:52 <LordAro> *whatever conversion you used didn't work
16:17:01 <LordAro> £ is usually UTF-8, but might be cp-1252
16:17:09 <LordAro> and none of this is anything you understand, so stop worrying about it
16:18:26 <xarick> i used Notepad++
16:18:35 <xarick> Convert ANSI to UTF-8
16:18:56 <mmtunligit> hes compromised
16:28:33 <xarick> nop, only ANSI prints the correct £
16:28:43 <xarick> tried Windows-1252
16:35:04 <andythenorth_> We have industry badges?
16:35:21 <andythenorth_> (Am on phone, hard to check)
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16:36:47 <brickblock19280> Yes
16:36:51 <brickblock19280> Idk why tho
16:37:54 <brickblock19280> Only really useful for tiles to work with industries from what I can tell
16:39:45 <andythenorth_> I don’t see industry badges in grf wiki
16:40:09 <brickblock19280> I saw them in the nml one
16:41:43 <andythenorth_> If script could read badges…
16:42:18 <andythenorth_> Hmm…also if the grf (action 14) could declare badges
16:46:35 <andythenorth_> Might be the missing piece for economy GS
16:53:40 <andythenorth_> Maybe I just add some to FIRS and see what happens
16:55:02 <andythenorth_> firs/steel_mill
16:55:40 <andythenorth_> maybe firs/industry_type/steel_mill
16:56:05 <andythenorth_> Or firs_industry_type/steel_mill
16:56:23 <andythenorth_> Dunno, string schemes eh 🙂
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17:05:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #15315: Codechange: document missing parameters and return values https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15315#pullrequestreview-3833185615
17:05:57 <peter1138> mnnmthi
17:06:06 <peter1138> hm
17:07:54 <andythenorth_> more reusable would be: industry_type/steel_mill
17:08:21 <andythenorth_> And grf/firs and firs/version
17:09:54 <andythenorth_> Wonder what squirrel string handling is like
17:10:42 <andythenorth_> GSIndustry.ListBadges, then parse the result? Or GSIndustry.HasBadge()
17:24:13 <andythenorth_> Ho
17:24:43 <andythenorth_> I could expose the FIRS economy parameter setting on the industry instance also
17:24:55 <andythenorth_> Side channel abuses :/
18:00:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #15315: Codechange: document missing parameters and return values https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15315
18:11:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15319: Codechange: use scoped enums in industry windows https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15319#pullrequestreview-3833537685
19:30:04 <xarick> I don't know what a badge is, but I'm interested in something from LinkGraph, expose station supply per month for AIs
19:39:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15321: Codechange: add parameter and return documentation the Squirrel wrappers https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15321
19:59:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 opened pull request #15322: Codechange: Make some documentation comments recognised by doxygen. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15322
20:36:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #15322: Codechange: Make some documentation comments recognised by doxygen. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15322#pullrequestreview-3834054237
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21:11:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15323: Codechange: improve code style and documentation for TGP https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15323
21:11:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #15324: Codechange: document return types and parameters https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15324
21:12:42 <jfkuayue> mnnmthi
21:50:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 updated pull request #15322: Codechange: Make some documentation comments recognised by doxygen. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15322
21:51:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #15323: Codechange: improve code style and documentation for TGP https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15323#pullrequestreview-3834354018
21:58:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15323: Codechange: improve code style and documentation for TGP https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15323
22:28:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #15323: Codechange: improve code style and documentation for TGP https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15323
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22:29:22 <keimfrei> Greetings, short question. Is it possible to "pre-enter" the company name and manager name so that they appear automatically when the game starts without having to enter them again? Similar to player colors and portraits.
22:31:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #15322: Codechange: Make some documentation comments recognised by doxygen. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/15322#pullrequestreview-3834484141
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