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00:15:01 <dwfreed> peter1138: 8
00:16:12 <peter1138> No, I didn't want that window :)
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00:30:44 <_jgr_> As typing in the wrong window goes, that's really not that bad 😛
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00:31:52 <peter1138> It was the correct window, just the wrong key strokes.
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04:30:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] AyushAnand413 commented on issue #14666: [Bug]: Train and road depots are maintenance free but ship depots are not https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14666
04:38:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/632ab6a4e51bb3cdab12f77798dadf0d741f697f
04:38:38 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
04:40:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on issue #14666: [Bug]: Train and road depots are maintenance free but ship depots are not https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14666
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06:26:37 <andythenorth[d]> oops, read suggestions forum
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06:56:44 <LordAro> did you find anything?
07:20:24 <jessicathegunlady> Forum?
07:20:48 <LordAro> ...how far we've fallen
07:21:47 <jessicathegunlady> Pfff-
07:22:34 <dwfreed> the few openttd forum posts I've read seem okay, but most forums these days quickly turn into cesspools
07:22:44 <jessicathegunlady> Think I know where Andy means. Just wanted to check my sanity.
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07:52:59 <andythenorth[d]> it was actually the resurgence of the "vanilla should die, everyone should switch to JGRPP" argument that made me grumpy
07:53:18 <andythenorth[d]> it's a moronic argument, without in any way calling anyone personally a moron
08:17:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/4f16de09e7ed6163ff84a415f26d5a373d0b3f24
08:17:54 <DorpsGek> - Add: summary for Q3 of 2025 (by OpenTTD Survey)
08:37:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
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08:53:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
09:03:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] tabytac commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
09:10:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
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09:19:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
09:56:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] metablaster commented on issue #14666: [Bug]: Train and road depots are maintenance free but ship depots are not https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14666
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10:08:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #13303: Change: Implement side-by-side font cache, allowing use of multiple fonts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13303#pullrequestreview-3157089125
10:08:43 <LordAro> i wrote that weeks ago, but forgot to push send
10:28:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Rito13 commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
10:34:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #13303: Change: Implement side-by-side font cache, allowing use of multiple fonts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13303#pullrequestreview-3288489088
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11:08:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] dependabot[bot] opened pull request #47: Upgrade: bump the actions group with 2 updates https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/47
11:10:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] LordAro approved pull request #47: Upgrade: bump the actions group with 2 updates https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/47#pullrequestreview-3288606450
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11:49:15 <_glx_> Hmm another repo requiring improved dorpsgek config
11:53:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] glx22 merged pull request #47: Upgrade: bump the actions group with 2 updates https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/47
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12:00:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] KajiKaede commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
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12:19:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
12:31:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] KajiKaede commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
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14:07:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] glx22 opened pull request #48: Fix: Don't announce dependabot PRs https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/48
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14:22:46 <peter1138> Stupid question, why is desirable not to announce them>
14:22:48 <peter1138> +it
14:23:06 <LordAro> they do tend to get forgotten...
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15:00:23 <truebrain> People got really upset when 20 repos announced their updates really loudly every month 😛
15:01:13 <truebrain> In fairness, now they are grouped it is a lot better
15:01:15 <_glx_> and it used to be 1 PR per update
15:01:25 <truebrain> When it was 1 PR per dependency ..... it was even worse
15:01:31 <truebrain> 20 times 20 😛
15:02:48 <_glx_> even when it's announced we often forget them
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15:10:13 <truebrain> Nobody cares about poor dependabot
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16:41:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13303: Change: Implement side-by-side font cache, allowing use of multiple fonts. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13303
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16:42:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14466: Change: Add Icon fontcache, to allow various icons to be embedded in strings. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14466
16:46:31 <peter1138> Hmm.
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17:15:29 <andythenorth[d]> what if we released weekly?
17:16:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] KajiKaede commented on discussion #14688: New Player Introduction Improvements https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14688
17:21:05 <ahyangyi> andythenorth[d]: We already have a nightly build, don't we?
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17:32:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #14466: Change: Add Icon fontcache, to allow various icons to be embedded in strings. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14466#pullrequestreview-3290271947
17:40:15 <andythenorth[d]> doesn't count, not a release https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1275617#p1275617
17:45:22 <peter1138> No point dwelling on it.
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17:46:58 <ahyangyi> +1
17:53:52 <andythenorth[d]> more badges?
17:54:14 <andythenorth[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1423005100540035183/image.png?ex=68debc46&is=68dd6ac6&hm=b40ec130761524e8b74a60087d4b187ae203b87d0a01c3b38b34576e9eb930e4&
17:54:14 <andythenorth[d]> not sure what I'd draw for some of them
17:54:59 <andythenorth[d]> the ones with sprites are for wagons, and may include random recolours
17:55:13 <andythenorth[d]> the others are hand drawn actual liveries, and aren't always consistent
17:56:08 <andythenorth[d]> I could draw some sort of flag rect thing
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18:27:42 <talltyler> NSE flag!
18:29:33 <andythenorth[d]> troll 🙂
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18:50:21 <peter1138> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=92470&start=20 Are they alright?
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19:04:01 <ahyangyi> The messages are bit scrambled, but considering that ChillCore is the author of Chill's patch pack which is also part of JGRPP, I think I can guess their good intentions.
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19:06:58 <peter1138> What, making 7 incoherent posts in a row?
19:07:26 <_jgr_> "Also part of JGRPP" is stretching things a little
19:09:29 <ahyangyi> I apologize 🙁
19:09:34 <_jgr_> Not to worry
19:12:09 <andythenorth[d]> oof
19:12:17 <andythenorth[d]> I am going to only talk to the robot, not people
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19:21:57 <talltyler> We are people here though 🙂
19:22:11 <talltyler> I am careful about which people I talk to, but the right people are infinitely better than robots
19:25:06 <jessicathegunlady> Andy goes off to the middle of the woods, never to be heard from again, with their only companionship being ChatGPT.
19:33:50 <peter1138> Peace.
19:41:52 <andythenorth[d]> and quiet
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20:19:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] zephyris opened pull request #393: Add: Support for Action5 type 1B bridge deck overlays https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/393
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20:38:23 <locosage> shouldn't it be this->handlers here? <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/632ab6a4e51bb3cdab12f77798dadf0d741f697f/src/network/network_crypto.cpp#L366-L367>
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21:00:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/nml] PeterN approved pull request #393: Add: Support for Action5 type 1B bridge deck overlays https://github.com/OpenTTD/nml/pull/393#pullrequestreview-3291106006
21:04:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14689: Codechange: Use find/find_if to find rail/road types by label. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14689
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22:06:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] dependabot[bot] opened pull request #14690: Bump the actions group with 3 updates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14690
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22:48:54 <peter1138> Stupid bots, unwilling to follow our PR template and our commit guidelines...
23:01:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #14690: Bump the actions group with 3 updates https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14690
23:14:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #14691: Codechange: Add prefix to dependabot commits https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14691
23:20:40 <dwfreed> locosage: any unambiguous reference to a member variable or function has an implicit this->
23:21:17 <dwfreed> it seems like most C++ devs are shifting away from explicit this-> because it's really unnecessary
23:21:18 <locosage> yeah, but coding style
23:22:33 <locosage> "Own members of classes should always be referenced using "this->""
23:23:44 <peter1138> Sometimes it gets missed, and of course because it's valid I don't think there's any tooling to 'validate' it.
23:30:33 <locosage> this line feels pretty dangerous <https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/master/src/saveload/afterload.cpp#L1646>
23:30:55 <dwfreed> peter1138: you can make a custom clang-tidy check to do it, apparently: https://oleksandrkvl.github.io/2020/10/16/enforce-this-style-check.html
23:31:58 <locosage> though I couldn't find a way to trigger it without modifying the code it's quite possible that at some conditions or some possible changes it will cause quite a tricky desync error
23:42:05 <peter1138> dwfreed, seems to actually require modifying and building a custom clang-tidy.
23:44:45 <_glx_> if loading a save from the server it's expected for styles to be correct
23:45:29 <peter1138> (And currently they always are.)
23:47:27 <peter1138> On the other hand, a random non-savegame-version-gated random in afterload is probably a bad idea generally.
23:48:06 <locosage> I have an idea how to break it...
23:49:11 <peter1138> You can break anything you like if you change code to break it.
23:49:19 <_glx_> only a modified client lying about it's version could break it
23:50:16 <locosage> maybe, but if it breaks vanilla server it's still bad
23:50:46 <_glx_> it won't break the server, the modified client will most likely desync
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