IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2025-07-16
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04:46:54 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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09:23:07 <Yu> Is it possible that not a single oil platform will appear between 1950 and 2010?
09:24:24 <LordAro> I think they start appearing around 1980
09:24:38 <LordAro> But it is random, so in theory you might not get any
09:25:36 <peter1138[d]> They also only spawn near the edge of map, so hopefully you have some ocean there.
09:26:44 <Yu> yes, yes, wet edges. all four. in the last beta they spawned very briskly - more than 20 pieces. And now just 0.
09:30:56 <LordAro> there's not a huge amount of space
09:32:11 <peter1138[d]> truebrain: The bulk of the annoying blitters are all the 32bpp SSE anim/noanim variants. They bulk out the duplication that's needed when changing anything.
09:32:28 <Yu> everything is standard. I didn't change anything in the settings.
09:35:08 <peter1138[d]> Except map size 🙂
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09:35:27 <peter1138[d]> 128 x 128 means less water tiles, so less chance of oil rigs.
09:42:24 <peter1138[d]> I mean less water tiles in total, not talking about distance from edge.
09:43:40 <Yu> but in 14.1 in the same amount of water - they appeared in dozens
10:05:45 <Yu> Is it forbidden to carry wood in a boat?
10:07:06 <peter1138[d]> No. Look a the scrollbar.
10:11:26 <dh1> carrying wood in a boat represents like 20% of new zealand's economy
10:11:54 <Yu> I ran a test for oil. Shouldn't it appear in the same water?
10:12:30 <Yu> * In such a quantity of water.
12:06:19 <peter1138[d]> Urgh, why can't I have default generic parameters in C# 😦
12:08:16 <pickpacket> peter1138[d]: because God hates you?
12:19:25 <peter1138[d]> Oh wow, so showing path reservations defaults to "on" now? That's basically a debug tool in my eyes.
12:26:16 <LordAro> when did that happen?
12:26:21 <LordAro> that doesn't seem right, agreed
12:27:28 <peter1138[d]> I'm guessing long ago.
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12:47:27 <peter1138[d]> On by default means this patch to make them more visible, as is often requested, is a bit awkward...
12:51:32 <talltyler> There was a discussion where we voted on which settings to change. I disagreed with path reservations but that’s what the voters wanted. 🤷
12:51:53 <peter1138[d]> I provided the link 😉
12:55:50 <talltyler> Oh, I only read the commit link
13:03:24 <peter1138[d]> Maybe this needs Show Path Reservations: No, Subtle, or Contrast. But... Meh, that makes things complified.
13:34:25 <audigex> peter1138[d]: Complicated but sensible IMO
13:34:27 <emperorjake> I've said it before and I'll say it again, show path reservations needs to be more easily accessible, not buried in the settings. It should be in the same category as loading indicators, for example.
13:35:06 <audigex> Maybe even in the transparency menu, which also fits nicely with the 3 options (visible, translucent, hidden)
13:36:06 <audigex> Default to translucent grey like we have now, let people either hide them for screenshots (or preference) or make them super visible for debugging problems
13:37:32 <_glx_> the visibility issue was mostly for maglev
13:46:20 <peter1138[d]> Maglev, monorail, and many other addon tracks that do things differently.
14:35:06 <peter1138[d]> Well, the state is reversed, so reservations are shown when transparency is set on. Which is confusing, but...
14:49:05 <audigex> peter1138[d]: I think that makes perfect sense
14:49:05 <audigex> If you add in the additional button underneath for a "translucent" option like trees etc have, which shows the current reservations instead of the bright red, I'd say that's perfect
14:49:38 <peter1138[d]> I don't really want to add two ways to draw reservations.
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15:19:43 <andythenorth> I am not supported 😛
15:50:49 <cu-kai> @ path reservations being on by default - when i first played the game and discovered that setting, i turned it on immediately. i did notice that in recent builds it's by default and assumed that was desired.
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16:17:30 <peter1138[d]> Well, it was intended. I don't think it's desirable though.
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19:44:06 <truebrain> peter1138[d]: Why don't we just remove the noanim, or those SSEs that nobody actually uses? I mean, to noanim was always a bit weird; more a: "TrueBrain can't get the anim performant, so he left the noanim behind" kinda thing 😛
19:45:48 <truebrain> ssse3 doesn't even show up in any survey report even
19:46:20 <truebrain> or any non-anim sse for that matter
19:50:20 <_jgr_> Using SSE for the palette animation if OpenGL isn't available/enabled gives a reasonable speedup, but the actual sprite blitting is not meaningfully better in the SSE variants
19:50:57 <truebrain> looking at the survey, only keeping the sse2-anim and sse4-anim is all we need. I can't find any other meaningful usage of the sse blitters
19:54:20 <truebrain> I would guess ssse3 is never auto-selected for one reason or the other, and nobody would manually select it
20:39:13 <michi_cc> SSE4 turned adult, and SSSE3 is just a couple years older or so. The amount of SSSE3-but-not-SSE4 CPUs is probably minimal by now.
20:45:29 <truebrain> yeah, the SSSE3 -> SSE4 was quick
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21:10:59 <peter1138[d]> _jgr_: Might be in part where we've modified things over time.
21:15:41 <peter1138[d]> So, how can we offload to a GPU? I dunno what the current terminology is for letting the GPU hold lists of vertices and textures.
21:16:52 <peter1138[d]> And I wonder what happened to that direct 3d patch that someone worked on
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22:44:13 <andythenorth> why am I awake still?
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