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01:28:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14214: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet instead of Vector to record received content types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14214
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03:10:48 <pickpacket> LordAro: make a train for the game called "Deadline" and it doesn't take any wagons or cargo, but is fast as lightning
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04:47:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/a46b885640b7e4f2b229fdc386a70c572a5b44c8
04:47:24 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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06:59:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14214: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet instead of Vector to record received content types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14214
07:00:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14213: Codefix: always add space between * and const for consistency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14213#issuecomment-2850085367
07:02:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #14214: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet instead of Vector to record received content types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14214#pullrequestreview-2813950132
07:12:32 <peter1138[d]> Is there a "this type is pool item" concept?
07:18:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/survey-web] survey-summary[bot] pushed 1 commits to main https://github.com/OpenTTD/survey-web/commit/b46f69ac1af405f4cdd1c3afc0fac24bd63769c5
07:18:36 <DorpsGek> - Add: summary for week 18 of 2025 (by OpenTTD Survey)
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07:55:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14214: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet instead of Vector to record received content types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14214
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09:16:23 <peter1138[d]> Oops, stations are broken.
09:17:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215
09:42:24 <xarick> oh no, you no longer like vectors
09:45:39 <peter1138> It's an adapter that uses vector underneath.
09:46:04 <peter1138> It avoids having to remember the incantion for ::lower_bound() all over place.
10:00:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215#issuecomment-2850504333
10:05:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215#issuecomment-2850517653
10:07:36 <peter1138> Okay, d030d17bd6e84e0f311a24e0a354150f972b90e8 is what broke stations.
10:12:27 <xarick> how do i print the values of every class member
10:12:31 <xarick> in squirrel
10:13:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened issue #14216: [Bug]: Stations not rendering correctly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14216
10:23:48 <peter1138> LordAro, so, lower-case it all?
10:25:30 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368896381598568478/image.png?ex=6819e39a&is=6818921a&hm=de744990640e95de10d32e90b7fcf189fb41bad6ea193a4c38cc7c86c63960dd&
10:25:30 <xarick> is this supposed to fail?
10:26:31 <xarick> i wanna print all member values
10:26:34 <xarick> for debugging
10:31:54 <_glx_> `foreach` is the usual way to do it
10:33:14 <_glx_> But maybe `AirRoute` overloads the metamethod
10:33:51 <_glx_> Or a recent change broke things
10:38:49 <LordAro> peter1138: probably
10:39:39 <peter1138> Ok.
10:40:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215
10:47:34 <peter1138> Next on my commits is `StationList`, which stores `Station *` but is sorted by `Station::index`.
10:47:44 <peter1138> Hence the PoolItem question earlier :)
10:49:06 <peter1138> Let's see...
10:51:14 <_glx_> `typeid` exists
10:52:27 <peter1138> Projections exist.
10:54:01 <peter1138> I'm dumb.
10:54:34 <peter1138> I already allowed a comparator.
11:21:41 <xarick> how do i achieve similar results
11:22:14 <xarick> wanna try debug this thing
11:23:17 <xarick> `foreach (member, val in this) {` also failed
11:23:34 <xarick> _nexti failed
11:24:22 <peter1138> Does it work in 14.0?
11:24:33 <peter1138> Or whatever the stable version is :D
11:24:39 <peter1138> 14.x...
11:26:34 <xarick> sqvm.cpp:528
11:27:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14217: Codechange: Turn _grow_town_result into a local variable in GrowTownAtRoad. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14217
11:32:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14217: Codechange: Turn _grow_town_result into a local variable in GrowTownAtRoad. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14217#pullrequestreview-2814517782
11:41:25 <_glx_> Code seems to imply `foreach` for an instance uses the `_nexti` metamethod
11:42:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #14213: Codefix: always add space between * and const for consistency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14213#issuecomment-2850728047
11:46:03 <_glx_> A `_nexti` method seems to exist too, else the error would be `cannot iterate`
11:48:36 <_glx_> Ah no, it fails without an explicit message if `_nexti` doesn't exist
11:49:17 <peter1138> Hmm, all our "FlatMap" style containers access things a bit differently.
11:51:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215#pullrequestreview-2814556092
11:55:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14217: Codechange: Turn _grow_town_result into a local variable in GrowTownAtRoad. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14217
12:00:35 <exceptik> _glx_: not even in errno?
12:25:00 <peter1138[d]> We're not in Cansas any more
12:25:46 <xarick> route is an instance, AirRoute is a class
12:25:54 <xarick> why aren't both classes...
12:26:40 <xarick> maybe there is a different way to achieve the same ... just need to figure out
12:31:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on issue #14216: [Bug]: Stations not rendering correctly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14216
12:42:07 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368930761956134993/image.png?ex=681a039f&is=6818b21f&hm=c16ad872a5877f5f6fb77f53c944c773302c7173729bf7e1a2699fbd24832666&
12:42:07 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368930762543595704/image.png?ex=681a039f&is=6818b21f&hm=609c8dc7952be04ce735bbb1d9598c3c9a1d49bb6a5b2fbfa28f5f41cc648161&
12:42:07 <xarick> this works, kinda...
12:42:56 <xarick> it's printing stuff from AirRouteManager
12:42:59 <xarick> not just AirRoute
12:43:15 <xarick> but the values are not initialized
12:44:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on issue #14216: [Bug]: Stations not rendering correctly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14216
12:46:50 <peter1138> Hmm.
12:47:28 <_glx_> class is the skeleton, instance is the object built following the skeleton, it's OOP 101
12:48:39 <peter1138> auto result = this->DoResolve();
12:48:39 <peter1138> const auto *value = std::get_if<CallbackResult>(&result);
12:48:40 <peter1138> return value != nullptr ? *value : CALLBACK_FAILED;
12:48:51 <peter1138> print value
12:48:52 <peter1138> (const bool) true
12:48:54 <peter1138> Uh?
12:49:06 <peter1138> Compilers eh?
12:49:18 <peter1138> Compiling things and optimising stuff.
12:49:40 <peter1138> Anyway, result is a SGT_CALLBACK with a value of 630.
12:49:54 <peter1138> But the CALLBACK_FAILED is returned.
12:49:56 <peter1138> -the
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12:52:07 <xarick> ::print(member + " = " + route.member);
12:52:37 <xarick> how do I convert "member" into its actual name
12:53:21 <xarick> route.member -> route.m_airport_from -> prints the actual value of route.m_airport_from
12:54:13 <_glx_> you have to implement `_nexti` in the class I think
12:54:32 <peter1138> Hmm, ResolveReal() needs to call Resolve() as well, perhaps?
12:55:26 <peter1138> Hmm, dunno how this works now D
12:55:27 <peter1138> :D
13:00:21 <peter1138> Uh
13:00:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14215: Codechange: Implement basic FlatSet and replace sorted std::vectors or some std::sets. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14215
13:00:54 <peter1138> I just got "invalid email for merge" or something similar to that.
13:06:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14218: Fix #14216, d030d17: RealSpriteGroups referencing CallbackResultSpriteGroups were always treated as callback-failure. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14218
13:14:28 <peter1138> pickpacket, in case you hadn't guessed, the person in your RTS thread holds a massive grudge for some reason.
13:17:38 <xarick> can't seem to do it
13:18:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #14218: Fix #14216, d030d17: RealSpriteGroups referencing CallbackResultSpriteGroups were always treated as callback-failure. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14218#pullrequestreview-2814788154
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13:30:25 <xarick> i need to implement a _get
13:32:05 <xarick> nope
13:33:21 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368943653527097444/image.png?ex=681a0fa0&is=6818be20&hm=d4c2c043d3b666d751dfb5694ec4015bf22f8f0ec755e5db5aaa5142294a02ae&
13:33:21 <xarick> help
13:37:10 <_glx_> foreach(k,v in this.getclass()) {
13:37:10 <_glx_> print(k + ": " + v);
13:37:10 <_glx_> print(" " + this[k]);
13:37:10 <_glx_> }
13:37:16 <_glx_> this seems to work for me
13:38:10 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368944868700717167/image.png?ex=681a10c2&is=6818bf42&hm=7d4d4cd5174ea1a24545dd8b53fd5d867c1c48bafa65304993f65bbe8582bebc&
13:39:25 <xarick> wow
13:40:27 <_glx_> I guess it's possible to add extra filtering to remove useless members
13:42:13 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368945888239812669/image.png?ex=681a11b5&is=6818c035&hm=842ed314c871e258cb255d8e2fc208a8ef01f0ead226af38a1be6358ef7b256d&
13:42:13 <_glx_> like ```
13:42:13 <_glx_> foreach(k,v in this.getclass()) {
13:42:13 <_glx_> if(type(v) == "function") continue;
13:42:13 <_glx_> print(k + ": " + v);
13:42:14 <_glx_> print(" " + this[k]);
13:42:14 <_glx_> }
13:43:11 <xarick> I'm getting stuff from AirRouteManager and not AirRoute
13:44:53 <xarick> ah route.getclass() works
13:46:29 <_glx_> well `class AirRoute extends RouteManager` so `AirRoute` contains all members of `RouteManager`
13:47:19 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368947171528937554/image.png?ex=681a12e7&is=6818c167&hm=9d1b7dac494214c4eee0fea656b71c3e0edf566d514fb4023a71e92bb55fafb6&
13:47:31 <xarick> nice nice work!
13:48:06 <xarick> wish there was a away to filter out AirRouteManager
13:48:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14219: Revert 0853c1979b: Button to toggle showing advanced signal types. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14219
13:49:17 <xarick> what if I don't extend AirRouteManager
13:49:34 <xarick> what could possibly go wrong
13:49:39 <_glx_> I was reading code from v20
13:49:55 <_glx_> so it's not extending AirRouteManager, but RouteManager
13:50:25 <xarick> poor old version i guess
13:51:04 <_glx_> yeah at least 1 year old 🙂
13:51:40 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368948265621520435/image.png?ex=681a13ec&is=6818c26c&hm=4fb9c41fb233ed09dd8deddff38a0a0c29dafc553a6df402a6f99f9b0fe54f48&
13:51:40 <xarick> nice
13:51:49 <xarick> i can remove the extend stuff
13:55:54 <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368949330039406764/image.png?ex=681a14ea&is=6818c36a&hm=38d99e367bd87d64a56d455f869d3a99d68b9eeb585803c7f6709b5823af5988&
13:55:54 <_glx_> foreach(k,v in this.getclass()) {
13:55:54 <_glx_> if (this.getclass().parent && k in this.getclass().parent) continue;
13:55:54 <_glx_> // if(type(v) == "function") continue;
13:55:54 <_glx_> print(k + ": " + v);
13:55:56 <_glx_> print(" " + this[k]);
13:55:56 <_glx_> }
13:56:08 <_glx_> different filtering, only shows own members
13:56:35 <xarick> wow
13:57:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220
13:59:38 <_glx_> oh pitchforks incomming
13:59:44 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368950292368064565/image.png?ex=681a15cf&is=6818c44f&hm=76510ee65ec4c6f84a77e911c117f2239fd87b89390bf831c0741a8be3bda290&
13:59:44 <xarick> hmm nope that only got the base
14:00:00 <xarick> AirRouteManager
14:02:08 <xarick> that intro looks quite.... dull
14:02:38 <pickpacket> peter1138: which one of them?
14:03:03 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368951131148910634/440400623-252a3fed-14f5-462a-9a23-933aadcbb02e.png?ex=681a1697&is=6818c517&hm=36d3c67674c415eb833fc1e316e05eb35c16ee19e9b157f03713e9cd9ffc8287&
14:04:06 <xarick> maybe a single column, then place that on the left side
14:04:12 <xarick> of the screen, not centered
14:04:26 <pickpacket> peter1138: the ... one ... with all the ... ellipsis?
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14:09:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2851137585
14:10:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220
14:10:52 <peter1138> pickpacket, no.
14:13:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 merged pull request #14218: Fix #14216, d030d17: RealSpriteGroups referencing CallbackResultSpriteGroups were always treated as callback-failure. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14218
14:13:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 closed issue #14216: [Bug]: Stations not rendering correctly. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14216
14:23:26 <xarick> 64 commits in 2 days
14:23:37 <pickpacket> peter1138: then..?
14:23:59 <pickpacket> and holds a grudge against whom?
14:28:08 <xarick> looks like I don't need "extends" for anything...
14:28:16 <xarick> I fail at understanding their purpose
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14:32:09 <_glx_> that's also OOP 101
14:32:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2851208146
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14:44:45 <peter1138[d]> I guess "new game" and "play heightmap" are more alike that "play scenario", as they use the newgame settings, instead of settings from elsewhere.
14:44:46 <peter1138[d]> Hmm
14:51:27 <talltyler> "Play Scenario" is most like "Load Game"
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14:52:24 <peter1138[d]> In functionality, yes, but in expecations, no.
14:52:35 <peter1138[d]> You are starting a new game, it's just set up in a specific way already.
14:54:14 <frosch123> Yes play height map leads to a modified mapgen window
14:55:04 <peter1138[d]> I should be possible for the mapgen window to combine both, and maybe use tabs to switch between "random terrain" and "heightmap terrain"
14:55:41 <peter1138[d]> (But also fitting in "play scenario" would be nice, but that doesn't need... well, basically anything of the others.)
14:56:21 <_zephyris> I wouldn't try to unify scenarios with heightmap or magen, just too different.
14:56:51 <_zephyris> Tabs for mapgen vs heightmap import works well
14:57:05 <talltyler> Tabs everywhere! \o/
14:57:08 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/uploads/en/Development/Design%20Drafts/Newgame%20draft.png quite out of scope of that pr
14:57:14 <peter1138[d]> Requires a modified "file" window that might not look like a file window 🙂
14:57:58 <peter1138[d]> A dark window, that's controversial alone 🙂
14:59:00 <peter1138[d]> Now I wonder if that style of tab is better than what Game Options does.
14:59:04 <frosch123> I also considered groupboxes for single player vs multi player, but half of the buttons are single player
14:59:36 <peter1138[d]> Multiplayer is a different "work flow" really.
14:59:44 <peter1138[d]> (Although it does have the "start new game" option in it)
15:00:28 <frosch123> Anyhow, if we can get some big icons for the top 6 buttons, everyone is happy?
15:00:57 <peter1138[d]> I don't know if icons would help, or make sense?
15:01:04 <frosch123> peter1138[d]: Yes, but it needs a player name in addition
15:01:32 <peter1138[d]> frosch123: Is this your design or something random on the Wiki?
15:02:34 <frosch123> I think it's from #5147
15:02:53 <frosch123> The picture may be from planetmaker
15:04:36 <frosch123> Ah, it's from #3826
15:06:05 <peter1138[d]> Nicely old 🙂
15:11:53 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, the extra inset panel does mean more space is used by padding.
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15:17:25 <xarick> how do I detect an instance is an AIList?
15:17:50 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368969950001365143/image.png?ex=681a281e&is=6818d69e&hm=d41255df166ca433104cb2170055d12d8bf74b32550ff91fecc9e255e7f4825b&
15:17:50 <_glx_> `instanceof`
15:18:01 <xarick> oh, i see, nice
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15:57:48 <xarick> 3.2 doesn't change much <https://github.com/albertodemichelis/squirrel/blob/master/squirrel/sqvm.cpp#L564>
15:58:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] hpiirai commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2851467188
16:08:42 <xarick> there's some fixes not present in openttd's squirrel
16:09:23 <xarick> <https://github.com/albertodemichelis/squirrel/commit/cbfbb60d949a6b656419029a91705e2a49a7c326>
16:09:34 <xarick> openttd has the wrong WEAKERF
16:10:21 <_glx_> yes, and it's dead code
16:11:09 <_glx_> it's inside `#ifdef _DEBUG_DUMP` and we don't define it
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16:42:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2851605503
16:45:03 <truebrain> I so wish I had more time for this game 😄 too many ideas collecting dust 😦 Sad!
16:47:19 <truebrain> but maybe my old drafts inspires _zephyris 🙂
16:49:59 <xarick> Visual Studio -> Edit -> Advanced -> Format Document
16:50:21 <xarick> should I do this for all squirrel files
16:51:51 <LordAro> no
16:55:02 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368994408867037277/image.png?ex=681a3ee5&is=6818ed65&hm=3650281abdd0ce427453cc1509c3fc058a4b5231f238152b00db65fbbfc027bd&
16:55:02 <xarick> I see stuff like this and it drives me crazy
16:55:40 <LordAro> stop looking at it then
17:02:19 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368996243619057785/image.png?ex=681a409b&is=6818ef1b&hm=02f876584ff0a9c2857e3b1a2592e13a62cbbdcc2d4c9c97d660c31e21ea12d3&
17:02:19 <xarick> the Format Document on cases: puts brackets on a new line
17:02:43 <xarick> is that according to coding style
17:04:40 <xarick> nope
17:04:40 <andythenorth> frosch123: is that one of my horrible old designs?
17:04:57 <andythenorth> I had quite a lot, as someone who designs UI for a career, I have some shame about them
17:08:20 <frosch123> It was posted by planetmaker to flyspray.
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17:12:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14221: Codechange: Remove global state from spritelayout processing. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14221
17:18:07 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369000218149912636/game_setup_gui_3f.png?ex=681a444e&is=6818f2ce&hm=9c5244dbf9ce2aac1cfb3c1529019376e9cb7ee7498e6e12f6d49cc86fd5d6d6&
17:18:07 <andythenorth> oof
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17:29:26 <xarick> which one is about case
17:33:57 <xarick> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/cpp-editorconfig-properties?view=vs-2022
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17:43:08 <xarick> hmm not sure
17:45:59 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369007231735173161/image.png?ex=681a4ad6&is=6818f956&hm=c7a6b29edddb3cc8affb9e2291068a176874b6026bee859166aac5cef0bf5ab7&
17:45:59 <xarick> oops, i removed an `extends`
17:46:05 <xarick> now it fails 🙂
17:47:20 <xarick> `class Segment extends DoubleRail` so this one is required
17:48:27 <talltyler> So brown!
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17:54:54 <peter1138> Zone 2 rides, eh?
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18:10:59 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369013524545798314/image.png?ex=681a50b3&is=6818ff33&hm=1d5a716a748287279d44f87a9e3ebe545a90aa7e4e73447891c397031c2e469e&
18:10:59 <peter1138[d]> Heh, borrowing from that earlier design, although no darkening.
18:18:41 <frosch123> Did you try removing the outside padding? I.e. tabs 0px below titlebar
18:18:54 <frosch123> No inset
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19:15:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14221: Codechange: Remove global state from spritelayout processing. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14221
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19:17:53 <peter1138[d]> No, not tried anything really.
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19:19:31 <peter1138[d]> Smooshed up the top is a bit weird.
19:19:45 <peter1138[d]> But removing the extra separate panel might work.
19:23:18 <peter1138[d]> Hmm. nNo.
19:37:08 <xarick> I'm watching weird videos. last time my country was invaded was in 1961, by India, lol
19:37:55 <xarick> I was expecting Spain
19:38:32 <xarick> or France
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19:58:28 <andythenorth> goa?
19:59:26 <xarick> yes
20:01:22 <peter1138[d]> Well.
20:03:49 <xarick> portugal has been saved by the british countless times...
20:03:57 <xarick> it's shameful
20:05:02 <xarick> except on goa
20:05:35 <xarick> turns out the british were also forced out of india, it would be weird if they'd help
20:06:03 <andythenorth> too tired to have a post-colonial discussion 😛
20:06:07 <andythenorth> "it's complicated"
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20:08:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2852212444
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20:15:30 <tabytac> zephyrisviaGitHub: just adding icons for all the buttons (my personal preference vs only some) makes this look muuuuch better than the current layout.
20:15:30 <tabytac> Dont think im qualified enough to talk about having the word mod but i dont mind it.
20:15:30 <tabytac> I saw in TrueBrain's mock up from a few years ago that they had a "Continue Game" button. Obviously this is outside the scope of this PR, but eventually adding something like this would be amazing and so reserving some space for it might be ideal
20:16:19 <frosch123> Question: are scenarios and height maps "mods"?
20:19:40 <frosch123> Maybe "download content" is the right term?
20:22:19 <xarick> does anyone really care for the high score table? it's so meaningless
20:22:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 closed pull request #14213: Codefix: always add space between * and const for consistency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14213
20:26:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14222: Codechange: Access temporary storage only through ResolverObject. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14222
20:29:20 <_zephyris> "content", "add-ons", "extensions", "plugins"...
20:29:23 <_zephyris> "stuff"
20:33:09 <_zephyris> I hope I was clear - Online Content isn't too bad, but it's in my list of things that I would consider tweaking.
20:35:28 <frosch123> I'll post an updated pr tomorrow
20:41:29 <peter1138[d]> Did you know there is no existing window with buttons containing both image and text.
20:41:40 <_zephyris> I suspected that might be the case...
20:41:53 <peter1138[d]> The closest to that is dropdown lists, which basically ignore the widget system (the entire list is one widget.)
20:41:54 <talltyler> Side quest unlocked 😛
20:42:59 <peter1138[d]> Well, IIRC, a WWT_PANEL can be clicked, so composing a "button" should be possible without anything too special.
20:43:21 <peter1138[d]> panel -> horizontal container -> image | text
20:44:10 <_zephyris> On a totally different note, a dummies guide to what's needed for base set builds to get to the cdn would be useful...
20:44:15 <_zephyris> Or rather, a guide for a dummy
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20:49:39 <yiffgirl> andythenorth: oh wow, this looks great
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20:51:48 <digitalfox> xarick: this is a game dev channel
20:51:48 <digitalfox> Lets keep it that way ok?
20:52:44 <peter1138[d]> Conversation police?
20:53:13 <digitalfox> No but as a fellow portuguese, makes no sense talking about that stuff here
20:53:34 <peter1138[d]> And it makes no sense for me to talk about lunch or cycling.
20:54:19 <digitalfox> Those things are not related to war
20:54:21 <peter1138[d]> (The off-topic-ness had already finished.)
20:54:48 <digitalfox> That’s why i deleted
20:54:48 <digitalfox> My bad discord didn’t update
20:55:27 <xarick> was it me?
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21:13:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2852353617
21:19:03 <frosch123> Do you know the intention for muting the titlegame?
21:19:03 <frosch123> I generally mute all games, but why would you want to mute the titlegame but not in-game?
21:20:26 <peter1138[d]> Basically it's "just noise" at that point, I think.
21:20:53 <peter1138[d]> I dunno, it's just something I've seen a bit of.
21:21:01 <_glx_> honk honk ding ding ding ding
21:21:34 <_glx_> then the yate hogan takes off 🙂
21:22:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TheMowgliMan commented on pull request #14220: Change: Remove all buttons form the intro screen, which are already present in the relevant sub windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14220#issuecomment-2852369748
21:26:17 <_zephyris> Mmm, surely buried options rather than main menu buttons
21:26:38 <_zephyris> Though could float to a corner of the screen?
21:27:24 <peter1138[d]> Difficult to find them on the World Generation screen?
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21:30:45 <_zephyris> Possibly solving the wrong problem, should SFX be less intrusive?
21:30:54 <_zephyris> But volume control is easy to find now...
21:31:10 <peter1138[d]> It's several clicks.
21:31:30 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369063983679672370/image.png?ex=681a7fb1&is=68192e31&hm=35041d76e68d6499fe0a94ffcf828f19ed7ff5b18b2b423062b6b22902800271&
21:31:30 <_zephyris> Lol, just looked at the Factorio main menu
21:31:37 <_zephyris> Always a useful geek-oriented reference
21:32:15 <tabytac> wube always kill it with UX and UI
21:32:43 <xarick> how to force a bit to turn 0 even if it's not 1
21:33:06 <peter1138[d]> Uh...
21:33:30 <_zephyris> or with 1?
21:33:49 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369064566042132581/image.png?ex=681a803c&is=68192ebc&hm=4552815d617ecea729d18284895012bf8cb402b2e1111bdffefcf581bfa6ae66&
21:33:50 <_glx_> &=~something
21:34:10 <xarick> ah, but squirrel
21:34:21 <_glx_> should work the same I hpe
21:34:34 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369064757591670944/image.png?ex=681a806a&is=68192eea&hm=ef205a8bc99e5c9010f45da293fb72341a581be4f1e6ee483f46eacdca58b696&
21:34:34 <_zephyris> Well
21:34:47 <xarick> oh, credits
21:34:54 <xarick> openttd needs that
21:35:00 <_zephyris> Meh
21:35:39 <_glx_> ah no it doesn't have &= it seems so val = val & ~somthing
21:36:44 <xarick> this.sleep_longer = this.sleep_longer & ~(1 << AITile.TRANSPORT_ROAD);
21:36:54 <xarick> ok, should work
21:37:42 <xarick> this.sleep_longer = ((built_road_route & 1) == 0).tointeger() << AITile.TRANSPORT_ROAD;
21:37:50 <xarick> madness
21:40:01 <xarick> that doesn't seem right
21:40:18 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369066198423044207/image.png?ex=681a81c1&is=68193041&hm=f269bc233a373e5e7bf966543cd1470e6345a530a3eac38950be53d9dbbb49b6&
21:40:45 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369066312734736524/440528265-d9ff366b-16c1-4a88-bd52-15635c4bc4eb.png?ex=681a81dc&is=6819305c&hm=ef14f620a0b939a4b619cadf19e846b001126c2a4342d14c44234e241eaea77d&
21:40:45 <_zephyris> Looks like this is the most industry standard option:
21:41:43 <xarick> my AIs are gone!
21:42:14 <_zephyris> It's a new game option, not relevant for the main menu
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21:42:54 <peter1138[d]> Sounds like I need to continue that other side-quest of embeddable filtered settings tree...
21:43:09 <xarick> `this.sleep_longer = ((built_road_route & (1 << 0)) == 0).tointeger() << AITile.TRANSPORT_ROAD;` something tells me this is wrong
21:43:17 <_zephyris> There is another problem - scenario editor should fire up a new game window, with newgrf settings etc.
21:43:50 <peter1138[d]> Scenario editor dumping you straight into a blank world, without asking for size, or anything, is a bit jarring.
21:44:03 <_zephyris> Yup
21:44:42 <_zephyris> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369067306583457812/image.png?ex=681a82c9&is=68193149&hm=260d92e2faf38cdf59d8402f4c416d557ab4839c42467a094cf26dd72b9509c0&
21:44:42 <_zephyris> Not having a "New Scenario" option is an odd one too
21:45:13 <xarick> if `((built_road_route & (1 << 0)) == 0).tointeger()` is actually 0, I don't want to remove the other bits on this.sleep_longer
21:45:20 <xarick> how do i fix it
21:45:38 <_zephyris> Well, focuses attention that there should probably be a shared new game w/worldgen, new game w/heightmap and new scenario window.
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21:46:41 <_zephyris> The more I think about entering the scenario editor the weirder it is
21:50:21 <_glx_> xarick: maybe you are trying to pack too much logic in a single line
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22:13:28 <xarick> what is FindLastBit returning?
22:13:45 <xarick> if I have 1111, does that return 0 or 3?
22:16:41 <_glx_> should be 3
22:21:44 <xarick> very ambiguous "Last" meaning
22:24:36 <xarick> what does it return if the value is 0
22:25:34 <_jgr_> Take a look at the documentation of the function, it's described there explictly what the result for 0 is
22:25:49 <xarick> oh, I wasn't looking
22:33:21 <xarick> there's no equivalent in squirrel 😦
22:36:40 <_jgr_> Why do you want to do this in Squirrel?
22:38:10 <xarick> I need to manipulate bits
22:38:51 <peter1138[d]> X-Y
22:39:55 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369081203520704542/image.png?ex=681a8fbb&is=68193e3b&hm=272fbb15ddcf722dfa0a497466dd43c996f0edd43c9fc63103927f36b2da3914&
22:39:55 <xarick> is this good enough?
22:40:32 <_glx_> looks similar to the old version
22:43:56 <_glx_> check https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/8faaedeff9445b78841c145dc8cef24b5d30e2f7
22:46:03 <xarick> wow, that's actually ugly
22:47:06 <_glx_> your version should work too
22:52:45 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369084433763668099/image.png?ex=681a92bd&is=6819413d&hm=bfed14a731cf1a8294e87b794d1f26a06a2380e6c0a69840d1438d2fb96702b3&
22:52:45 <xarick> what about this
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22:58:06 <xarick> oh wait
22:58:17 <xarick> n can't be 0
23:00:30 <xarick> n can be 64
23:02:24 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1369086861066109010/image.png?ex=681a9500&is=68194380&hm=c43be854d645cd244fce42c01ab8a127c47673f2925dcf018f74a9ffca84201b&
23:02:24 <xarick> maybe this is right
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