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03:42:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] CI - Nightly workflow was not successful https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/actions/runs/14817241313
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04:46:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/7d7a6bd32c82839feb31934b009506b934266582
04:46:11 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
06:08:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #14203: Codefix 26a4da9b01: MinGW compilation failure https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14203
06:10:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #14203: Codefix 26a4da9b01: MinGW compilation failure https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14203#pullrequestreview-2813370268
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06:29:23 <pickpacket> I tried to fund a tea factory in one of my games the other day but ran into issues. Three towns were near each other and two of them wouldn't accept it, saying that they already had an industry. I don't really get that since none of them had a tea factory since before. For reference this is the tea factory definition and it substitutes coal mine:
06:29:23 <pickpacket> https://notabug.org/tinyrabbit/tea-tea-deluxe/src/main/03-tea-factory.nml#L95
06:33:57 <pickpacket> All three towns have a tea tree farm (which also substitutes thee coal mine). The town that accepted the factory also has a teahouse (again, coal mine) and a bank. The other two both have oil rigs. One of them also has a teahouse, a bank, a farm, and an iron ore mine. The other one has a sawmill
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07:04:26 <peter1138> Ah, MinGW...
07:07:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14203: Codefix 26a4da9b01: MinGW compilation failure https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14203
07:07:39 <peter1138> pickpacket, you need to set `conflicting_ind_types` for them. It will have inherited the conflicting industries of coal mines.
07:18:01 <peter1138> Hmm, I think because the mono font isn't loaded until you open a textfile window, the survey results for it are not meaningful.
07:20:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] MadeInDutch opened issue #14204: [Bug]: I can't load my PC save files on the Android version. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14204
07:28:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #14204: [Bug]: I can't load my PC save files on the Android version. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14204
07:28:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #14204: [Bug]: I can't load my PC save files on the Android version. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14204
07:33:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] MadeInDutch commented on issue #14204: [Bug]: I can't load my PC save files on the Android version. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/14204
07:36:13 <peter1138> Hmm, Strava gave me a "5th overall" badge, even though my position is 59 out of 6514.
07:36:20 <peter1138> Silly Strava.
07:37:49 <LordAro> peter1138: it does seem to do that sometimes
07:51:19 <peter1138> Oh, and I just realised... that was even my PR.
07:52:01 <peter1138> 15 seconds slow than my PR, and 47 seconds slower than the KOM.
07:52:06 <peter1138> Pom te pom. Silly Strava indeed.
07:52:49 <Rubidium> might it be that it's the 5th fastest of all rides?
07:53:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #14205: Codechange: some char related cleanups https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14205
07:55:03 <Rubidium> (you made yourself)
07:57:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #14205: Codechange: some char related cleanups https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14205#pullrequestreview-2813389486
07:58:01 <peter1138> No, you don't get anything for that :)
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08:43:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14205: Codechange: some char related cleanups https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14205
08:49:08 <pickpacket> peter1138: thanks!
08:59:04 <peter1138> Hmm, LRUCache uses std::unordered_map, but I need std::map.
08:59:11 <peter1138> I'm not sure I can template it.
09:08:12 <peter1138> Or maybe I can.
09:16:06 <michi_cc> You can template anything. It might look ugly as hell, but still... 😛
09:24:59 <xarick> hi
09:25:11 <xarick> is squirrel faster today
09:27:56 <pickpacket> I wish I could filter the bananas newgrf page by name
09:27:58 <peter1138> Hmm. `data` is smaller than `lookup`. I think I may have done something wrong.
09:28:07 <Rubidium> michi_cc: I had quite some trouble trying to get an Invalid/Begin/End constant into the PoolIDs, so I had to fall back to functions. But since you say anything can be done, what did I miss?
09:28:59 * peter1138 tries with a smaller size.
09:30:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #14206: Codefix: StartNewThread uses char* after returning https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14206
09:34:44 <peter1138> Okay, `data` is not smaller, just in the debugger the size is always shown as 256 after a certain size for whatever reason.
09:35:09 <michi_cc> Okay, okay, you can't template *everything*, can't materialize functions or types out of thin air.
09:35:39 <exceptik> Very useful debugger
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09:36:13 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368521592052777080/image.png?ex=6818868d&is=6817350d&hm=0e68d729d3047b63fc8de03a97335a0ed460b1494bf26bf1c88ed8cf5108ad46&
09:36:33 <peter1138> But with a Debug()... `[2025-05-04 10:35:47] dbg: [misc:0] Insert: data: 4096 lookup: 4096`
09:37:01 <peter1138> data is a std::list, but afaik it should know its size...
09:53:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #14206: Codefix: StartNewThread uses char* after returning https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14206
10:04:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207
10:06:33 <peter1138> Bah, I didn't have the frame rate window scrolled. Never mind, it doesn't show much.
10:06:47 <peter1138> The stutter is real though.
10:21:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#issuecomment-2849129528
10:27:45 <peter1138> Hmm, fair.
10:31:50 <peter1138> Okay, the main reason is I don't know how to do that :o
10:32:15 <peter1138> FontState is quite a complex object.
10:37:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #14206: Codefix: StartNewThread uses char* after returning https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14206#pullrequestreview-2813426142
10:41:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#issuecomment-2849137543
10:46:44 <peter1138> Not sure a std::stack has a hash value either.
10:48:01 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1368539660380405820/image.png?ex=68189761&is=681745e1&hm=2e45a42c52278658132ed7a7c910efc4d19a0e3e4564cb671b148935f105a628&
10:48:05 <peter1138> Experimenting...
10:49:59 <xarick> estimated_costs -= canal_costs + clear_costs; is this gonna work the way I think?
10:50:38 <xarick> 50 -= 10 + 30
10:50:49 <xarick> estimated_costs = 40 ?
10:50:59 <xarick> nevermind
10:51:20 <xarick> estimated_costs = 10 or 70?
10:59:18 <Rubidium> peter1138: the std::stack is indeed the main issue for making it a hash. Although... what are we caching exactly? Does that depend on the colours? Or only on font size? If the latter, then we can omit those from the hash and equality tests
11:00:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#issuecomment-2849145738
11:02:30 <peter1138> Basically...
11:04:17 <peter1138> There was a reason it was needed, but I'm not 100% sure.
11:11:49 <peter1138> I thought it was something to do with wrapping, and font/colour changes, but it's confusings, because each LineCacheItem can contain multiple wrapped lines. Hmm.
11:11:55 <peter1138> Confusings.
11:13:04 <andythenorth> me too
11:13:11 <andythenorth> different thing
11:13:15 <andythenorth> more coffee?
11:22:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#pullrequestreview-2813437025
11:22:44 <peter1138> Hmm.
11:30:56 <peter1138> Well.
11:31:39 <peter1138> I've made it work but excluding the stack.
11:32:39 <peter1138> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12728 changed some things that may have affected it.
11:35:04 <peter1138> It's the colour take, so can only affect strings that contain POP/PUSH colour, I guess>
11:36:45 <peter1138> And then, only if its used with different initial colours. But if the initial colour is no longer considered due to #12728...?
11:37:42 <peter1138> Hmm, or if different colours are pushed onto the stack.
11:40:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #14208: Codechange: misc char* related changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14208
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11:58:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14201: Codechange: simplify some squirrel code https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14201#pullrequestreview-2813445292
12:00:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14206: Codefix: StartNewThread uses char* after returning https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14206#pullrequestreview-2813445694
12:04:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #14208: Codechange: misc char* related changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14208
12:05:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14201: Codechange: simplify some squirrel code https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14201
12:05:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14206: Codefix: StartNewThread uses char* after returning https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14206
12:07:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202
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12:24:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14209: Change: Zoom-scroll extra viewports only if the cursor is over the vi… https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14209
12:32:20 <peter1138> Hmm.
12:32:39 <peter1138> |
12:32:39 <peter1138> ~
12:52:20 <peter1138> Right, back to LRU... if the stack state is not important (I'm... not sure) then I have a working std::unordered_map version.
12:53:20 <peter1138> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/f51d6e5a0aaa166c71c57a53f7561e9337765a7b
12:54:07 <peter1138> Hmm, maybe I can do std::hash for LineCacheQuery.
12:54:19 <peter1138> Problem is ordering things and global scope.
12:55:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202#pullrequestreview-2813455543
13:01:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14208: Codechange: misc char* related changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14208#pullrequestreview-2813461451
13:06:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14209: Change: Zoom-scroll extra viewports only if the cursor is over the vi… https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14209#pullrequestreview-2813462704
13:07:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #14209: Change: Zoom-scroll extra viewports only if the cursor is over the vi… https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14209#issuecomment-2849210114
13:09:51 <peter1138> Hmm, works with forward-declarations and some friending.
13:10:53 <peter1138> Well, try compiling first :D
13:11:02 <peter1138> And still, depends if the stack state is needed.
13:16:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14209: Fix: Zoom-scroll extra viewports only if the mouse cursor is over the viewport. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14209
13:24:42 <peter1138> Hmm, do we not implement std::hash for anything else.
13:30:26 <peter1138> I think the stack state does matter anyway. Pom te pom.
13:31:10 <peter1138> Yeah, pop/push affect the layout itself as colours as are part of the layout.
13:31:59 <peter1138> Of course, very few things use pop/push, and they probably always pop/push the same colours, so it appears to work without it.
13:32:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14208: Codechange: misc char* related changes https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14208
13:33:17 <peter1138> I'm not sure std::stack is even needed.
13:34:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
13:43:41 <peter1138> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/9d1ada2ef38cdb4b9ed1b870b52b748162777054
13:43:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
13:50:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202
13:51:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202#pullrequestreview-2813473410
13:52:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202#pullrequestreview-2813473675
13:58:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
14:06:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
14:15:45 <peter1138> Or maybe it's not needed.
14:15:46 <peter1138> Hmm.
14:20:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 approved pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202#pullrequestreview-2813480429
14:20:59 <peter1138> Okay so the initial colour doesn't matter as that's 'encoded' as TC_INVALID.
14:21:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
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14:30:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14188: Add: [BaseSet, NewGRF] Support alternative sprites for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14188
14:34:22 <peter1138> Hmm, actually it doesn't matter does it? As long as the equality test compares the stack, then a hash collision (for something mostly never going to be used) doesn't matter.
14:40:23 <xarick> holy crap, I had no idea arabic was also read from right side to left side...<https://youtu.be/yashATyK95w?t=35>
14:40:41 <xarick> thought it was just written right to left
14:42:19 <peter1138> I mean...
14:42:35 <peter1138> Is reading sentences from the end useful?
14:46:06 <andythenorth> ¿useful is of end sentence
14:51:51 <Rubidium> it is, when Yoda you are
14:59:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #14202: Codechange: replace SQChar with std::string_view (or char) https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14202
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15:08:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN dismissed a review for pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#pullrequestreview-2813437025
15:08:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207
15:08:31 <peter1138> :shrug:
15:12:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #14207: Codechange: Use LRUCache for layouted line cache. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14207#issuecomment-2849270154
15:25:42 <peter1138> Hmm, SSO?
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16:56:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14210: Fix: Closing the Game Options window also closes all textfile windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14210
17:05:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #14211: Docs: Tweak documentation for consistency. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14211
17:23:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14210: Fix: Closing the Game Options window also closes all textfile windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14210#pullrequestreview-2813519268
17:25:55 <peter1138> Heh, copy & pasting an old incorrect comment :D
17:27:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14210: Fix: Closing the Game Options window also closes all textfile windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14210
17:29:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14211: Docs: Tweak documentation for consistency. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14211
17:35:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #14211: Docs: Tweak documentation for consistency. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14211#pullrequestreview-2813522006
17:44:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #14124: Change: Remove extra close buttons from some windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14124
17:48:49 <peter1138> Hmm.
17:49:07 <peter1138> That one is kinda dual-purpose. Redundant close windows, and reset buttons being adjacent to resize buttons.
17:50:10 <peter1138> -windows+buttons.
17:50:29 <peter1138> (Someone will no doubt say that all windows should have an obvious close button, or something...)
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18:04:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 opened pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212
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18:15:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #14210: Fix: Closing the Game Options window also closes all textfile windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14210#pullrequestreview-2813529527
18:17:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212
18:34:27 <frosch123> Lovely, iconv_t is a pointer on osx
18:35:17 <frosch123> Means only c casts are ambiguous enough to work
18:36:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14210: Fix: Closing the Game Options window also closes all textfile windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14210
18:39:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212
18:39:50 <frosch123> Actually no, it's also void* on Linux. So reinterpret_cast it is
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18:58:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 updated pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212
19:16:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #14211: Docs: Tweak documentation for consistency. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14211
19:19:37 <andythenorth> did I miss OpenTTD 15 release yet?
19:19:50 <andythenorth> trying to finish Horse 4 (ish) to sync with it 😛
19:35:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212#pullrequestreview-2813547161
19:35:43 <Rubidium> andythenorth: we all did ;)
19:40:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #14213: Codefix: always add space between * and const for consistency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14213
19:41:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] github-advanced-security[bot] commented on pull request #14212: Codechange: Clean up static variables. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14212#pullrequestreview-2813549218
19:42:32 <peter1138> Hmm.
20:32:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] vitoyucepi commented on discussion #14106: How can I adjust the scaling of different UI elements without affecting the other elements? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/discussions/14106
20:37:04 <LordAro> Rubidium: "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."
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20:55:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #14213: Codefix: always add space between * and const for consistency https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/14213#issuecomment-2849412996
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21:23:27 <peter1138> Hmm, I guess my templated act3 code isn't going to work anymore.
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21:41:42 <peter1138> Or it will, but it's now a bit... fiddly.
21:41:48 <peter1138> Fiddlier.
21:42:31 <peter1138> `auto` is useful, if a bit dangerous.
21:43:27 <peter1138> `1 file changed, 253 insertions(+), 567 deletions(-)`
21:43:29 <peter1138> Eh.
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21:49:00 <peter1138> Well, not very much sense. There was an 'interface' but actually that doesn't do anything, and all the types are wrong.
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