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00:00:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] simi commented on pull request #13502: Fix: use proper unit in settings hover delay text in Czech translation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13502#issuecomment-2705202724



00:15:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] quasimagia opened issue #622: [it_IT] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/622



00:16:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] simi updated pull request #45: Fix numbering in readme.md https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/45



00:17:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] simi commented on pull request #45: Fix numbering in readme.md https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/45#issuecomment-2705225848



00:40:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #622: [it_IT] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/622



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04:44:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/49c760a472758ff9454d7efbb7aadcf481db9cae



04:44:55  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)



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06:31:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LubosKolouch commented on pull request #13502: Fix: use proper unit in settings hover delay text in Czech translation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13502#issuecomment-2705642460



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08:13:07  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755



08:15:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755



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09:06:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] simi commented on pull request #13502: Fix: use proper unit in settings hover delay text in Czech translation https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13502#issuecomment-2705908024



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09:53:09  <xarick> hi



09:53:55  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347507547996688444/image.png?ex=67cc13b2&is=67cac232&hm=a4a5a4f24470247ba3efdcf8f2c5616d73e1530cc4e9b13b6b76dcb58a7fd636&



09:53:55  <xarick> why do the windows get out of place when I turn the monitor off then on ?



09:54:57  <_zephyris> Because windows changes screen resolution when it no longer has a screen attached



09:56:19  <xarick> really? 😦 didn't use to do this with my previous monitor



09:59:27  <_zephyris> IIRC depends on connection type, might be a displayport thing?



10:02:36  <peter1138> DisplayPort seems to do weird things, yes.



10:02:50  <LordAro> can confirm, my monitors do that too



10:03:05  <peter1138> But it's a Windows thing, not OpenTTD.



10:11:58  <xarick> hmm does that mean my previous monitor had a fake displayport... interesting



10:12:12  <LordAro> ...no.



10:14:36  <_zephyris> From a quick google, you can fix it by changing some registry settings: https://superuser.com/questions/267086/how-to-stop-windows-resizing-when-the-monitor-display-channel-is-turned-off-sw



10:15:36  <LordAro> :o



10:16:32  <LordAro> well, possibly



10:19:54  <_zephyris> Different behaviour could happen if monitors sleep vs turn of, who knows what the spec is though



10:27:07  <LordAro> mm, actually driving monitors is one of those "mildly magic" things



10:27:15  <LordAro> built up over 50 something years of legacy



10:28:28  <_zephyris> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7rce6IQDWs



10:34:54  <LordAro> that's a good one



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11:58:30  <xarick> is beta 2 out?



12:11:00  <xarick> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-9H_3CimU what the heck did I watch? video looks so chaotic



12:17:58  <belajalilija> xarick: The music is added later idk why



12:17:58  <belajalilija> But the video itself is part of a series



12:20:42  <belajalilija> https://youtu.be/j6fRCupGH2Q?si=Dx-wrNoV88C5feY-



12:23:36  <belajalilija> https://youtu.be/xw-D3wgSXgI?si=h0eTFA9ZXAPJqP0w



12:23:50  <belajalilija> I think this is the original in two parts



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14:44:44  <pickpacket> About validating string input. Should that be done in the GUI input fields or where the string is to be used? I guess the question really is "server or client side" and now that I say that the answer is obvious



14:46:06  <peter1138> Always in the command system, yes.



14:47:01  <pickpacket> +1



14:51:01  <pickpacket> is there an RSS feed for the blog?



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15:11:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] FLHerne approved pull request #45: Fix numbering in readme.md https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/45#pullrequestreview-2667563408



15:12:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/grfcodec] FLHerne merged pull request #45: Fix numbering in readme.md https://github.com/OpenTTD/grfcodec/pull/45



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16:03:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA opened issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



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16:13:48  <peter1138> Any other users from Russia using bananas...?



16:16:30  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347603827754405970/image.png?ex=67cc6d5d&is=67cb1bdd&hm=7e05cccaf737c5f58fb43eff29aa87851eb99b0690963ab8ba409af058a0a8ac&



16:16:30  <xarick> the fix is incorrent for Crashed, isn't it?



16:16:48  <xarick> maybe not



16:17:27  <peter1138> Yes, the second line is wrong.



16:18:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755#pullrequestreview-2667749118



16:18:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755



16:18:53  <peter1138> Ta.



16:20:01  <xarick> i guess there's more



16:20:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755#pullrequestreview-2667754372



16:21:48  <peter1138> Likely, this one was quite large :o



16:34:50  <_glx_> I should take a look 😉



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16:44:15  <_glx_> found at least another mistake



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16:46:29  <_glx_> ha no, but `Reset` is confusing, it accepts bits and flags



17:00:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755#pullrequestreview-2667806743



17:02:18  <peter1138> Ah yes.



17:02:37  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347615435033677965/image.png?ex=67cc782d&is=67cb26ad&hm=b14706efa9e048159d8dd621a8358d485fe7fee3c37a1f3cb55db1f58d923319&



17:02:37  <xarick> not not



17:02:40  <peter1138> Yes, supporting bits and flags is deliberate, main thing is it knows what's what.



17:03:13  <xarick> how is that evaluated?



17:03:42  <_glx_> indeed I thoulgh 0x40 was wrong, but it's a VehStates so everything is fine



17:04:22  <peter1138> `!!(v->vehstatus & VS_STOPPED)` is the same as `(v->vehstatus & VS_STOPPED) != 0`



17:04:28  <_glx_> `!!` is an old C "hack" to convert a number to a simple 0/1 bool



17:04:55  <peter1138> `!0 = 1`, `!1 = 0`. So `!!0 = 0`



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17:05:22  <peter1138> `!5 = 0`, `!0 = 1`, so `!!5 = 1`



17:05:51  <_glx_> `!= 0` is better 🙂



17:06:14  <peter1138> We've got a few !! left.



17:07:06  <peter1138> And some translations have !! for emphasis, I guess.



17:07:09  <_glx_> yeah some are for offsetting IIRC like `something + !!(a value)`



17:07:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755



17:08:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



17:17:02  <xarick> how do i tell what's the current wallclock time?



17:17:05  <xarick> date



17:17:14  <xarick> as a human



17:18:56  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347619540737065021/image.png?ex=67cc7c00&is=67cb2a80&hm=62aba9649d9eb18fda4e39a208490b3e16bfb01bb6d94eee865a2af07dbd72e5&



17:18:56  <xarick> can't toggle between displaying modes



17:22:51  <peter1138> You don't need to know the internal wallclock time.



17:44:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



17:46:04  <truebrain> Well, that is one way to communicate... lol



17:47:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:03:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:10:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:32:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:35:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:35:53  <truebrain> Smells like a certain region that is blocked by many providers 🙂



18:39:18  <jfkuayue> Where is bananas hosted?



18:42:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:42:59  <jfkuayue> They in fact connected to the content site!



18:47:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:50:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:50:29  <ahyangyi> I have a question about the existing restriction that "stations can only be built on certain slope types"



18:50:50  <ahyangyi> What's the rationale behind that? Is it simply inheriting the sloping restrictions of railroads?



18:51:10  <ahyangyi> If yes, then should non-track station buildings be exempt from such restriction?



18:51:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



18:51:28  <_glx_> of course not scrolled down before screenshot



18:52:12  <LordAro> not necessarily, that's what cmd looks like



18:52:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



19:18:45  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



19:19:05  <truebrain> very odddddd indeed



19:21:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Levis-GLA commented on issue #13756: [Bug]: online content is not displayed in the game https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13756



19:25:12  <peter1138> Broken MTU?



19:27:08  <truebrain> Hmm .. it is TCP .. then the ICMP MTU discovery has to be broken



19:27:13  <truebrain> and then I think a lot of the internet wouldn't work



19:27:17  <truebrain> but it is not a bad suggestion



19:28:41  <peter1138> Given they're on Discord, which blocks that region, there may be a 'VPN' involved, even if not directly.



19:29:07  <peter1138> (I don't know if it's still blocked generally)



19:43:37  <truebrain> they keep speaking a language to me I do not understand 😄



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21:12:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #13755: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for VehStates. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13755#pullrequestreview-2668393786



21:19:18  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed issue #13631: [Bug]: Infinite money by transfer to nowhere https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13631



21:19:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13631: [Bug]: Infinite money by transfer to nowhere https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13631



21:34:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #13747: Switch default base graphics to OpenGFX2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13747



21:36:45  <truebrain> just to centralized what I wrote a while ago on Discord 😄



21:36:57  <truebrain> look at that, so official, writing things in GitHub tickets 😛



21:37:17  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347684556886769674/Unnamed_6h_25m.png?ex=67ccb88d&is=67cb670d&hm=c3e2bf886ebdffc6e8390b5434fb749963d186c4e67976910ff0b686132dba63&



21:37:17  <xarick> screenshot of the day!



21:38:46  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #13747: Switch default base graphics to OpenGFX2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13747



21:40:57  <truebrain> Together we know a lot 😄



21:41:08  <_glx_> so many workflows



21:45:25  <xarick> NotPerfectAI has got 10000 stations



21:46:14  <xarick> if i wanted 15 x 5000 trains from this AI, that would require 150k stations



21:46:24  <xarick> not enough pool



21:47:30  <xarick> all hopes on AAAHogEx for that goal



22:01:27  <xarick> should I submit to his repository?



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22:11:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #13757: [Bug]: Non-newspaper messages use newspaper font size https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13757



22:13:51  <xarick> oops



22:14:40  <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347693963397697556/image.png?ex=67ccc14f&is=67cb6fcf&hm=b30504b4f1812871ff959ca63a72372da17b439afad1ed6fda94f1ce37c51222&



22:14:40  <xarick> my editor automatically fixed the whitespaces of his code... how do I not do that with visual studio code?



22:15:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #13757: [Bug]: Non-newspaper messages use newspaper font size https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13757



22:25:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #13758: [Bug]: Consumed too many parameters trying to display the "owned by [company/town]" error message https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13758



22:32:04  <_glx_> oh this one seems easy



22:32:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #13759: [Crash]: in error message when converting town-owned road https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13759



22:35:20  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #13757: [Bug]: Non-newspaper messages use newspaper font size https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13757



22:37:46  <_glx_> ok STR_ERROR_OWNED_BY is wrong



22:40:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #13759: [Crash]: in error message when converting town-owned road https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13759



22:42:15  <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347700908309479536/image.png?ex=67ccc7c7&is=67cb7647&hm=96f1bdde86c5a215c7d953109f638f7204b82c0315ca8cf2cee2e6eb14c09667&



22:42:15  <_glx_> but there's only 2 companies so it asserts



22:43:05  <peter1138> It's further back than that.



22:43:18  <peter1138> #13705 was the one I already fixed, I guess there must be more.



22:44:49  <_glx_> for #13758 there's at least a STRING2 -> STRING1



22:45:43  <_glx_> and company face presence is inconsistend



22:50:22  <_glx_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1347702949173923891/image.png?ex=67ccc9ae&is=67cb782e&hm=f4be8065886a5cda5d2d18b8e7842f50d102f8d84fd644712ce396b8b207e2ee&



22:50:22  <_glx_> AIAI is weird



22:50:30  <xarick> yes



22:50:57  <xarick> some previous versions didn't use to do that, and performed better



22:54:17  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #13760: [Bug]: Incorrect error message on some actions, based on previous clear-area actions https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13760



22:55:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13761:  Fix #13759: Really don't set error owner to OWNER_TOWN. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13761



22:57:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13762: Fix #13758: Owned by error message consumed too many parameters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13762



22:57:55  <peter1138> Hmm.



22:58:21  <peter1138> I guess CommandCost constructor should also clear the encoded string error.



22:58:57  <peter1138> Or, the EncodedString should just be part of CommandCost, and not static.



23:01:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #13762: Fix #13758: Owned by error message consumed too many parameters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13762#pullrequestreview-2668587798



23:02:25  <xarick> owned by "town name" error messages



23:02:29  <xarick> i remember those



23:02:49  <peter1138> Hmm.



23:04:34  <xarick> or "town name" local authority refuses ...



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23:05:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #13761:  Fix #13759: Really don't set error owner to OWNER_TOWN. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13761#pullrequestreview-2668594485



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23:13:13  <xarick> that's 1.15



23:13:17  <xarick> beta1



23:13:29  <peter1138> 1.15?



23:13:46  <xarick> erm 15.0-beta1



23:14:06  <peter1138> That error is still there.



23:31:30  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris commented on issue #13747: Switch default base graphics to OpenGFX2 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13747



23:35:32  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13761:  Fix #13759: Really don't set error owner to OWNER_TOWN. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13761



23:35:35  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #13759: [Crash]: in error message when converting town-owned road https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13759



23:36:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13762: Fix #13758: Owned by error message consumed too many parameters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13762



23:36:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN closed issue #13758: [Bug]: Consumed too many parameters trying to display the "owned by [company/town]" error message https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/13758