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00:03:20 <peter1138> Sometimes the clock at the top of my desktop stops...
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04:43:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/248f369e863789267eb81b6ac2708a3dd7b7708a
04:43:11 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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05:22:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ognevny commented on pull request #13401: Codefix: Improve CMake handling of MinGW installs https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13401#issuecomment-2623545879
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08:09:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13404: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for enums in window_gui https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13404#pullrequestreview-2583186669
08:14:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #13402: Codechange: make pool item indices strongly typed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13402
08:19:20 <LordAro> truebrain: it's a runtime thing https://www.msys2.org/docs/environments/
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08:40:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13404: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for enums in window_gui https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13404
08:41:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #13402: Codechange: make pool item indices strongly typed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13402
08:54:41 <peter1138> Hmm, is GetTileTrackStatus' sub_mode parameter ever used with anything other than RoadTramType?
08:55:59 <peter1138> Pretty sure no.
08:57:29 <peter1138> `std::optional<RoadTramType>` could work there, otherwise some variant.
09:00:39 <peter1138> Or expand `TransportType` and sub_mode , but that also affects tunnels/bridges map storage.
09:01:48 <peter1138> *and remove sub_mode.
09:32:33 <LordAro> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-runner/-/issues/38540 grumble.
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09:43:53 <xarick> hi
09:47:24 <truebrain> LordAro: You start of with a fun day 😦
09:48:08 <truebrain> wauw, I kinda forgot how horrible the gitlab UI is .. that paginating at the bottom of that commit you reference
09:48:11 <truebrain> that is .. well.
09:53:06 <LordAro> truebrain: encouragement to make commits short and to the point!
09:53:43 <truebrain> they failed
09:55:53 <peter1138> > 164 files changed, 14461 deletions(-)
09:55:56 <peter1138> This was a good commit.
09:56:06 <truebrain> \o/
09:59:23 <andythenorth> I love commits like "Change: deleted legacy app"
10:13:16 <peter1138> Well, such enum class.
10:40:39 <andythenorth> do we have a var for 'variant has child variants' (in purchase scope only)?
10:43:39 <peter1138> > load average: 51.47, 33.93, 19.26
10:43:41 <peter1138> Oof.
10:43:42 <_zephyris> badge?
10:43:54 <peter1138> llvm vs code plugin was using 45GB RAM.
10:44:10 <peter1138> I think perhaps installing clang-19 has caused some issue...
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11:13:47 <xarick> well.. more openttd development time
11:14:55 <peter1138> tl;dw, is it deading?
11:15:43 <andythenorth> am I hungry?
11:16:45 <peter1138> If you have to ask, no.
11:17:00 <peter1138> (Am I going to eat anyway, yes.)
11:24:11 <xarick> I keep doing the same mistakes as ever
11:24:25 <xarick> multiple changes in a single commit
11:25:09 <xarick> splitting the changes is hell
11:36:29 <xarick> will I ever learn
11:48:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13405: Add: [Script] GSWaypoint::GetOwner https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13405
12:08:16 <LordAro> xarick: https://nuclearsquid.com/writings/git-add/
12:17:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13406: Add: [Script] GSBaseStation::GetOwner https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13406
12:21:52 <peter1138> I have a naming problem for CallbackMasks.
12:22:03 <peter1138> Because they are masks, but they are not masks of Callbacks.
12:22:26 <peter1138> CallbackMask / CallbackMasks?
12:23:13 <peter1138> Hmm.
12:23:29 <xarick> Ask CoPilot, he's good at that kind of stuff
12:24:02 <peter1138> I have no access to, and no desire to.
12:29:10 <andythenorth> peter1138: CallbackMaskCabbage
12:29:17 <andythenorth> until you know 😛
12:29:31 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334500744912699412/image.png?ex=679cc22b&is=679b70ab&hm=2e3825269ec440f29ae9997451d17215efc8bb8db6840544be6718ebc7056821&
12:29:42 <andythenorth> I make a lot more progress when I stop trying to name vars and methods
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13:41:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13407: Change: [Script] GetWaypointID to return the StationID of any waypoint https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13407
13:45:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #13406: Add: [Script] GSBaseStation::GetOwner https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13406#issuecomment-2624560160
13:49:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #13407: Change: [Script] GetWaypointID to return the StationID of any waypoint https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13407#pullrequestreview-2583961806
13:49:42 <xarick> "it's complicated"
13:59:27 <xarick> my train of thought derailed
14:01:24 <LordAro> you should've set a waypoint
14:01:26 <LordAro> ;)
14:09:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13408: Add: [Script] GetBaseStationID https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13408
14:10:14 <xarick> I still have one to go
14:11:28 <LordAro> i'd rather you stopped
14:11:36 <LordAro> you have far, far too many PRs open already
14:22:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13409: Change: [Script] GetStationID can no longer return the StationID of waypoints https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13409
14:22:45 <xarick> done, no more PRs
14:24:04 <xarick> oh, something failed here
14:25:11 <xarick> vcpkg, not my fault
14:33:15 <xarick> time to test AIs that use buoys
15:13:09 <Rubidium> peter1138: I'd say rename VehicleCallbackMask to VehicleCallback and enum-bitset VehicleCallbacks (or maybe EnabledVehicleCallbacks).
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15:46:49 <peter1138> That's what I did initialy, but VehicleCallback is wrong. The bit number of the mask has no relevance to the actual callback that is masked.
15:48:04 <peter1138> And for whatever reason, the callback numbers are not separated by feature.
15:49:14 <peter1138> (I've already done all the changes, it's just the naming :))
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15:51:13 <Rubidium> EnableableVehicleCallback
15:51:22 <peter1138> :D
16:04:17 <xarick> Search "GetStationID" (3462 hits in 305 files of 1101 searched) [Normal]
16:04:24 <xarick> hmm... right
16:12:41 <xarick> i just discovered i can't change AI settings and reload
16:12:52 <xarick> it restarts with the previous settings
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16:15:58 <xarick> in a running game
16:19:30 <xarick> I blame myself for not picking this up earlier
16:22:17 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334559320720936990/2025-01-30_16-21-31.mp4?ex=679cf8b8&is=679ba738&hm=e96bfdb1cd2f09f268f6c199994563af691762550bbe8c8b1c9d11ebacf203d6&
16:22:17 <xarick> _glx_: Sorry
16:35:56 <_glx_> Seems correct, when you change settings for an active slot it doesn't affect the original values
16:37:06 <_glx_> You need to stop the AI first if you want to change slot settings
17:12:22 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334571924939997296/image.png?ex=679d0476&is=679bb2f6&hm=8e6f093a8a921abc0d8bd786b7efe810bbf75edd716c23a3f1f00396bc38b674&
17:12:22 <xarick> got a crash
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17:26:27 <xarick> ah i see
17:27:08 <xarick> someone forgot to set WindowClass
17:29:10 <xarick> WC_TRAINS_LIST, WC_ROADVEH_LIST, WC_SHIPS_LIST, WC_AIRCRAFT_LIST
17:35:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13410: Codechange: Modernise NewGRF debug helper definitions. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13410
17:36:43 <peter1138> Very side quest.
17:37:10 <peter1138> xarick, oops.
17:37:29 <peter1138> Fancy fixing it?
17:37:43 <xarick> Im looking for the commit
17:37:52 <xarick> the faulty
17:38:06 <peter1138> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/95df7ea4833eb10241645f757184535918f5729d
17:38:16 <peter1138> So the fault is in two places.
17:39:41 <xarick> sneaky
17:45:01 <xarick> my poor english, let me ask copilot
17:46:38 <peter1138> Jesus...
17:47:02 <peter1138> "Fix: Incorrect WindowClasses for deduplicated window descs."
17:48:57 <xarick> ty
17:49:55 <LordAro> xarick: pro-tip, instead of typing "let me ask copilot" into irc, just ask copilot
17:50:45 <merni> don't think he's typing anything into irc :p
17:51:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #13411: Codechange: replace MAX_UVALUE with std::numeric_limits::max https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13411
17:52:03 <LordAro> merni: an interesting theory
17:52:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #13412: Fix 95df7ea: Incorrect WindowClasses for deduplicated window descs. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13412
17:52:48 <xarick> bad habit, I feel kinda lonely otherwise
17:58:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN approved pull request #13412: Fix 95df7ea: Incorrect WindowClasses for deduplicated window descs. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13412#pullrequestreview-2584658000
17:58:40 <peter1138> Ah of course, I didn't do it wrong in one place.
17:58:57 <LordAro> sign of a pro
17:59:51 <peter1138> std::numeric_limits not working for enums is an interesting choice. Clearly deliberate, but...
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18:04:08 <peter1138> That it returns zero instead of failing to compile is also an interesting choice.
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18:11:52 <Rubidium> could also only do the enum specialisation for the bit what's happening in pool_type.hpp, as that's the only place that needs it now and wouldn't need to in the future
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18:41:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #13411: Codechange: replace MAX_UVALUE with std::numeric_limits::max https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13411
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18:44:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13410: Codechange: Modernise NewGRF debug helper definitions. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13410#pullrequestreview-2584753348
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18:50:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13410: Codechange: Modernise NewGRF debug helper definitions. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13410
18:51:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13412: Fix 95df7ea: Incorrect WindowClasses for deduplicated window descs. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13412
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19:36:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13413: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for callback masks. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13413
19:39:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #13414: Codechange: Remove unused GenWorldStatus::next_update https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13414
19:44:02 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #13414: Codechange: Remove unused GenWorldStatus::next_update https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13414#pullrequestreview-2584871609
19:45:57 <xarick> can you define your own numeric_limit?
19:46:21 <xarick> like if I want 100 to be the limit
20:00:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #13402: Codechange: make pool item indices strongly typed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13402
20:04:04 <peter1138> Oh god these macros to define default tables are killing me :S
20:06:23 <xarick> remove them all!
20:06:29 <peter1138> Tempted.
20:07:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #13402: Codechange: make pool item indices strongly typed https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13402#issuecomment-2625469259
20:14:25 <xarick> if I commit to a detached HEAD, where will my commit go?
20:15:03 <peter1138> In your detached HEAD.
20:15:46 <xarick> is it gonna poof if i switch back to a branch
20:16:25 <peter1138> Pretty much. You can just create a new branch where you are though.
20:21:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13415: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for RoadTypeFlags and RailTypeFlags. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13415
20:28:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13415: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for RoadTypeFlags and RailTypeFlags. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13415#pullrequestreview-2584957123
20:53:49 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #13398: Add: [Script] Multiple road waypoints API functions https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13398
20:59:01 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 opened pull request #13416: Codechange: make some types used as ID in pools enums https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13416
20:59:48 <Rubidium> I really see no way to not go through enums to make the pool ID types stronger / available in std::variant ;(
21:00:47 <peter1138> Because of unions? One way is to de-unionise, but that might be more and less clear work.
21:02:58 <Rubidium> well, also look at group_gui.cpp in https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13402/commits/8c6be7da1d1e3df3b113de2c3aa0421146697bfb
21:06:22 <peter1138> I have never seen an error like that before.
21:07:01 <xarick> oh, groups 🙂
21:08:09 <peter1138> Seems to be missing a strongtype.hpp include though.
21:08:27 <Rubidium> it's not the compilation errors, that's just a compiler wanting includes that others don't need. It's about all the nasty casts that are required
21:12:50 <peter1138> Let's look again.
21:13:51 <peter1138> Ah yes, switches and array indices are painful for StrongType.
21:14:05 <peter1138> Deliberately.
21:14:48 <peter1138> I did one wonder if we could have a Mixin to optionally allow implicit converison to and from the base type, so that it works a bit more like before.
21:14:54 <peter1138> But I think that's not possible.
21:15:14 <peter1138> So probably a whole new WeakerStrongType would need to be created for that.
21:15:24 <peter1138> In which case, maybe enum is fine?
21:16:26 <Rubidium> all the GroupID{static_cast<uint16_t>(vli.index)} ones are horribly as well
21:17:19 <peter1138> No GroupID(vli.index)?
21:17:47 <peter1138> But yes, if we have to keep casting then it means the idea is a bit broken.
21:17:49 <Rubidium> you'd be narrowing there
21:18:03 <Rubidium> and some compilers really dislike that
21:20:17 <peter1138> Or, in this case, stuffing a GroupID in vli.index is the problem, and it should be something else. But I dunno how that would work.
21:22:05 <Rubidium> make it a variant and it'll become std::get<GroupID>(vli) which is much nicer
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21:25:30 <xarick> there's something strange in Regression::Order()
21:25:54 <xarick> I see too many failures
21:26:13 <xarick> doesn't look to be intended
21:26:22 <xarick> gonna investigate
21:28:30 <andythenorth> what's the correct term for a vehicle if it's a part of an articulated vehicle?
21:28:50 <andythenorth> (grf spec or OpenTTD internals, either/both)
21:29:28 <_glx_> internally it's a vehicle (nicknamed articulated part IIRC)
21:29:36 <andythenorth> unless it's an engine
21:30:01 <peter1138> Is it an instance or a definition?
21:30:08 <andythenorth> yes
21:30:16 <peter1138> So...
21:30:21 <peter1138> GRF Spec goes with vehicle.
21:30:29 <andythenorth> Horse haas consists, which are articulated vehicles
21:30:42 <peter1138> That's on you.
21:30:44 <andythenorth> made up of entities referred to as units / vehicles / trains depending where in the code
21:31:22 <andythenorth> the consists are used to generate buyablevariants
21:31:30 <andythenorth> which are then put into variantgroups
21:31:32 <andythenorth> my head hurts
21:32:41 <andythenorth> I couldn't draw the hierarchy, I tried 😛
21:32:45 <andythenorth> "it works though"
21:33:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #13417: Codefix: EngineNameContext uses enum class naming but wasn't. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13417
21:34:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #13417: Codefix: EngineNameContext uses enum class naming but wasn't. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13417#pullrequestreview-2585107443
21:39:21 <andythenorth> all the buyablevariants are just instances of liveries
21:39:57 <andythenorth> I considered variants that change stats, but I can't see any reason that would be good
21:40:35 <xarick> oh... the vehicle really has 0 orders initially
21:41:02 <xarick> the intentions sometimes are weird
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22:08:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13415: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for RoadTypeFlags and RailTypeFlags. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13415
22:09:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13414: Codechange: Remove unused GenWorldStatus::next_update https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13414
22:11:57 <andythenorth> Is there any single English word that covers all rail vehicles? (Can’t use vehicle)
22:13:09 <andythenorth> Engine, wagon, train are all inappropriate
22:13:26 <andythenorth> Vehicle doesn’t work
22:13:38 <belajalilija> rail mediums
22:13:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #13413: Codechange: Use EnumBitSet for callback masks. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13413
22:14:31 <andythenorth> Train terms are stupid
22:14:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #13417: Codefix: EngineNameContext uses enum class naming but wasn't. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/13417
22:14:52 <andythenorth> A ‘unit’ is made up of ‘units’
22:15:01 <andythenorth> A train is made up of trains
22:15:14 <belajalilija> rail apparatuses
22:15:23 <peter1138> Pixels.
22:15:33 <andythenorth> Maybe I should convert Horse internals to German
22:15:47 <andythenorth> Probably has an accurate word
22:16:36 <belajalilija> schutzengartenbrauerheit
22:19:19 <belajalilija> damn
22:19:21 <belajalilija> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334649181058633778/image.png?ex=679d4c69&is=679bfae9&hm=edcffd0a783d651acd960769605586a4b03e48820b4cca957f826e8bf0fbcc3f&
22:19:38 <belajalilija> i almost named a real thing when i was just making up a german sounding word
22:26:45 <peter1138> "Your script made an error: There is no passenger cargo."
22:26:46 <peter1138> Hmm
22:27:12 <peter1138> But PASS and TOUR exist, both in passengers class.
22:27:24 <peter1138> cargo_list.KeepValue(AICargo.TE_PASSENGERS);
22:27:25 <peter1138> if(cargo_list.Count() == 0) throw("There is no passenger cargo.");
22:27:27 <peter1138> Oh.
22:27:46 <peter1138> I guess town effects removed.
22:38:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #10835: Codechange: Use std::vector for GRFConfig lists. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10835
22:39:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #10835: Codechange: Use std::vector for GRFConfig lists. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10835#pullrequestreview-2585204731
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22:41:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #10835: Codechange: Use std::vector for GRFConfig lists. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10835#issuecomment-2625755035
22:45:00 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334655632997089280/image.png?ex=679d526b&is=679c00eb&hm=c3ca90f993d1a03488a15a38a2f62812efc76a0a47e9c2c53843148ace09c2c6&
22:45:00 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334655633248489482/image.png?ex=679d526b&is=679c00eb&hm=8b41ba02ce55e0cf4f956fca9cac3db4515f4b22ec50211ec18ff4274eb29ec6&
22:45:00 <xarick> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1334655633579966625/image.png?ex=679d526b&is=679c00eb&hm=32630336ea1dcdbe1b8f7712e52369d21ad498b81a04fed004bc997244db375b&
22:45:00 <xarick> Testing road waypoint orders, what needs fixing
22:48:40 <xarick> conditional orders are a pain to set up
22:49:00 <xarick> well, goodnight, tomorrow I'll look at it
22:54:45 <peter1138> Hmm, HouseZones is kinda two enums in one.
22:55:24 <peter1138> Town zone, climate and subartic information all combined.
23:10:36 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Well, German does have a single word, but only because you can string nouns together like no man's business 🙂 Would be Schienenfahrzeug or Rollmaterial, which is rail vehicle or rolling stock.
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