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06:15:50  <marktheshark3209> marktheshark3209: I think this issue was actually due to different default service interval setting when using wallclock

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06:33:27  <peter1138> Hmm, do rail / road types need to store the grffile of each Action 3?

06:38:42  <peter1138> Would it ever be desirable to have different NewGRFs provide different parts of a rail/road type?

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07:16:12  <andythenorth> crossings

07:16:36  <andythenorth> signals or catenary maybe?

07:16:40  <andythenorth> oh wait....ground tiles 😛

07:18:26  <peter1138> Also what are we calling these purchase-list overlay icons as a NewGRF feature?

07:18:36  <andythenorth> yes

07:18:48  <andythenorth> menu decor?

07:18:53  <andythenorth> then we can have tile decor later

07:19:00  <andythenorth> and liveries can be vehicle decor 😛

07:19:11  <andythenorth> AKA Variants

07:19:20  <andythenorth> or we could call them stickers

07:19:22  <andythenorth> or badges

07:19:32  <andythenorth> or structured metadata

07:19:32  <peter1138> Badge. Hmm

07:20:09  <andythenorth> https://www.google.com/search?q=pictograph

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08:47:59  <truebrain> in better news: the nightly build successful \o/ 🙂

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09:01:32  <peter1138> Oof, never saw the closing on #10891 before ;p

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09:31:37  <peter1138> Oh, my VPN stopped working 😮

09:31:45  <peter1138> IPSec is up, L2TP not so much. Weird.

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09:36:07  <peter1138> Well, killing IPSec fixed it.

09:36:46  <LordAro> peter1138: i'm not going to make many friends by sending the club down here, am i? https://maps.app.goo.gl/53jDH769ZHpgJxEs7

09:37:59  <peter1138> Ouch

09:38:32  <LordAro> eh, it'll be *fine*

09:39:29  <peter1138> "But we have to slow down"

09:39:45  <LordAro> eh, our club rides aren't as fast as yours :p

09:40:06  <LordAro> plus combined with the rest of the ride... https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48091711

09:42:22  <peter1138> You've done fast 🙂

09:42:35  <LordAro> on occasion

09:42:44  <peter1138> Sunday was a group I've not been out with before.

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09:51:48  <peter1138> Also LEJOG in 5 days. Fricking hell.

09:52:04  <LordAro> 4.5, please

09:53:42  <peter1138> True

09:55:53  <peter1138> Definitely have to pace yourself doing that. We've got another long day coming up (~250km) and I bet my group will want to do it flat out all the way again...

09:59:21  <LordAro> I find doing anything beyond 200k at anyone else's pace really difficult

10:03:36  <peter1138> When they're still trying to average 20mph...

10:03:58  <peter1138> Clearly I'm just getting old 😉

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10:51:37  <peter1138> Do we do implicit SSL or explicit SSL FTP these days...?

10:56:48  <peter1138> "Royal we" that is, not "OpenTTD we" 🙂

11:14:58  <truebrain> wait, people still do FTP?

11:36:05  <pickpacket> truebrain: they always will

11:37:50  <truebrain> are those the same people that still use IRC? 😛 😛

11:56:32  <peter1138> Well actually, I think this customer couldn't connect because I'd completely forgotten about allowing port 22 in the firewall 😄

12:00:34  <peter1138> Now ideally I'd put it all behind VPNs too, but that's a bit of a management headache with 3rd parties.

12:01:30  <audigex> FTP can still be useful, although I'm suspicious of anyone using it as their primary deployment method...

12:01:30  <audigex> Although I don't really worry about SSL - nothing I do goes over the public internet now. If I need to FTP to it, it's on my Tailnet (Tailscale network) or I insist on being given a wireguard config into the network in question (but that's very rarely needed now)

12:03:03  <audigex> I still tick the option when installing (never turn down more security) but it'll just be whatever vsftpd uses, I've never given it much thought because it's not my primary security layer

12:03:21  <audigex> ... implicit, apparently, according to wikipedia

12:06:17  <peter1138> There's more uses for transfering files than deployment. 🙂

12:07:14  <audigex> Sure, but I'd rarely need FTP for those myself (acknowledging that my use case isn't universal)

12:07:19  <peter1138> I think the name "implicit SSL" was chosen to imply that it's not as good.

12:09:33  <peter1138> More importantly, I wonder why my Minecraft server crashed 😒

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13:16:14  <pickpacket> truebrain: purportedly, although I've never personally used FTP much 😄

13:16:52  <truebrain> peter1138: noooooooooo

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15:53:26  <johnfranklin> I use FTP:

15:53:26  <johnfranklin> 1. in my high school computer; (3 years ago)

15:53:27  <johnfranklin> 2. to upload files to my personal website

16:08:10  <goddess_ishtar> I use sftp for that

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16:22:04  <johnfranklin> My father had some dizzy feelings like carsickness when looking at me playing minecraft

16:22:12  <johnfranklin> that was nearly 10 years ago

16:39:27  <johnfranklin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1275494417989636176/image.png?ex=66c6183e&is=66c4c6be&hm=efa291e63adf46425f01dfeb8a786e6172fcca485b00a62545f3154e6ec2c31b&

16:39:27  <johnfranklin> hmm, the habit of the frequency of `git commit` might affect the rank of contributors...

16:55:52  <wensimehrp> Half of Kaitokiwa2020's commits are `Add files via upload`

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17:12:25  <audigex> johnfranklin: I get it with some games: Half Life does it really badly for me (but not counter strike for some reason, despite being the same engine)

17:12:37  <audigex> The missus struggles with Hogwarts Legacy

17:15:24  <_glx_> I remember Descent

17:16:02  <_glx_> and I often have motion sickness when watching streams of games in FPS

17:16:29  <_glx_> especially when player has very high mouse sensitivity

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17:55:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #11602: Feature: Convert 32bpp-only sprites to 8bpp for 8bpp blitters. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11602

18:00:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12905: Codechange: Replace some short-lived malloc/free with std::vector. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12905

18:04:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12906: Fix: DupSprite did not copy the control_flags field https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12906

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19:13:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12905: Codechange: Replace some short-lived malloc/free with std::vector. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12905#pullrequestreview-2248880612

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21:15:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12905: Codechange: Replace some short-lived malloc/free with std::vector. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12905

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