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00:37:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] donherlopez opened issue #567: [es_ES] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/567
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01:53:13 <wensimehrp> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1256064834731114588/image.png?ex=667f6909&is=667e1789&hm=309f7a0578df9ad5a1484747eb05c73181ae05a5fcd2f7c99d8bf51b6dbeebdd&
01:53:13 <wensimehrp> why isn't the purchase preview working?
01:54:19 <wensimehrp> I was expecting the platform on NW side to be hidden
01:54:34 <wensimehrp> but it's shown in the purchase view
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01:54:37 <reldred> FENCES! \o/
01:54:46 <wensimehrp> 😑
01:54:58 <reldred> That looks superb btw
01:56:16 <wensimehrp> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1256065604448944249/image.png?ex=667f69c0&is=667e1840&hm=9c49959be7c804b0030ba6ab9a7c909610ad507fa0255defba688a6e1c5f79d9&
01:56:16 <wensimehrp> they're not quite seamless though
02:03:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] donherlopez commented on issue #567: [es_ES] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/567
02:19:07 <wensimehrp> πŸ™„
02:24:18 <reldred> wensimehrp: I dunno dude, that looks pretty bloody good to me
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02:58:41 <ian01223> where['s this seam meant to be?
02:58:50 <ian01223> I certainly can't see it
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04:42:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/95f2bec9a90bad47b165c542b7b448be715a74e8
04:42:06 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
06:45:33 <gwyd4016> wensimehrp: are you using some kind of patch? Where are the dots and extra buttons on your purchase list coming from?
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06:49:38 <wensimehrp> ah, that's just the nightly version; see https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12595
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07:28:02 <peter1138> wensimehrp: Are you using variables that aren't available in the purchase-list view?
07:54:02 <andriydohniak> I am almost done with my PR, but when I click "Hide All" when the list is filtered, should it hide only the items currently on screen, or those that got filtered too?
07:54:10 <andriydohniak> same question about "Show All"
08:07:26 <wensimehrp> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1256159010399322122/image.png?ex=667fc0be&is=667e6f3e&hm=bab05ba9ccda4e96787570419402be0cf30765221e8a6bfad5e90512557eab54&
08:07:26 <wensimehrp> oh dear
08:09:30 <wensimehrp> peter1138: I'm not sure, but I think I'm not. It worked before I replaced most code with procedures
08:16:55 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser updated pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793
08:17:18 <andriydohniak> Still need to fix unused strings*
08:23:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser updated pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793
08:49:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser updated pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793
08:50:21 <andriydohniak> Made that the legend opens automatigically when opening a graph window*
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09:28:12 <andriydohniak> Luch? I am back from lunch
09:45:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2196525253
09:45:43 <andriydohniak> CI passes: <https://github.com/JustLinuxUser/OpenTTD/pull/2>
10:03:39 <andriydohniak> Why is it so quiet today?
10:33:51 <pickpacket> andriydohniak: I'm workstracted πŸ€ͺ
10:34:29 <andriydohniak> Good luck 🀣
11:06:35 <pickpacket> thanks πŸ˜†
11:07:53 <pickpacket> last day before vacation and it would be nice to finish this task before leaving for the day. Not because it's in a hurry, but in for weeks I probably won't remember shit πŸ˜‚
11:12:53 <pickpacket> too many meetings!
11:34:34 <andriydohniak> Can't relate, never been employed πŸ˜†
11:44:51 <pickpacket> oh, right! You're studying?
11:57:12 <pickpacket> Another meeting in a few minutes
11:57:20 <pickpacket> then about an hour and a half before vacation
12:28:05 <andriydohniak> pickpacket: I am 19, I am studiying is the networking courses rn, and in August I wil take a C class with a possibility of a 2 year university like internship for free
12:28:19 <pickpacket> nice!
12:28:34 <pickpacket> you're in high school (or equivalent)?
12:28:53 <pickpacket> 19... That's even younger than me. I'm 23 *nods convincingly*
12:30:08 <andriydohniak> pickpacket: No, I am too old for highschool, but there is a thing called Formacion Profecional in spain, basically goverment provided courses to help you get a job
12:30:32 <pickpacket> andriydohniak: πŸ‘
12:30:59 <andriydohniak> I moved to Spain with some horrible timing, so I didn't speak enough spanish to go to a normal school, and when I could, I was already too old
12:31:10 <pickpacket> Over here high school (or "upper secondary school" as the official translation is) is from age 16-19, roughly.
12:31:30 <andriydohniak> here?
12:31:34 <pickpacket> Sweden
12:31:43 <andriydohniak> nice!
12:32:09 <andriydohniak> I still could join some university in theory, but I probably won't
12:32:36 <pickpacket> honestly if you can get a job with a decent salary without then go for it
12:32:45 <pickpacket> :)
12:32:47 <andriydohniak> I just now noticed, THE CAT HAS HUMAN TEETH!
12:32:58 <pickpacket> The what cat now?
12:33:09 <andriydohniak> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1256225880309764218/image.png?ex=667fff05&is=667ead85&hm=9cd997e4586bfc9a1eb84033b5410e6c225b8f5068690a1b92dde0837cdd2dfc&
12:33:25 <andriydohniak> AND A HUMAN MOUTH
12:33:35 <andriydohniak> Have you seen a cat smile like that?
12:41:14 <pickpacket> Hahahaha!!!
12:41:27 <pickpacket> I had no idea discord put that avatar on me
12:41:41 <pickpacket> I'm in the IRC channel that bridges to it
12:41:53 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#pullrequestreview-2147850880
12:43:21 <_glx_> it's not discord it's dibridge
12:51:48 <pickpacket> _glx_: result is the same :D
12:58:55 <peter1139> Hmm, suppliers doing invoices with 4 decimal places. That's awkward to deal with.
12:59:23 <pickpacket> whut?
12:59:41 <pickpacket> how does that even work? Fractions of pences (pennies?)?
13:01:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2196852909
13:02:54 <peter1139> Yes.
13:03:26 <peter1139> 800g bread, Β£1.4394
13:05:00 <gwyd4016> wensimehrp: biblically accurate train station
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13:17:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2196885552
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13:32:18 <pickpacket> peter1139: that should be illegal
13:32:21 <pickpacket> kill them
13:32:52 <peter1139> Their line totals and invoice totals are also 4 decimal places.
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13:35:23 <pickpacket> %$£@!£€$
13:36:05 <LordAro> hunter2
13:37:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#pullrequestreview-2148043966
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13:47:16 <andriydohniak> talltyler: I can't find your last comment, I see a notification here, but the link doesn't go anywhere
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13:57:02 <pickpacket> LordAro: lol
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14:02:47 <peter1139> I'm not sure if there's any legality question on it.
14:02:49 <peter1139> But it's weird.
14:03:05 <peter1139> And going to cause issues with almost all platforms that don't allow it.
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14:06:26 <talltyler> andriydohniak: Oh, it’s on the Manhattan distance comment. Basically, remove it, since it’s not important when it’s initialized - not something to draw attention to with a comment.
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14:49:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser updated pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793
14:49:57 <andriydohniak> Fixed all the mentioned issues, made sure to not spam whitespace, also added the automatic closing of the legend
14:53:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197118897
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15:35:18 <andriydohniak> CI passed: <https://github.com/JustLinuxUser/OpenTTD/actions/runs/9714698877?pr=2>
15:49:20 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krpdtmnt opened issue #12827: [Crash]: Not Compatible With Alpine Linux https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12827
16:04:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] xyz2555 commented on issue #12827: [Crash]: Not Compatible With Alpine Linux https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12827
16:05:16 <peter1139> Haha
16:05:33 <peter1139> Nothing at all to do with use compiling for glibc not musl.
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16:10:49 <andythenorth> Claude 3.5 seems to know how to write GS accurately
16:11:28 <andythenorth> although both Claude and GPT currently tell me that FIRS is "Friendly Industry Replacement Set"
16:12:28 <andythenorth> oh, Claude also said
16:12:28 <andythenorth> It's important to note that FIRS doesn't actually break the core game. As a NewGRF, it modifies gameplay but doesn't alter the base program.
16:12:28 <andythenorth> Issues reported on Reddit often relate to conflicts with other mods or specific game setups rather than FIRS itself "breaking" the game.
16:14:56 <LordAro> peter1139: much lolz
16:15:11 <LordAro> andythenorth: ahaha
16:16:34 <andythenorth> ha, Claude - accurately at first glance - just created a 'solar panel factory' for FIRS
16:16:44 <andythenorth> industry type was its own choice
16:17:00 <andythenorth> (the python file, not the sprites)
16:17:20 <andythenorth> it's confabulated a few things
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16:44:09 <pickpacket> andythenorth: why the F in FIRS? Could be any letter, after all
16:44:59 <andythenorth> it's a stupid recursive acronym
16:45:05 <andythenorth> we had a thing about them for a while
16:54:19 <pickpacket> I know it's recursive. That's why I wonder why you picked F specifically :D
16:54:33 <pickpacket> I like recursive acronyms, and alliterations, and puns
17:02:15 <andriydohniak> Guys, I think I fixed everything In my PR, if you have some time, pls test it out
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17:46:06 <goddess_ishtar> andythenorth: what are you, a GNU project member?
17:48:02 <andriydohniak> Linux is also a recursive acronim, I actually kinda like them
17:48:20 <andriydohniak> WINE as well (Wine Is Not an Emulator)
17:49:23 <gwyd4016> Well I mean that does have some meaning: WIN for Windows, E for Emulator
17:49:26 <gwyd4016> But it's not
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18:06:45 <goddess_ishtar> "Linux" doesn't stand for anything irrc
18:07:11 <goddess_ishtar> but they're very common in the FOSS space (GNU specifically, hell even GNU stands for "GNU's not Unix")
18:07:34 <goddess_ishtar> I don't see the appeal
18:17:49 <talltyler> The fun thing about open source is that engineers get to name things instead of marketing people. It results in equally stupid names, but in different ways. πŸ˜›
18:20:05 <andriydohniak> talltyler: I like the dumb names, how many acronyms start with YA meaning Yet Another, meaming on the whole "And then there were 15 competing standards"
18:21:44 <andriydohniak> Or just funny names, like EWW (Elkowar's Wacky Widgets) that uses YUCK language for configs
18:27:08 <andriydohniak> I just noticed, on github you can compare 2 force pushes, can you somehow do the same thing from the CLI?
18:27:25 <andriydohniak> Or do you have to store the hash first
18:50:09 <LordAro> andriydohniak: git range-diff
18:50:28 <LordAro> but you will still need the hash yes, as it's otherwise cast into the ether
18:50:35 <LordAro> (but reflog can help with that)
18:59:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#pullrequestreview-2148692766
19:10:35 <audigex> goddess_ishtar: Linux is a play on the words Linus (as in Linus Torvalds, the guy who created it) and Unix/*nix. Not quite a portmanteau but something akin to it
19:10:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197482865
19:12:15 <andriydohniak> talltyler: friendly ping ^ πŸ™‚
19:12:50 <goddess_ishtar> audigex: Yeah, but not an acronym like andrii said
19:13:14 <goddess_ishtar> that's what I meant when I said it didn't stand for anything
19:13:41 <andriydohniak> goddess_ishtar: I also googled it a bit, there are interpretations like "Linux Is Not UniX" but the name was not created to be an acronym
19:14:43 <andriydohniak> The history behind Linux's name is some guy changed it from Freak on Linus'es ftp server
19:14:48 <andriydohniak> Freax*
19:15:00 <andriydohniak> So very much not well thought through
19:17:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197491863
19:18:23 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197493176
19:18:26 <goddess_ishtar> andriydohniak: To be honest I think that was the right decision
19:20:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197496355
19:26:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JustLinuxUser commented on pull request #12793: Feature: Make the graph UIs more usable https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12793#issuecomment-2197503539
19:28:11 <andriydohniak> goddess_ishtar: I mean you are not used to it, but Linux does sound nicer
19:30:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #12826: Fix #12825: Crash when opening road toolbar in scenario editor https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12826
19:30:45 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 closed issue #12825: [Crash]: Crash opening road menu in Scenario Editor, due to waypoint buttons https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12825
19:30:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 closed issue #12825: [Crash]: Crash opening road menu in Scenario Editor, due to waypoint buttons https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12825
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19:38:00 <goddess_ishtar> andriydohniak: Freax just sounds horrible
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19:43:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie updated pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690
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20:09:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #12638: Codechange: use std::optional<std::string> over char * for text query result https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12638
20:09:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 updated pull request #11878: Add: public key authentication to the admin connection https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11878
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21:09:38 <andythenorth> GPT is explaining to me why pixel art is remarkably hard for LLMs
21:09:50 <andythenorth> seems like $someone should solve that
21:10:05 <andythenorth> [LLMs might not be the weapon of choice]
21:15:05 <gwyd4016> Language models might be bad at image generation
21:16:17 <peter1139> Language models be bad.
21:17:12 <andythenorth> every month LLMs outperform some more traditional technique
21:17:16 <andythenorth> for something
21:17:29 <andythenorth> they are surprisingly good as 'every problem is a nail'
21:17:42 <andythenorth> or the traditional techniques were just poor
21:18:46 <andythenorth> but GPT is pretty convinced pixel art is poor subject matter for LLMs
21:19:18 <andythenorth> keeps telling me that pixel patterns require precision, and that LLM is the wrong tool for that
21:27:57 <goddess_ishtar> it wants you to use DALLE instead :p
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22:13:58 <_glx_> images are not language, so GPT is right here
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22:57:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #12638: Codechange: use std::optional<std::string> over char * for text query result https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12638#issuecomment-2197750688
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