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00:40:04  <cockroach> talltyler: ah thanks, good to know.

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04:41:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/fa24a3ec6b4b54f6c41c359b800aafe3396ae2a1

04:41:49  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

04:52:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] WenSimEHRP updated pull request #12717: Fix: Wrong punctuation in Simplified Chinese https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12717

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05:24:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] WenSimEHRP updated pull request #12717: Fix: Wrong punctuation in Simplified Chinese https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12717

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07:08:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN dismissed a review for pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unique_ptr for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753#pullrequestreview-2097076922

07:08:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unique_ptr for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753

07:13:52  <peter1138> Oh, GCC does not like that.

07:31:58  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unordered_map for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753

07:33:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unordered_map for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753#issuecomment-2151597262

07:38:54  <peter1138> Hah

07:39:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unordered_map for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753

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08:11:11  <andythenorth> do we know how GS gets text strings?

08:11:17  <andythenorth> I can't find anything by googling

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08:12:20  <andythenorth> https://docs.openttd.org/gs-api/classGSText seems to be the badger

08:12:42  <andythenorth> so they're .txt files?

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08:12:49  <andythenorth> even though nml uses .lng

08:16:59  <andythenorth> nvm, extended my compile to deal with it 🙂

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08:23:38  <peter1138> Well nml and GS are not the same thing, you might have noticed.

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08:25:28  <andythenorth> just wonder why GS changed the format

08:25:46  <andythenorth> nvm, they're not the same format I think

08:26:16  <andythenorth> looks like GS can use anything from https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/1f636d94d41c76a56edb21a9bbe1433a109c8e37/src/table/strgen_tables.h#L8

08:26:30  <andythenorth> not sure GRF can do that

08:29:36  <peter1138> Is it because they are different things?

08:29:44  <andythenorth> yes, seems to be

08:29:46  <peter1138> Like, one is a data format, and the other is a programming language?

08:30:58  <andythenorth> TL:DR .txt for GS lang files?

08:32:14  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1248192717826031666/image.png?ex=6662c58e&is=6661740e&hm=131202c03d804f966864f59cfac84ec7922b448f5632693e3b6519cf4033cb02&

08:32:14  <andythenorth> ha my hint file is a bad idea

08:32:22  <andythenorth> GS thinks "_lang_files_here_are_generated" is a language

08:32:30  <andythenorth> then fails to find strings in it and crashes

08:33:23  * andythenorth delete that hint

08:33:54  <peter1138> Why are you generating languages?

08:34:28  <andythenorth> this one's a lie, it's just been cp-ed from another location

08:34:46  <andythenorth> the hint file is a bit of a hangover from something in grf lang

08:46:05  <peter1138> By "crashes" do you mean "fails to load because you provided it with invalid data"?

08:48:50  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1248196895919046737/image.png?ex=6662c972&is=666177f2&hm=5b13bda02f7c3a8d35ac7a053a9c4c066119e60e08682dd845e037b33df54d2c&

08:48:50  <andythenorth> yes

08:49:25  <andythenorth> everything in gs lang dir must be a .txt file, with all the strings present in all files?

08:49:52  <andythenorth> no

08:50:01  <andythenorth> it ignores files that aren .txt

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09:00:01  <ahyangyi> peter1138: To be honest I need to do that too

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10:43:36  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] novakreo opened issue #12758: [Bug]: some fonts break station icons and menu ticks when set as medium_font in macOS https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12758

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11:09:14  <Eddi|zuHause> well, presumably missing strings will be replaced by their english equivalent.

11:44:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krysclarke commented on issue #12758: [Bug]: some fonts break station icons and menu ticks when set as medium_font in macOS https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12758

11:49:34  <peter1138> That is not Bahnschrift 🙂

11:53:19  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: Might test that later, there were 3 or 4 different failures compounding and missing strings = failuremight be a false diagnosis

11:57:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on issue #12758: [Bug]: some fonts break station icons and menu ticks when set as medium_font in macOS https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12758

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12:27:29  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] WernerP opened issue #12759: [Crash]:  https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12759

12:34:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #12759: [Crash]:  https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12759

12:46:56  <ahyangyi> Can I use a sprite in the baseset but at a different scale?

12:47:10  <ahyangyi> For example, can I use the 1x sprite for my 4x object?

12:47:10  <peter1138> No.

12:47:46  <ahyangyi> Thanks

12:47:55  <ahyangyi> (and I probably asked in the wrong place)

12:50:10  <ahyangyi> Hmm, to avoid any XY problem, here's the original problem: I want the preview of my station show what it would look like when built at 4x4. Currently I precompose the sprites then scale down to 25%. I'm wondering if I can instead assemble that preview image dynamically.

13:06:36  <Eddi|zuHause> no

13:07:00  <Eddi|zuHause> precomposing is the "correct" approach

13:10:53  <peter1138> Is it only buildable at 4x4 (or more)?

13:15:02  <ahyangyi> It is builtable at most sizes, but 4x4 is the minimal size to visualize how it works in general. Smaller ones are more or less "special cases"

13:17:07  <peter1138> Trying to cram 4x4 into the space of 1x1 is... asking a lot.

13:19:29  <ahyangyi> Yeah. The original problem is "I want a 4x4 preview". It couldn't happen, hence various workarounds.

13:19:34  <peter1138> The house builder does cram 2x2 into a slot but you don't see the whole building.

13:20:35  <ahyangyi> (and admittedly even my 1x1 tiles are sometimes too tall to be previewed, at least before the new UI, but that's another problem)

13:57:05  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] krysclarke commented on issue #12758: [Bug]: some fonts break station icons and menu ticks when set as medium_font in macOS https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12758

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15:04:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unordered_map for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753#pullrequestreview-2102254875

15:07:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #12737: Codechange: Avoid unnecessary allocation of temporaries in layout line cache https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12737#pullrequestreview-2102262157

15:10:45  <peter1138> Quite a lot of people still on 14.0

15:12:52  <kuhnovic> They just really love desyncs

15:15:20  <Rubidium> or they got the new features they wanted and just wait for 15.0

15:15:45  <_jgr_> 86% of them are running locally, so desyncs agent am issue, if I'm reading it right

15:17:31  <Rubidium> and 13.3% is the server and a massive 0.7% the client... so unattended servers I'd reckon

15:25:01  <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, but 0.7% still sound like a lot of desync potential

15:26:12  <Eddi|zuHause> back when i downloaded 0.4.0, i learned about 0.4.0.1 coming out from the server list

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18:53:14  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12753: Codechange: Use unordered_map for NewGRF language_map. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12753

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21:02:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #12760: Change: Position caret at correct position on glyph for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12760

21:03:32  <peter1138> For the 0.0001% of players using RTL languages...

21:09:17  <peter1138> Whoop

21:09:37  <peter1138> Ooh, typo 🙂

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21:31:31  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #12760: Change: Position caret at correct position on glyph for RTL languages. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12760

21:36:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michalc opened pull request #12761: Add: [Console] schedule command to execute a script file later https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12761

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