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00:34:14 <peter1138> <https://mstdn.social/@ElleGray/112520793359294305> LLMs right
00:37:29 <talltyler> Rube Goldberg would be proud
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04:43:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/51e170a8d0c3927dde87fd3e9340120d13c4e19c
04:43:04 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
05:17:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] flowprint updated pull request #12683: Fix: Timetable precision https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12683
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06:47:43 <andythenorth> wake me up when the LLM can do GS
06:47:45 <andythenorth> or flat docks
06:50:12 <andythenorth> (I asked it about docks, it picked some random things off the shelf from OpenTTD github and waved them at me)
06:59:08 <LordAro> 👋
07:06:57 <peter1138> Well
07:10:35 <andythenorth> sunny here
07:10:37 <andythenorth> got coffee
07:10:39 <andythenorth> am outside
07:31:46 <andythenorth> GPT crashed Chrome
07:31:50 <andythenorth> conspiracy?
07:36:25 <peter1138> Oh. Where even IS my tent...
07:36:38 <andythenorth> in the loft
07:36:40 <peter1138> It's not where I thought it was, that's an older huge 4-person thing.
07:36:53 <andythenorth> they're always in the loft
07:48:08 <peter1138> Maybe 😮
07:55:25 <peter1138> Think I found it, buried under stuff under the stairs.
08:00:04 <peter1138> Now, is it all there...
08:12:06 <andythenorth> lunch?
08:12:53 <alfagamma7> quite
08:23:36 <peter1138> Ah, GetFontResourceInfoW() on Wine is not implemented. Hmm.
08:25:21 <peter1138> AddFontMemResourceEx() is, though. Maybe that'll work.
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08:25:38 <yiffgirl> peter1138: guess you could call that a GetFontResourceInfoL
08:26:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie updated pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690
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08:31:33 <peter1138> Unrelated changes don't help.
08:48:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ladysadie updated pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690
09:15:47 <andythenorth> my GPT is kind of generating GS
09:15:50 <andythenorth> 'ish'
09:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause> like in, after training on millions of addtions it can sorta mostly add things?
09:18:31 <andythenorth> pretty much like the twitter link posted earlier about maths
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09:34:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] lukasz1985 opened issue #12732: [Bug]: CmakeLists uses deprecated endiannes test. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12732
09:39:02 <Timberwo1f> "please output a MagicaVoxel file containing a voxel rendition of a British Rail Class 35 diesel-hydraulic locomotive" kind of worked while also really NOT working.
09:39:34 <LordAro> you can't say that without linking to the result
09:39:53 <Timberwo1f> It gave a piece of Python code which draws 8 cuboids into a file which sort of has some of the features of a MagicaVoxel file.
09:40:12 <ahyangyi> Impressive, but also useless
09:41:18 <LordAro> 3+5 = 8
09:41:24 <Timberwo1f> It's got enough information to try to produce 'VOX ', 'MAIN', 'SIZE' and 'XYZI' chunks, but not fully valid ones.
09:43:24 <andythenorth> mine is getting close to giving me useful output
09:44:05 <ahyangyi> which GPT though? I'm under the impression that gpt 4o is much better than 4, and 4 is much better than 3.5
09:44:06 <andythenorth> it does think GS is provided as html currently, but eh
09:44:23 <andythenorth> 4o is good so far, it's a better robot
09:44:34 <ahyangyi> perhaps 4o is able to generate a valid MagicaVoxel file
09:44:46 <ahyangyi> with 8 cuboids
09:44:48 <andythenorth> when I ask it for vanilla python it's pretty good
09:45:06 <andythenorth> if I had CodePilot I'd probably be getting a better result but eh
09:46:27 <ahyangyi> it was also quite useful in helping me writing Go.
09:51:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #12690: Feature: Add font resizing sliders to the game options UI. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12690#pullrequestreview-2084751479
09:53:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] lukasz1985 commented on issue #12732: [Bug]: CmakeLists uses deprecated endiannes test. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12732
10:05:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ahyangyi commented on pull request #10409: Feature: Import town data from JSON file https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10409#issuecomment-2137039378
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12:05:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #10409: Feature: Import town data from JSON file https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10409#issuecomment-2137250374
12:13:12 <peter1138> GPUs eh?
12:23:15 <andythenorth> I think I have one somewhere
12:25:57 <andythenorth> no I imagined that
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12:47:57 <peter1138> Does your LLM understand SkiddLow's posts?
12:59:52 <andythenorth> the LLM in my head sort of does
12:59:59 <andythenorth> but only if I have the correct lunch
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14:10:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #12731: Fix: Invalidate game options window after changing base sounds set. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12731#pullrequestreview-2085543591
16:04:48 <peter1138> Well, my knee hurts if I put a knee protector on. Damn.
16:05:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #12731: Fix: Invalidate game options window after changing base sounds set. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12731
16:06:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/dibridge] karolherbst opened issue #237: Feature request: direct messags https://github.com/OpenTTD/dibridge/issues/237
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16:18:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/dibridge] TrueBrain commented on issue #237: Feature request: direct messages https://github.com/OpenTTD/dibridge/issues/237
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18:11:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #12729: Fix: Water infrastructure total when changing owner of object on water https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12729
18:38:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] hmkemppainen approved pull request #12726: Fix #12492: Clarify helptext for "minutes per year" setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12726#pullrequestreview-2086139276
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18:58:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #12726: Fix #12492: Clarify helptext for "minutes per year" setting https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/12726
18:58:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #12492: [Bug]: The description for "minutes per year" could improved https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/12492
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19:21:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #562: [sk_SK] Translator access request https://github.com/OpenTTD/team/issues/562
19:45:24 <andythenorth> naptime?
19:45:28 <andythenorth> or should I ask GPT?
19:47:58 <_glx_> ask MEE6, but it's just a knight obsessed with tacos
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20:28:36 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1245473894836600842/image.png?ex=6658e174&is=66578ff4&hm=c536db93e7158401aa5be4bda5e2bd1187fbf8f77ba3a33ced2ab98b99376c4f&
20:28:36 <andythenorth> oops industry window caches cargo name string 😛
20:29:07 <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1245474022708347002/image.png?ex=6658e192&is=66579012&hm=982a739acee32bcec7362f1f55172a02b39ad4689556eeedc10c96f497dd31c9&
20:29:08 <andythenorth> nvm 😛
20:29:47 <andythenorth> might be author error 😛
20:42:25 <talltyler> Different capitalization -> different string
20:46:44 <_glx_> tt-wiki is super slow
20:49:14 <_glx_> I think industry uses items_of_cargo
20:49:48 <_glx_> vs type_name for the other window
21:01:33 <andythenorth> yes
21:01:52 <andythenorth> I intended to automate generating one of those strings 😛
21:02:07 <andythenorth> but it makes translation complicated
21:03:11 <peter1138> _glx_: Yeah, that and tt-forums are not super performant these days.
21:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause> in CETS i had a mix of generated and manual strings
21:12:01 <peter1138> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1245484820704788480/a3a5d0332b8c20f7.png?ex=6658eba1&is=66579a21&hm=0745a65ba2f9cbe81853c5f3299c2a25f04cef805d88250f76b186cfaf7909e3&
21:12:53 <Eddi|zuHause> you kinda notice it got the reddit irony :p
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21:24:09 <peter1138> Lawks
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21:58:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it kinda reminds me of that AI experiment a few years ago that was like a twitter account or something, and within days it was completely corrupted...
21:59:03 <Timberwo1f> Microsoft Tay? I'd completely forgotten about it until now.
21:59:12 <Eddi|zuHause> that was the name, right
21:59:14 <_glx_> oh yeah I remember
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