IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2023-11-17
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00:46:56 <Flygon> That Wikipedia page has 690 citations.
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00:54:50 <peter1138> So... what happened here? (Ignoring track 00)
00:56:42 <peter1138> Presumably we removed a layer of indirection somewhere.
01:04:18 <_glx_> order is fixed somewhere
01:05:10 <peter1138> For clarification, left is TTD, right is OpenTTD
01:05:29 <peter1138> Looks like we've moved the mapping to the .obm files.
01:05:57 <peter1138> But that means the default "play all" order is different, and not as interesting (it plays the old, new and ezy playlists in sequence, instead of mingled.)
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10:20:57 <andythenorth> Have I been replaced by AI yet?
10:47:03 <peter1138> That playlist screenshot is yet more side-tracking...
10:47:53 <peter1138> If I was an AI would I still get sidetracked?
11:06:38 <dwfreed> over 60% of traffic comes from Chrome
11:08:30 <j_n> I'm actually considering changing to fierfox
11:09:00 <dwfreed> uBO already has an MV3 version of the extension
11:09:41 <j_n> I wonder if chromium (the open-source browser that Chrome is based on) is also affected
11:09:46 <emperorjake> I'm glad I returned to Firefox years ago
11:10:00 <dwfreed> j_n: it will be eventually when they rip out MV2 support
11:10:02 <emperorjake> supposedly all Chromium based browsers will be affected, unless they make a full fork
11:12:03 <j_n> also why do the IRC channel bridge bots have cartoon cat PFPs
11:15:08 <dwfreed> Mine was so cute I copied it and applied it to my actual discord PFP as well
11:28:09 <peter1138> I only have 3 different profile pics, depending on what I've done.
12:34:01 <talltyler> _jgr_: might weigh in here too, because you two suggested I switch to ticks... 😄
12:40:48 <peter1138> Do we have absolute ticks in the game?
12:41:05 <peter1138> Basically a tick version of current_date.
12:41:55 <peter1138> (Or is that Date + DateFract?)
13:02:36 <peter1138> Oh, I think I've found the extmidi bug :D
13:21:00 <peter1138> Over 15 billion years of real-time gameplay too.
13:21:14 <peter1138> (Assuming no ffwd :D)
13:25:59 <peter1138> Eh, fail at commit messages :p
13:28:09 <peter1138> Fix the symptom, not the cause.
13:39:23 <peter1138> I guess that supports MT-32 then :-)
13:40:35 <talltyler> Huh, I'll need to do some thinking about absolute ticks...having a hard time wrapping my head around that right now
13:41:31 <peter1138> If relative ticks makes your life easier easier then it's no problem :)
13:42:09 <peter1138> Passing absolute-ticks to the command and having the command to convert to relative ticks is fine.
13:43:00 <peter1138> In most cases sending relative ticks would be fine too, but you know there'll be some pedant that complains when it's not exactly on the schedule :)
13:45:21 <peter1138> Edited that comment again...
13:48:22 <peter1138> Ahh, old DOS games where WASD isn't the default :D
13:48:36 <talltyler> OpenTTD you mean? 😛
13:49:58 <talltyler> Okay, back to Real Job™️ to figure out why my Drupal view isn't filtering by the selected taxonomy term...
13:50:26 <peter1138> Your ™ is differen't to mine.
13:51:29 <peter1138[d]> I need a new me.
13:51:39 <peter1138[d]> That one is defective.
13:57:01 <LordAro> ™ & ™ seem like they're the same on this side
14:13:24 <johnfranklin[d]> what is the meaning by "TM"?
14:23:21 <johnfranklin[d]> It seems there is some new meaning online
14:24:01 <goddess_ishtar> it's sort of a snarky way of implying something isn't face value
14:24:21 <goddess_ishtar> it's the difference between "it just works" and "it Just Works™️"
14:28:34 <peter1138> See, ™ is the correct character. :tm: is just some bad emote in Discord.
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14:31:52 <truebrain> that will teach you not to do silly things 😛
14:32:29 <goddess_ishtar> peter1138: yeah, but it's difficult to enter the proper character
14:32:29 <goddess_ishtar> I think Discord converts it, but I can't be sure because I'm on mobile anyway
14:32:39 <goddess_ishtar> oh wait it's on my extended keyboard
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15:44:14 <andythenorth> peter1138[d]: can we redo all game text like this?
15:45:18 <peter1138[d]> Sure just use the right font.
16:01:16 <peter1138[d]> This... still runs :p
16:01:59 <peter1138[d]> Multiplayer server list does not though.
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16:04:07 <peter1138[d]> Oh it's got the old PBS in it 😄
16:05:34 <peter1138[d]> Those signals...
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17:07:04 <peter1138[d]> Heh, playing the mt-32 music via extmidi is a bit wonky 😄
17:07:53 <peter1138[d]> Pitch bend at least is not right.
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17:08:23 <goddess_ishtar> I've honestly just given up and listen to OpenTTD in stony silence
17:08:53 <peter1138[d]> The GM music works fine...
17:09:22 <merni> goddess_ishtar: you should listen to the TTD soundtrack via youtube or otherwise :p
17:09:55 <_jgr_> You can also just play normal music
17:10:38 <peter1138[d]> This is normal music!
17:11:20 <_jgr_> Plinky MIDIs aren't really my style 😛
17:15:00 <andythenorth> Was it cargodest?
17:15:14 <andythenorth> Goes it even want cargodest?
17:16:12 <goddess_ishtar> the difference between cargod**i**st and cargod**e**st will never fail to annoy me
17:25:50 <peter1138[d]> How dare you call John Broomhall's masterpiece 'plinky'
17:26:15 <_glx_> the difference between **i** and **e** is important
17:27:23 <_glx_> with **i** cargo doesn't really have a destination, it just randomly hops until it decides it's done travelling
17:28:08 <goddess_ishtar> yes, it's important
17:28:14 <goddess_ishtar> so why is it only a single letter
17:28:25 <_glx_> distribution vs destination
17:29:26 <goddess_ishtar> _glx_: I dislike cargodest on principle, because "I built a network, but nobody wants to go on it" is very annoying and what if the cargo decides it wants to take a super illogical route
17:29:49 <_jgr_> Cargodist is not really random, it's probabilistic
17:30:07 <_jgr_> In game cargo is after all fungible
17:30:10 <peter1138[d]> cargodest is about not about cargo taking weird routes.
17:30:31 <peter1138[d]> cargodest is cargo having a destination and you taking it there.
17:31:41 <_glx_> cargodest is more similar to subsidies
17:32:02 <goddess_ishtar> yeah that's precisely why I don't like it
17:32:15 <goddess_ishtar> subsidies can be very annoying sometimes
17:32:44 <_jgr_> Subsidies are disabled when you're using cargodist, and aren't that important anyway
17:32:50 <goddess_ishtar> not all the time, but enough of the time that I don't want *all my cargo* to behave like that
17:33:07 <goddess_ishtar> With a subsidy, if I think it's too much of a pain, I can just decide not to take it
17:43:29 <andythenorth> Cargodest is nice for small maps and roleplay
17:44:46 <goddess_ishtar> maybe I'm getting too worked up 😅
17:44:53 <goddess_ishtar> cargodist isn't going away
17:45:03 <peter1138[d]> We've already removed it.
18:06:51 <andythenorth> “Dest-over-dist” - the station decides
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18:38:28 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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21:39:41 <truebrain> peter1138[d]: time to become a cat again!
21:40:23 <peter1138> My desktop PC crashed due to out-of-memory (I have 64GB)
21:40:32 <peter1138> And then my Pi crashed for some reason about 15 minutes later.
21:41:42 <peter1138> > Workqueue: events_freezable mmc_rescan
21:41:45 <peter1138> Is a bit worrying...
21:42:29 <andythenorth> Peter probably magnetic bees nearby
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