IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2023-10-11
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08:19:48 <alfagamma7> pickpacket: I am in India
08:20:13 <alfagamma7> Usually have lunch at 3 in the afternoon
08:38:58 <peter1138> Hmm, tried use DiffPlex, it's okay for showing changes between two versions, but not for recording those changes. Hmm.
08:41:17 <peter1138> (It's better to just store the old version as is as it will always take less space.)
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10:39:05 <truebrain> I was still wondering why our bandwidth bill on AWS was so high, but we really have a lot of TCP-based BaNaNaS .. I really wonder why those clients aren't using HTTP
10:39:22 <truebrain> would 14.0 change that, with HTTPS (and using winhttp / libcurl)?
10:39:37 <truebrain> or is there something else fundementally going wrong 🙂
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11:13:54 <peter1138> Does you know the client version, or is that not sent?
11:17:05 <truebrain> the listing contains the client version; but the individual downloads do not
11:17:32 <truebrain> 80% of listing is done by 13+
11:18:41 <truebrain> I can imagine one of three things: 1) we have a bug somewhere (either in client or in the infra), 2) more and more port 80 traffic is blocked, 3) more people than I would imagine have a need for HTTP_PROXY support
11:18:48 <truebrain> 2) and 3) will be solved in 14.0
11:19:18 <truebrain> maybe I should do a brown-out of the TCP-based, and ask people to try to download stuff from BaNaNaS. And with those where it fails, I can check the logs of their client to see why
11:19:18 <peter1138> Hmm, port 80 being blocked would surprise me.
11:19:38 <truebrain> in corp-networks I see that happen; but I wouldn't expect it to be the case for this many people
12:28:04 <pickpacket> truebrain: how come http(s) requires less bandwidth
12:29:41 <pickpacket> does bananas have an api, btw? For uploading new versions of stuff
12:29:42 <_glx_> it uses a different backend
12:33:19 <truebrain> pickpacket: not less; we just don't pay for it
12:38:03 <LordAro> probably more, in raw bytes
12:42:30 <pickpacket> billing be strange
12:48:45 <peter1138> Custom protocol vs standard HTTP, it can be handled differently.
13:29:32 <truebrain> "weird" ... that is one word to use for it 😛
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17:35:52 <andythenorth> that's an industry, 2 docks, some station tiles, and some objects
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17:49:07 <brickblock19280> Could you make it match the other dock foundations?
17:53:21 <andythenorth> that is on my todo list
17:53:35 <andythenorth> I think I can check the terrain type and substitute custom foundation sprites
18:05:27 <andythenorth> objects don't support custom foundations?
18:07:05 <andythenorth> maybe it's object action 0 prop 0x10 bit 5
18:09:01 <andythenorth> ok so that, then draw foundations in the spritelayout, and adjust all offsets accordingly
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