IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2023-07-26
            
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00:52:35 <gabriel_perez> Where are trains sprites in OpenTTD source code?
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04:53:06 <Eddi|zuHause> there aren't any sprites in the suorce code
04:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why there are basesets
04:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause> they are completely separate
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05:26:42 <pickpacket> gabriel_perez: do you mean these? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenGFX
07:16:02 <_zephyris> Or these https://github.com/zephyris/opengfx2/tree/main/graphics/vehicles/64 😉
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08:21:49 <truebrain> right, time to delete AWS resources .. always a bit scary .. "what if I missed something" 🙂
08:28:31 <peter1138> "It's only a game, who really cares?"
08:31:29 <truebrain> yeah, and I guess I can just run the backup on the macbook
08:31:30 <truebrain> 😛
09:05:45 <alfagamma_0007> Risky deal huh
09:08:27 <kamnet> Funny thing, a friend of mine who is a lawyer just told me a story about how a partner at his former law firm refused to use the network backup storage. Made a big deal about buying a dual-drive Time Machine and kept it prominently on top of his desk. Two years later his MBP HDD goes toast. No big deal, right?
09:08:27 <kamnet> Apparently he didn't realize he had to set up and initialize Time Machine and have it connected to his computer. Six years of legal work and current cases all gone.
09:10:28 <alfagamma_0007> Quite idiotic on his part
09:10:52 <alfagamma_0007> I hope he does have the paperwork present as well
09:20:08 <peter1138> 15 years ago we had a write-only backup scheme... the finance guy would write out his backup and job done.
09:20:13 <peter1138> Never tested a restore.
09:20:19 <peter1138> It didn't work.
09:21:14 <peter1138> (If the backup only takes a few seconds, it's probably not actually backing up anything useful...)
09:30:59 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11068: Feature: Set default company secondary colour for new games https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11068#pullrequestreview-1547261493
09:35:39 <alfagamma_0007> I had a pretty scary backup failure experience
09:35:58 <alfagamma_0007> Used cloud storage from that day on
10:03:55 <truebrain> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1133701223921496185/image.png
10:03:55 <truebrain> I love how Discord is making us a good deal:
10:04:02 <truebrain> it is like .. yes ... that is how it works ... tnx ... ?
10:31:33 <peter1138> Always fun when your CI pipeline does Segmentation fault (core dumped)
10:32:28 <LordAro> mine is SIGFPE right now
10:33:21 <peter1138> Division by zero
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11:51:22 <LordAro> peter1138: yup
11:51:34 <LordAro> trouble is, it's supposed to be '5'
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12:37:16 <truebrain> _glx_: https://github.blog/changelog/2023-07-24-github-actions-update-on-save-state-and-set-output-commands/ .. can't say I am actually surprised 😛
12:38:08 <_glx_> hey but we did our job on these 🙂
12:38:20 <truebrain> we still have a few, I noticed 😛
12:38:48 <truebrain> but so less rush now to fix it 😄
12:51:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/game-coordinator] TrueBrain merged pull request #199: Remove: APM (tracer / honeycomb), as it consumes more CPU than it is worth https://github.com/OpenTTD/game-coordinator/pull/199
12:52:10 <truebrain> let's see how the CPU usage changes 🙂
12:56:14 <truebrain> yeah, that is actually a good reduction in CPU 🙂
13:01:30 <truebrain> hmm ... one minor issue in the migration .. attachments to old (FlySpray) issues are no longer available
13:01:35 <truebrain> I wonder if that is actually a problem 😛
13:02:13 <truebrain> but restoring it is also not that complicated .. might do that soon .. just a matter of creating a GitHub repository and pushing the old static version of FlySpray there .. just 3 GiB of data 😛
13:21:25 <truebrain> `error: RPC failed; HTTP 502 curl 22 The requested URL returned error: 502` .. seems GitHub says no 😛
13:26:59 <peter1138> Can you host it on andy's MBP?
13:27:15 <peter1138> Just google how to do it.
13:29:15 <truebrain> use ChatGPT to make the repository, right?
13:29:58 <peter1138> Yes
13:30:35 <truebrain> I am deleting S3 buckets with access logs in them .... it takes a while to do so 😛
13:30:43 <truebrain> many many many many small objects
13:30:50 <truebrain> and you have to empty it before you can delete it
13:31:11 <truebrain> I just hope AWS doesn't actually charge for deleting buckets 😦
13:32:21 <_glx_> well it's AWS
13:32:37 <_glx_> they probably charge both ways
13:33:38 <truebrain> seems the emptying is frozen ... lol
13:35:11 <truebrain> okay, attachments load again, for old issues 🙂
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14:05:35 <truebrain> hopefully I don't break the IRC bridge ... it shouldn't, but .. this part of the AWS infra got a bit complicated, as I had to figure out how to route a full IPv6 subnet to a container 😛
14:10:55 <peter1138> Have you tried just using public addresses and using DHCP to calculate things?
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14:11:32 <truebrain> yeah, but my macbook didn't boot 😦
14:13:29 <truebrain> okay, now at the point I need to delete the actual CDN ....... it still feels scary
14:13:35 <truebrain> and really, I have sufficient backups of everything
14:13:36 <truebrain> but still
14:13:38 <truebrain> brrrrr
14:14:15 <peter1138> "Yes, we have backups, but how much work is it to restore?"
14:14:30 <peter1138> (And presumably cost...)
14:14:37 <truebrain> maybe more importantly, it runs on Cloudflare
14:14:46 <truebrain> so this isn't doing anything anymore
14:14:49 <truebrain> it still feels scary 😛
14:14:50 <peter1138> Why would you need such low latency for a game?
14:15:03 <truebrain> 😄
14:15:40 <truebrain> what is next, you suggest to rent servers at Hetzner? 😛
14:17:48 <truebrain> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1133765117885042708/image.png
14:17:48 <truebrain> for some reason I think Cloudflare has a bug in the storage metrics 😛
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14:22:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #11068: Feature: Set default company secondary colour for new games https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11068
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14:59:22 <truebrain> now the most difficult question on AWS: what resources do I still have provisioned? 😄
14:59:40 <truebrain> but I think I removed most traces of the old infra .. the bill next month will tell me if I forgot any 🙂
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18:38:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/abc3a96e9d0b975ab9fc6d36fdd630c323f2200d
18:38:53 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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