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08:14:39 <truebrain> Tnx all for the proof-reading and indicating you liked reading it 🙂
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09:59:46 <efessel> truebrain: just read your post on cloudflare, curious if tried out AWS CloudFront before migrating?
10:01:40 <efessel> Not sure of the pricing difference, but CloudFront has worked very well as a CDN
10:04:32 <truebrain> CloudFront has the 0.09 USD issue 😉
10:04:52 <truebrain> and yes, most of our static websites were on CloudFront 🙂
10:06:57 <truebrain> CloudFront from a technical perspective is btw a bit weird.. updates to it take a VERY long time 😛
10:13:42 <efessel> Ahh ok, I guess I've never hosted as much so this cost has never been a huge issue for me. Updates as in cache invalidation?
10:14:18 <truebrain> no, changes to its configuration
10:14:22 <truebrain> it is not a problem, just funny
10:14:24 <truebrain> can take up to an hour 😛
10:15:14 <truebrain> CloudFormation waits for it to finish, so deploying CloudFormation with CloudFront takes FOR EVER 😛
10:15:29 <efessel> Oh yeah, I agree that does take a while. Worst is when you have an edge lambda and need to make a small change and of course ends up with a complete CloudFront update as well
10:16:40 <efessel> Yup, terraform as well.. although I usually see it's about 20 minutes, wonder if that depends on how much you have cached
10:19:02 <efessel> I'm still using k3s without any major issues over the past few years, helps stay away from the expensive services such as managed nat and load balancers
10:19:37 <truebrain> Nomad has been a pleasure, as alternative to any k8s implementation
10:19:40 <efessel> But thanks to your post i think I'll check out cloudflare for another hosted site i use
10:19:40 <truebrain> really happy with that
10:20:42 <efessel> Yeah, I've never heard of it, going to check that out to. I really like these posts to get insight into what has worked and then not for others
10:21:21 <truebrain> glad you liked it 🙂
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10:25:25 <kuhnovic> Nice blog posts truebrain. That migration must have been quite the adventure 😆
10:32:12 <alfagamma_0007> The article is written really well even though I understood barely half of it (technical details I mean)
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18:39:36 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:55:36 <talltyler> It's NoDayLength time again, but man, there's a reason I saved this tech debt for last 😬
19:17:58 <truebrain> didn't we already have a PR for that? 😄
19:22:33 <peter1138> As mentioned in this PR
19:22:34 <talltyler> Yes, but I changed some little details and didn't want to force-push over Peter's work
19:23:50 <truebrain> You write it in the PR 🙂 Still funny 😛
19:24:00 <talltyler> I made sure the commits are co-authored since you did most of the work 🙂
19:25:33 <talltyler> Honorary CodeQL award for James catching everyone's typos 😄
19:26:37 <peter1138> For the record I have no issue with force pushing over my stuff.
19:26:55 <peter1138> (Assuming it is not something completely different :-))
19:27:34 <talltyler> I'll remember that for the future when I learn how to force push on other people's PRs 😛
19:32:40 <truebrain> now the migration is done, I might have some time again to look into this stuff 😛
19:33:28 <talltyler> That would be lovely! I will likely need some help with linkgraph stuff as well, since I don't quite understand how to convert those to timers
19:33:39 <talltyler> I am embarking on network server stuff next, though
19:34:24 <truebrain> the linkgraph is also very puzzling for me
19:34:27 <truebrain> that code is just weird 😛
19:34:47 <talltyler> The main complication with linkgraph stuff is that each link seems to need its own timer? They don't get all recalculated at the same time?
19:34:58 <talltyler> I have no idea how to untangle that
19:42:34 <Rubidium_> shouldn't the linkgraph just be refreshed at the current interval in tick counts?
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19:54:51 <talltyler> Each link seems to store several dates, leading me to believe they are each on their own schedule
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19:55:23 <michi_cc[d]> Linkgrapph *refresh* is just about CPU utilization, so that is real-time.
19:57:07 <michi_cc[d]> The dates in the edges are just about when to time-out links, so they are on the same time as vehicle movement. The travel time is vehicle movement, too.
19:57:55 <talltyler> Do you feel like playing with timers? 😛
19:57:56 <Rubidium_> you mean, with fast forward enabled in wentbourne run it every day and on an almost empty map every year?
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