IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2023-06-10
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05:55:56 <gnomechomsky> Where's everyone in Brussels?
06:05:55 <TallTyler> I’m still on Thalys
06:06:20 <TallTyler> We are meeting outside Train World at 11 for lunch, then we’ll be there again at 13:00 for the main meet up to see the museum.
06:06:49 <TallTyler> (And I won’t have any communication once I get off the train and lose WiFi)
06:16:18 <jfs-> I'm in Düsseldorf now, getting some breakfast and hoping to find my bus to Brussels soon (scheduled departure at 8:45)
06:23:16 <gnomechomsky> TallTyler: you're not gonna get like a 4 euro e Sim or something?
06:29:19 <TallTyler> I didn’t know that was an option honestly
06:30:59 <TallTyler> I also don’t know if my phone supports that
06:31:30 <TallTyler> And I’m getting off the train in 4 minutes so it’s probably too late 😛
07:13:33 <jfs-> Okay I may end up late after all... My bus onward from Düsseldorf is only departing now, 30 minutes late
08:18:03 <gnomechomsky> I'm at the museum early if anyone is around
08:30:56 <debdog> if you meet any lanmowers KILL 'EM
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08:48:38 <michi_cc[d]> Blue t-shirt incoming in a couple minutes.
08:54:57 <LordAro> i wonder if we should stop using 'Win32' in changelog entries
08:55:22 <LordAro> it's no more correct than 'OSX', and we moved to 'macOS' for that
09:01:18 <jfs-> Just "Win" might look odd too... Then "MSW"? (nah)
09:03:00 <LordAro> i was just thinking '[Windows]'
09:03:15 <LordAro> only 2 characters longer than [Linux], and shorter than [Emscriptem]
09:10:55 <michi_cc[d]> Moving to somewhere around Centraal as there really isn’t anything to eat at Schaerbeek
09:11:11 <LordAro> have you found Eddi yet?
09:12:47 <LordAro> can't see anything open that's particularly blocking
09:13:45 <LordAro> petern: i think you're the only one liable to be at an actual computer, or are you out cycling?
09:13:48 <michi_cc[d]> Yes, Eddi is here
09:18:00 <petern> Made it to coffee stop
09:18:28 <LordAro> i'm disappearing at ~12, but i'll try and get everything ready for a 13.2 release
09:18:39 <LordAro> what you do next is up to you :)
09:22:03 <jfs-> I won't be in Brussels before 12, so I'm not sure if I can make any eating together now. It's there anyone I can DM when I arrive?
09:23:02 <TrueBrain> michi_cc[d]: you around already?
09:24:51 <michi_cc[d]> “Lunch “ group is moving to Centraal area right now.
09:28:24 <TrueBrain> Lovely undefined. Any directions? 😄
09:37:50 <michi_cc[d]> TrueBrain: Not yet. Mannekin Piss right now, but not yet settled on a food place
09:38:09 <TrueBrain> We are going to Central by train now
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09:46:50 <michi_cc[d]> Picking something on Grande Place Right now
09:48:12 <TrueBrain> We will be there in 5
09:52:24 <michi_cc[d]> Being cheap apparently TrueBrain
10:01:34 <TrueBrain> michi_cc[d]: We are here. You?
10:02:31 <TrueBrain> Well, we have been to two, but .. yeah, no weird people in either 😛
10:02:50 <LordAro> "damning with faint praise" comes to mind
10:09:24 <jfs-> I am at long last arriving with my bus now. Will it make sense to try to catch you at the food place by now?
10:11:03 <LordAro> right, i think that's everything
10:14:14 <michi_cc[d]> jfs-: We’re only going to be here for 10-15 minutes at most, so probably not.
10:16:11 <jfs-> Right that's how long it'd take me to get there. I'll grab a bite on my own and head to Schaerbeek
10:20:10 <TrueBrain> LordAro: It misses a steam image and some text for the other socials 😉
10:20:28 <LordAro> if you're lucky i'll do the other socials :p
10:20:32 <LordAro> can't do anything about the image
10:21:49 <TrueBrain> No GIMP installed? 😄
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10:30:16 <LordAro> TrueBrain: afraid not
10:30:20 <LordAro> done the others though
10:34:01 <petern> While I was sat drinking my coffee I heard an awful noise... Pssssssssssssh as my front tyre deflated rapidly
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10:44:04 <sinas128> Me lads of the dev team, ill be arrriving 13:03 cuz of missed connection
10:46:42 <jfs-> I just missed a train for Schaerbeek, next one departs in 7 minutes, should arrive just before 1300
10:48:33 <jfs-> Recognize me by the light green/teal shirt, black hat, and autumn green backpack
10:52:55 <sinas128> jfs-: Your not wearing any pants???
10:53:58 <petern> His pants are under his trousers.
10:54:24 <LordAro> petern: one would hope.
10:55:18 <jfs-> The outer garments on my lower body are a light brown tartan pattern, I just thought it may not be the first thing one pays attention to
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11:07:52 <NmbsType16> Have a nice day folks, while you will be looking at our beautiful Belgian static engines and rolling. I keep busy upkeeping what little working steamengines our little country has.
11:07:52 <NmbsType16> Enjoy the museum!👍
11:20:51 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: for inspiration
11:32:02 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: Thanks. I am in a river right now in Wales. Class camp
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12:47:09 <discord_user_03329cf> jfs-: Bel/Lux train?
12:50:20 <discord_user_03329cf> Thought it was this xd
12:56:15 <discord_user_03329cf> I hate to say that against all my English nature i worry I’ll develop an interest in French trains :kek:
13:23:11 <discord_user_03329cf> Belgians do have some cool trains
13:23:41 <discord_user_03329cf> Is there a Belgian train set for OpenTTD?
13:26:09 <petern> Oh dear, upgraded to bookworm, dockerd won't start...
13:35:27 <TrueBrain> Btw, as a reminder, merging the release announcement on the website will make it live instantly; no more need for a release
13:47:40 <CK2347> Some wiki links related to openttd are dead
13:56:44 <TrueBrain> From a place in the sun 😄
14:02:01 <glx[d]> thanks to EU roaming rules ?
14:15:54 <Merni> discord_user_03329cf: yes, search "belgium" in the online content
14:19:54 <discord_user_03329cf> Will do when i get chance
14:19:59 <discord_user_03329cf> Not at my PC rn
14:20:10 <discord_user_03329cf> Not even loaded up OpenTTD in months
15:40:32 <petern> Hmm, okay, seems like Boomworm triggers a hardware bug on my server, how nice.
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18:44:50 <jfs-> My boarding pass does not have a boarding group or seat number printed on it... I hope they do have a seat for me regardless.
18:55:35 <jfs-> They found a seat for me
19:10:16 <TallTyler> Obviously that’s out of scope for that PR 🙂
19:47:04 <TrueBrain> W00p, home again. What a nice meet up, was nice seeing all the old and new faces 😄
19:51:00 <frosch> Yep, eaten, showered, charged phone, whats next?
19:51:45 <TallTyler> Yes, I just got back to my hotel. I think I’ll check out Wuppertal tomorrow, because I’m a glutton for walking too much in the heat apparently.
19:52:34 <frosch> Some things are upside down there
19:55:49 <TrueBrain> pushed Steam and GOG; don't feel like making Steam News .. so what-ever 😛
19:56:03 <TrueBrain> reddit / forums / etc I leave to others 🙂
19:56:32 <petern> Let them discover it themselves 😄
19:56:36 <TrueBrain> still can't believe I could do the rest from mobile 😛
19:57:00 <frosch> TallTyler: Yes overhead monorail
19:57:14 <glx[d]> confirmed 13.2 on steam
19:57:46 <TallTyler> Let’s put andythenorth in charge of notifying Reddit 😛
19:58:02 <petern> He can pay for the API calls
19:58:33 <petern> "r/OpenTTD will be going dark" okay
19:58:42 <TrueBrain> and tnx for all the preparation LordAro 🙂 It was appreciated 🙂
20:03:33 <TallTyler> Yes, although we wish you could have come to the meetup instead 🙂
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20:27:56 <michi_cc[d]> Landed as well, now just a short train hop home.
20:40:24 <TallTyler> Nice to see new contributors 🙂
20:41:40 <glx[d]> codewise it's ok, not sure about the messag
20:58:41 <jfs-> And I've landed in CPH and on the train... Luckily no delays on the flight
21:00:54 <jfs-> Regarding #10938, how about introducing the setting in version 14 and default it to hold-and-drag, then in version 15 change the default to click and click, and no migration.
21:00:54 <jfs-> Then existing players will get the choice, but keep the old default if they do nothing, and new players will get what is expected from UI today
21:01:29 <jfs-> (not logged in on github on my phone right now)
21:03:18 <TallTyler> That would work, but how would we remember to change it after releasing 14? 😛
21:04:43 <jfs-> Open a pull request for it and put as "do not merge until 14 has branched"
21:05:22 <TrueBrain> No need to make it that complicated; just use a config version bump for it
21:05:58 <TrueBrain> (Same effect, shorter timeline :D)
21:06:50 <LordAro> TrueBrain: np, and yes, perhaps next time
21:06:53 <jfs-> Oh, there is a way to migrate configs to get different defaults on old and new installs. Right.
21:07:11 <TrueBrain> jfs-: Yup, same as savegames 🙂
21:07:20 <TrueBrain> I added that a version ago or so
21:07:28 <LordAro> should start planning it now :p
21:07:41 <TrueBrain> Orudge said he was going to do that 🙂
21:16:46 <jfs-> Make it a full on LAN party
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21:46:03 <sinas128> I had fun today lads
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