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02:34:03  <Pruple> but then so do some players... "4hp/t" indeed 😉

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07:32:11  <reldred> damnit, nexusmods are 2.5hrs into an outage window they've told us will be 12-24hrs. I guess I have no choice tonight but to work on OpenTTD content

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10:21:33  <pickpacket> Pruple: do other trains have wago speed limits?

10:22:10  <Pruple> usually

10:24:08  <reldred> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1061953514911322162/image.png

10:24:08  <reldred> Okay, I'm liking this distribution. I'm deliberately being a lot harsher with zoning. Only skyscrapers in zone 4, flats/apartments in zone 3, commercial/smaller flats in zone 2, houses zones 0-2

10:34:22  <pickpacket> Pruple: different for each wagon?

10:37:40  <Pruple> yes, although like anything else it's a balancing act of variety, comprehensibility, gameplay and "realism".

10:49:38  <petern> Hmm, not convinced with new glasses.

12:02:42  <andythenorth> can I try them?

12:03:31  * LordAro too

12:03:39  * LordAro also needs to get new glasses

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12:09:31  <JohnFranklin> I am planning to develop a complex reality-based fictional trainset "Golden Weapon", whose name originated from a Chinese poem

12:12:03  <JohnFranklin> 想当年，金戈铁马，气吞万里如虎。(Thinking back to the past, with Golden Weapon and Iron Horse, I had courage like a tiger, conquering thousands of miles.)

12:31:23  <andythenorth> Golden Weapon 🙂

12:31:23  <petern> Ew, my PC froze.

12:31:53  <petern> I think I just need to get used to be them, but my eyes are being terrible at converging.

12:34:44  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1061986381934645248/250px-Golden_Axe_logo.png

12:34:56  <petern> Classic

12:36:28  <JohnFranklin> andythenorth: My father played it in his teenage time

12:36:43  <andythenorth> that dates me 😛

12:36:45  <andythenorth> so did I

12:42:43  <JohnFranklin> From horse-drawn to maglev, from 1700 to 2050 and beyond.

12:46:19  <JohnFranklin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1061989298150330398/Three_steam_locomotives.png

12:49:54  <JohnFranklin> And another locomotive, "Goose" 160 tons, 125 mph, 2400 hp, also never expires, guess its origin?

13:15:45  <LordAro> a highway in a dangerous area?

13:16:00  * LordAro has no idea about this Golden Weapon thing

13:28:02  <CplBurdenR3294> I loved Golden Axe on my Atari 😄

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14:42:48  <petern> 🎶 Too many mutha'uckas

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15:07:41  <supermop_toil> yo

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18:45:36  <andythenorth> o/

18:47:54  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/9d13213c61aa5dc6cb0f6d5360696fef6baef07d

18:47:55  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

19:00:41  <petern> o7

19:22:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #10325: [Bug]: macOS build fails due to [problems I don't understand] format.h https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10325

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20:20:14  <supermop_toil> andythenorth: use temperate city hotel as alternate firs hotel?

20:20:23  <andythenorth> emoji 🙂

20:20:28  <andythenorth> dunno

20:20:36  <andythenorth> what does it look like?

20:21:08  <supermop_toil> 1x2, has a pool on the roof

20:21:36  <supermop_toil> about 6 floors tall?

20:23:04  <andythenorth> oh yeah that one 🙂

20:23:09  <andythenorth> maybe

20:23:27  <andythenorth> I never got inspired by the hotel, and my brain is all v5 Steeltown right now

20:23:36  <andythenorth> v5 Steeltown is the most addictive thing 😛

20:27:37  <supermop_toil> the ski lodge one get a little repetitive

20:37:11  <andythenorth> can I sell you a new economy, one owner, light use, no hotels 🙂 https://grf.farm/firs/steeltown-v5-preview-1/html/economies.html#steeltown

20:39:59  <supermop_toil> i see

20:41:15  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1062108818437308446/bovey-castle_1-cropped-late-summer-aerial-shot.png

20:41:15  <andythenorth> I could include this one in the West Country economy

20:41:42  <supermop_toil> quite fancy

20:42:28  <supermop_toil> my west country hotel experiences have been more small bnbs, rooms in old pubs, etc

20:43:43  <supermop_toil> stayed in a pub here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montacute

20:44:10  <andythenorth> think I stayed in a pub in Montacute

20:44:18  * andythenorth looks on google street view

20:45:35  <andythenorth> was it this? https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9499874,-2.7180469,3a,75y,293.4h,93.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1s6SxU3odi8Qyy5UQt1-bYww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i41

20:46:49  <supermop_toil> think so, was that end of town

20:47:04  <supermop_toil> also stayed in pubs in barnstaple and st austel

20:47:22  <andythenorth> I stayed in a bad motel in Barnstaple

20:49:09  <EmperorJake> supermop_toil: That's the one XIS uses

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20:49:33  <EmperorJake> No hotel in AXIS though 😛

20:51:57  <supermop_toil> need hotels in hawaii games

20:53:14  <andythenorth> how did we ever play without chunky bevels?

20:53:14  <EmperorJake> Would work well as a separate GRF

20:53:21  <andythenorth> whenever I open 12.0, I'm baffled

20:53:25  <andythenorth> hotels.grf, very valid

20:53:39  <andythenorth> pax, mail, food, alcohol pretty common cargos

20:53:53  <andythenorth> TBH I wouldn't mind dropping the FIRS hotel

20:53:57  <andythenorth> people whine about it quite a lot

21:00:53  <petern> Baffled by unchunky bevels?

21:00:53  <FLHerne> I like it for gameplay but it's very ugly

21:01:11  <petern> Oh yes, I didn't read that far up.

21:01:33  <FLHerne> and maybe has slightly too many passengers, can really unbalance the loadings around small towns

21:04:58  <supermop_toil> FLHerne: i tried to draw a better one

21:05:34  <supermop_toil> but it doesn't fit hawaii

21:06:41  <reldred> See that’s kinda why I like the idea of tourists as a seperate cargo, you can ferry them around all those usual tourist trap locations no sane regular person would go near

21:07:14  <reldred> Maybe a small amount of passengers to keep the industry running (workers) and then tourists as the main product/input

21:07:33  <andythenorth> hmm I want steel wagons that can show either coils or slabs

21:07:37  <andythenorth> goes it Variants?

21:07:45  <andythenorth> (player chooses)

21:08:14  <reldred> Variants, with a random option

21:08:14  <FLHerne> yeah

21:08:25  <FLHerne> I keep meaning to give ECS another try, it's been years

21:11:00  <andythenorth> petern: are all these just 'covered flats'?

21:11:02  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1062116313721475132/image.png

21:13:00  <supermop_toil> reldred: movement of tourists around destinations is not that big of a part of Honolulu logistics? other than the whale buses

21:13:19  <petern> They look like wagons to me.

21:13:50  <supermop_toil> movement of service sector labor is probably a bigger / more interesting part

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21:15:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] TrueBrain commented on pull request #122: Remove: 'Highspeed Trains' due to violations. https://github.com/OpenTTD/BaNaNaS/pull/122#issuecomment-1376326948

21:15:28  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/BaNaNaS] TrueBrain merged pull request #122: Remove: 'Highspeed Trains' due to violations. https://github.com/OpenTTD/BaNaNaS/pull/122

21:16:40  <supermop_toil> i never really liked the idea of 'tourist' cargo

21:19:30  <TrueBrain> so happy we automated the crap out of BaNaNaS .. everything "just works" 🙂

21:23:39  <frosch> can chatgpt do the work already?

21:24:43  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: `It sounds like you are interested in purchasing steel wagons that are capable of transporting either coils or slabs. These types of wagons, also known as railcars, are commonly used in the transportation of heavy materials such as steel. There are a variety of different railcar designs that are capable of carrying either coils or slabs, and some may even be able to transport both types of loads depending on the speci

21:24:43  <TrueBrain> railcar. It is important to carefully consider your specific transportation needs and choose a railcar that is suitable for your requirements.`

21:24:54  <andythenorth> thanks

21:25:17  <TrueBrain> You are welcome

21:25:30  <TrueBrain> seems the bridge has a bug; it removed several words while relaying that message 😛

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22:38:57  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #10325: [Bug]: macOS build fails due to [problems I don't understand] format.h https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/10325

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23:10:44  <petern> Looking at other public git repos, they're often a mess...

23:11:49  <petern> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1062146710245220382/image.png

23:11:49  <petern> Such review

23:12:02  <andythenorth> why am I not asleep?

23:12:11  <petern> Horsing around

23:12:17  <andythenorth> mistakes are being made

23:12:17  <glx[d]> don't look at andy's repos 😉

23:12:21  <petern> I was plying with my synths

23:12:25  <petern> And playing

23:12:51  <andythenorth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1062146970917031996/image.png

23:12:51  <andythenorth> seems I forgot to build my tains

23:12:58  <andythenorth> oops

23:13:22  <andythenorth> most of my commits include "(WIP)"

23:17:56  <andythenorth> FML I should adult better and go to bed

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