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08:18:06 <andythenorth> moin
08:38:51 <TrueBrain> I have a wiki page that renders which shouldn't render
08:38:52 <TrueBrain> how does that magic work?
08:40:42 <michi_cc> Elves, orcs, or maybe dwarfes? :p
08:40:49 <TrueBrain> a single newline
08:40:51 <TrueBrain> that is all it takes
08:43:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain opened pull request #18: Fix: partial tables in templates sometimes don't render properly https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/18
08:43:32 <TrueBrain> that took way longer than I would like
08:43:43 <TrueBrain> not a really proper fix, but .. at least fixes the bunch of errors sentry is bugging me about :P
08:43:54 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain merged pull request #18: Fix: partial tables in templates sometimes don't render properly https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/18
08:44:31 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on pull request #17: CharlieAtlas online content https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/17#issuecomment-1093820174
08:44:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain closed pull request #17: CharlieAtlas online content https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/17
08:45:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain closed issue #16: broken links https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/16
08:45:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on issue #16: broken links https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/16
08:45:40 <TrueBrain> didn't even se esomeone made a PR :P
08:49:54 <TrueBrain> and .. I seem to have fucked up my fix
08:49:55 <TrueBrain> lol
08:49:59 <TrueBrain> why ... where .. how ...
08:50:42 <TrueBrain> argh, it silently added a \n after all
08:51:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain opened pull request #19: Fix: partial tables in templates sometimes don't render properly https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/19
08:52:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain merged pull request #19: Fix: partial tables in templates sometimes don't render properly https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/pull/19
08:52:18 <TrueBrain> so I had to repeat it via the CLI .. ugh :P
08:58:29 <TrueBrain> right, fixed all the bugs the italian dude found in TrueWiki. Were only 2 .. which is a nice surprise, honestly. That people cannot break TrueWiki that easily :P
09:38:03 <andythenorth> :)
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10:28:04 <frosch123> TrueBrain: someone sent a loveletter/compliment-sandwich for you :)
10:30:43 <nielsm> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=89836 this is maybe a good point, "no stop sending me money, I want to do this myself"? it could make sense to have a list of "pending company approvals" which could have that, and also requests for a player to join, and perhaps open offers for vehicle trials and buying out bankrupt competitors
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10:41:01 <andythenorth> hmm it's such a nice way to troll co-opetive though
10:41:55 <andythenorth> ok 2 weeks not working, what shall I make?
10:42:00 <andythenorth> more Horse?
10:42:02 <andythenorth> TrueHorse!
10:43:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #9797: [Bug]: Unbearable city ambient sounds https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9797
10:44:14 <TrueBrain> frosch123: so a loveletter to me and a hate letter to you :P
10:44:15 <TrueBrain> that is nice :)
10:44:27 <TrueBrain> I do appreciate them emailing :)
10:46:12 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: 2 weeks? Holy crap .. how did you do that?! Can you give me some too?
10:47:14 <andythenorth> just do a lot of 60+ hour weeks in a row
10:47:16 <andythenorth> then have a holiday
10:47:36 <TrueBrain> I am doing the first, but I don't see the latter .. hmm
10:48:25 <andythenorth> took me a while
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11:48:50 <andythenorth> what shall we do that is lolz?
11:49:10 <andythenorth> what about 0x4E? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9093
11:49:13 <andythenorth> that could be funny
11:49:16 <andythenorth> battery trains :P
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14:06:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] Rivarossi opened issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
14:11:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
14:11:57 <TrueBrain> lol, can't transfer issues to another organization
14:11:58 <TrueBrain> lame :P
14:14:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] Rivarossi commented on issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
14:15:14 <TrueBrain> well, that still lacks any kind of context .. lol
14:16:10 <frosch123> it's the # part of the link
14:16:24 <frosch123> the wiki slugifies it, but the user entered it by hand
14:17:17 <TrueBrain> so user error, basically?
14:17:27 <TrueBrain> I am happy you spotted that easier than I did :P
14:17:40 <frosch123> i guess tell them "do not guess the link, but copy it from the browser url"
14:17:41 <TrueBrain> ah, he updated it with a link that is useful :D
14:18:37 <frosch123> alternatively truewiki could slugify the # part, when rendering the <a> lnik
14:19:36 <frosch123> so if user writes [[Localizzazione#Unità-di-potenza-veicoli]] truewiki would generate href="Localizzazione#unita-di-potenza-veicoli"
14:19:48 <TrueBrain> I get what you mean ;)
14:19:53 <TrueBrain> just wonder if that is the right thing to do .. hmm
14:20:38 <frosch123> yeah, technically the user was fine with adding "-", but refused to replace the "á"
14:28:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
14:29:34 <TrueBrain> voted against modifying links during parsing; that just feels like the wrong approach
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14:29:58 <TrueBrain> the vote was unanimous, so there is that :P
14:30:30 <frosch123> haha, yeah, it would be a guessing game again, which chars are allowed without breaking some other syntax magic :)
14:30:36 <frosch123> like {} [] :)
14:42:54 <TrueBrain> yeah, and where does it stop .. with & and shit .. no tnx :)
14:43:18 <andythenorth> also html and bbcode in grf strings when?
14:43:37 <TrueBrain> TrueGRF finished when?
14:43:52 <andythenorth> lol wait until you read Iron Horse :P
14:44:12 <andythenorth> pls make sure frosch123 is here that day
14:45:07 <frosch123> did you already pass on the new feature request for truegrf?
14:45:20 <frosch123> compiling grf has to use more cpu power, so the fingers do not become cold
14:45:31 <TrueBrain> yeah, I denied that feature
14:45:33 <TrueBrain> stupid users :P
14:45:43 <TrueBrain> I did make a new GitHub space for TrueGRF
14:45:58 <TrueBrain> but .... I severely lack time/energy to work on it .. I guess I just need to quit my job
14:46:01 <TrueBrain> can I do a fundraiser? :D
14:46:04 <andythenorth> maybe :P
14:46:18 * andythenorth learns how to secure AWS IAM
14:46:34 <andythenorth> been using root user for web login forever
14:47:25 <glx> wow silly andy
14:47:49 <andythenorth> this is only personal stuff :P
14:47:54 <andythenorth> main risk is bill shock
14:48:52 <TrueBrain> Any bill is a shock :p
14:48:59 <TrueBrain> Use cloudflare, never a bill!
14:51:26 <andythenorth> hmm AWS IAM groups :O
14:51:27 <andythenorth> oof
14:52:43 <TrueBrain> cannot believe game-coordinator turned out to be rather stable :D Lol
14:53:06 <andythenorth> hmm least access, least privilege for task
14:53:07 <andythenorth> onwards
14:54:02 <TrueBrain> 12.2 adoption is slow :P
14:54:13 <TrueBrain> today only 25% was using 12.2, the rest 12.1 :)
14:55:30 <andythenorth> hmm I give this user least privilege
14:55:35 <andythenorth> S3 and Cloudfront only
14:55:44 <andythenorth> but it can buy and launch all other services? :o
14:55:50 <TrueBrain> < 25% needs TURN, which is still far less than I expected :P
14:56:55 <TrueBrain> we help setup ~6000 connections each day
14:56:57 <TrueBrain> which is also not bad
14:57:04 <andythenorth> oh I can try and do things, but then red boxes nvm, let's ignore :P
14:57:31 <TrueBrain> I was looking at bandwidth of Minecraft .. which is ~100KB/s .. then you have OpenTTD .. with 1KB/s :P
14:57:58 <andythenorth> so eco friendly
14:59:35 <andythenorth> ok that job is ticked off
14:59:42 <andythenorth> been meaning to do that for about 12 months
15:00:27 <glx> something is broken in newgrf wiki for conditionnal support https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0
15:01:08 <andythenorth> oof
15:01:19 <glx> happens everywhere
15:02:13 <TrueBrain> Port to TrueWiki when?
15:02:36 <glx> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Special:Version <-- licence suggest an update has been applied, but installed version says otherwise
15:03:04 <andythenorth> automated truewiki conversion?
15:08:18 <frosch123> glx: the wiki was updated recently
15:08:20 <frosch123> 1 or 2 weeks go
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15:10:35 <frosch123> looks like the parserextention is missing
15:10:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] Rivarossi commented on issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
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15:18:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain commented on issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
15:18:28 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/wiki-data] TrueBrain closed issue #20: anchor link and accent https://github.com/OpenTTD/wiki-data/issues/20
15:18:49 <TrueBrain> It's a fair request, but no, too much effort, too much potential to fuck up :p
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15:22:26 <frosch123> one love letter enough for a day?
15:25:34 <TrueBrain> Yeah :p
15:33:38 * andythenorth needs some collaborative project
15:33:42 <andythenorth> or I have to play 2048 :P
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15:49:40 <andythenorth> 2048 so bad
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15:50:35 <frosch123> back to tanks?
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15:52:56 <TrueBrain> Too close to home, tanks :p
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16:28:15 <andythenorth> also my CPU Temp is Way Too High
16:28:31 <andythenorth> did we discuss this? :P
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16:43:45 <frosch123> glx: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1252573#p1252573 <- i found an "upgrade" thread
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16:51:45 <glx> stop pressing spacebar andythenorth
16:57:45 <andythenorth> how did you know?
16:58:52 <glx> https://xkcd.com/1172/ of course
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17:53:31 <andythenorth> can we make nml faster? :P
18:00:08 <frosch123> try "--summer"
18:00:55 <andythenorth> what about an optimisation flag for switches?
18:01:20 <andythenorth> it skips all varaction 2 and just chains the action 3 to the first referenced action 1
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18:02:21 <andythenorth> I suppose it would still have to parse
18:02:23 <andythenorth> parsing is slow
18:06:56 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD quiz on Discord if anyone is interested. Starts in 4 minutes!
18:13:13 * andythenorth is playing
18:48:43 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/49b8eac2dc702634cabbe3a1683c08ffee8bd497
18:48:44 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
18:51:03 <frosch123> did you win?
18:51:09 <frosch123> was there a nfo question? :p
18:55:40 <andythenorth> I did not win
18:55:45 <andythenorth> I tried to make sure I lost
18:55:50 <andythenorth> by randomly guessing answers
18:56:10 <andythenorth> 'which callbacks are 15 bit' would have been a good q
18:57:24 <frosch123> almost a trick question :)
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19:45:30 <FLHerne> one day I will get back to my nml ideas
19:45:50 <FLHerne> unless truegrf makes it totally obsolete first
19:46:29 <TrueBrain> nah, TrueGRF will never be for the advanced user, tbh
19:46:59 <frosch123> maybe advanced users are obsolete
19:47:29 <TrueBrain> that I cannot rule out
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20:16:45 <andythenorth> nml partial compiles :P
20:17:00 <andythenorth> parallel parsing
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20:57:02 <TrueBrain> fun fact: I could make a Minecraft -> GRF converter .. where you can build a train in Minecraft, and export that to GRF ... so voxel based building in 3D :P
20:57:11 <TrueBrain> (for shit and giggles I am writing my own custom Minecraft server from scratch, as .. why not :P)
21:01:31 <andythenorth> Minecraft OpenTTD inception
21:01:39 <andythenorth> can you program one in the other?
21:08:51 <TrueBrain> well, I could make that if you change the train in Minecraft, it auto loads in OpenTTD :P
21:09:01 <TrueBrain> that would be so insane and useless .. but funny :P
21:09:47 <andythenorth> industries :P
21:09:57 <andythenorth> oof block building them would take so long
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