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09:48:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] orudge commented on issue #9734: [Error]: The setting name "Screen resolution" is misleading https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9734



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10:54:19  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on issue #9734: [Error]: The setting name "Screen resolution" is misleading https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9734



10:56:48  <peter1138> Also... [Error]: !?



10:57:30  <peter1138> Nearly 11am and I'm only on coffee no. 2



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14:29:43  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832



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14:49:52  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9827: Feature: Improved finance window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9827



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14:52:47  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9827: Feature: Improved finance window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9827#issuecomment-1065185296



15:12:40  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832



15:18:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain closed issue #9820: [Bug]: Destroying road when local authority doesn't allow it gives the wrong error message https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9820



15:18:16  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain merged pull request #9831: Fix: removing long roads doesn't prioritize refusal of local authority over other errors https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9831



15:21:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #9827: Feature: Improved finance window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9827#issuecomment-1065212309



15:23:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907367738



15:25:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on issue #9734: [Error]: The setting name "Screen resolution" is misleading https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/9734



15:57:25  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9827: Feature: Improved finance window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9827



15:58:48  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9827: Feature: Improved finance window https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9827#issuecomment-1065245467



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17:46:15  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833



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17:58:34  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833#pullrequestreview-907550300



17:59:55  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833#pullrequestreview-907551693



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18:26:42  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 requested changes for pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907578708



18:29:27  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain dismissed a review for pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907367738



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18:45:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9801: Change Language Definitions: Split zh_TW into zh_TW and zh_HK https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9801#issuecomment-1065391499



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19:33:33  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #9709: Feature: Build objects by area https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9709#pullrequestreview-907632855



19:38:11  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833



19:43:04  <andythenorth> yo



19:50:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#issuecomment-1065439125



19:54:19  <supermop_work> yo andy



19:59:03  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9709: Feature: Build objects by area https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9709



19:59:06  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#issuecomment-1065458846



20:12:13  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833#pullrequestreview-907706421



20:15:29  <andythenorth> convert all default industries to grf :P



20:15:44  <andythenorth> "there may be some problems"



20:17:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832



20:20:01  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9833: Feature: "Unrestricted" local authority attitude https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9833



20:27:56  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 dismissed a review for pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907578708



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20:31:37  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907730397



20:32:23  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone commented on pull request #9709: Feature: Build objects by area https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9709#pullrequestreview-907712251



20:35:02  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907733760



20:55:26  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832



20:57:21  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832#pullrequestreview-907756866



20:59:34  <frosch123> bikeshed is strong :)



21:00:28  <frosch123> andythenorth: do yaks live in bikesheds?



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21:00:46  <andythenorth> depends if they've been shaved or not



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21:04:14  <peter1138> Not sure why that mechanic needs to change



21:05:39  <FLHerne> It confuses a couple of people, and no-one seems attached to it



21:05:51  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9709: Feature: Build objects by area https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9709



21:06:14  <frosch123> it's one of the many things "it was like that in TTD, but if anyone redesigned it, they would not do it like that"



21:06:15  <FLHerne> oh, frosch said he likes it



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21:06:32  <FLHerne> I don't really care, but I can see why it's non-obvious to new players



21:06:42  <frosch123> same as with the "remove TTD-like property maintainance"



21:07:04  <frosch123> FLHerne: i am pretty meh about the feature :)



21:07:30  <frosch123> there is no good reason why TTD does it like that. but I try to avoid the "make ottd not ttd" route



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21:07:50  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #9832: Change: Vanilla industry tiles have 8/8 acceptance https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/9832



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21:07:52  <frosch123> but new players do not want to play TTD :)



21:08:04  <frosch123> maybe it's a generation conflict :p



21:09:12  <peter1138> 1 confused person changes the game for everyone who isn't confused and doesn't bring it up? :D



21:09:28  <frosch123> in the past people wanted to "add new things", and the answer was "do it via add-ons". but now people want to "remove old things" :p



21:11:00  <Rubidium> ... do it via add-ons?



21:11:52  <Rubidium> after all, the 8/8 acceptance can be done via a NewGRF, right?



21:14:38  <frosch123> yes, but that is not the argument. the argument is about changing the defaults



21:15:07  <frosch123> for players half our age



21:32:50  <TrueBrain> And make an addon to readd the original behaviour :D



21:33:06  <TrueBrain> It is the circle of life!



21:33:59  <frosch123> funnily you cannot implement the default behavior in newgrf. because noone bothered to replicate the weird TTD stuff into newgrf :p



21:34:46  <TrueBrain> Now that is some irony



21:38:22  <FLHerne> peter1138: In this case, I can't see how increasing acceptance could break what people are used to doing



21:46:31  <michi_cc> FLHerne: It would "break" old savegames where people deliberately put stations to in a way to control which industry will receive stuff via acceptance.



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21:56:59  <FLHerne> oh, true



21:58:37  <frosch123> pretty much every old savegame was broken by the station-catchment change :)



21:58:46  <peter1138>  Ooof



21:59:07  <frosch123> i don't think there is a rational argument for/against changing the default tile acceptance



21:59:37  <peter1138> Other than "well you can do it with newgrf" but that didn't work out well for default refits for all those years :D



22:00:06  <frosch123> default refits were also changed in 12.0 :)



22:15:15  <andythenorth> move everything to grf when? :P



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