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05:15:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] chupper100 opened issue #285: [vi_VN] Translator access request https://git.io/J93HI

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09:02:42  <andythenorth> yo

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10:12:44  <TrueBrain> battling Rust lifetime

10:12:45  <TrueBrain> always fun :)

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11:02:50  <TrueBrain> and ... we are back to "read past end of pseudo-sprite" :P

11:02:54  <TrueBrain> stupid varaction2 chains

11:24:01  <TrueBrain> the annoying part ... it seems to be fine :P Even looking at the grfcodec decompile it seems what I expect it to be :)

11:24:04  <TrueBrain> grrr

11:26:07  <TrueBrain> ugh, no I am a potato .. the "another operator is following" flag is just in a weird place

11:26:10  <TrueBrain> I always forget ...

11:29:21  <LordAro> TruePotato

11:29:27  <TrueBrain> yes!

11:29:56  <TrueBrain> now it doesn't fail, but doesn't work either :P

11:30:09  <TrueBrain> IMPROVEMENTS!

11:30:38  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #285: [vi_VN] Translator access request https://git.io/J93HI

11:32:00  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #284: [hr_HR] Translator access request https://git.io/J9Y53

11:42:29  <TrueBrain> owh, lol, totally unrelated change I made that was causing that

11:42:30  <TrueBrain> LALALALAA :D

11:43:37  <TrueBrain> a switch with no cases in NewGRF doesn't want to take my default .. hmm .. what did I do wrong :D

11:46:03  <TrueBrain> ah .. "special case"

11:46:15  <TrueBrain> jollygood

12:00:45  <michi_cc> Isn't all of NewGRF a single "special case"? :p

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12:04:45  <TrueBrain> Haha, very true :)

12:10:27  <frosch123> every grf generator so far fell for that trap

12:10:51  <frosch123> firs probably three times

12:12:47  <frosch123> "This sender has been verified from Openttd safe senders list" <- i love scams

12:13:43  <FLHerne> I like the ones that are from 'flherne.uk network administrator' -- i.e. me :p

12:13:44  <TrueBrain> But in good news, RPN to NewGRF is functional, with somewhat sane code :D now to extend it to support local variables :)

12:14:03  <TrueBrain> Rust is really nice for this kind of parsing

12:14:20  <TrueBrain> And it indeed is a single-pass compiler, what I was hoping for

12:14:29  <frosch123> the text is even more funny: Breanneh Spears BookKeeper has made a payment of $107,980.89 to invoice C43252.

12:14:44  <frosch123> i guess if you read that aloud it's Britney

12:14:59  <TrueBrain> We are rich!

12:16:52  <frosch123> we were rich

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12:19:12  <TrueBrain> Awh :(

12:28:22  <andythenorth> hmm

12:28:25  * andythenorth played tanks

12:28:30  <andythenorth> instead of FIRS 5

12:28:53  <andythenorth> why does this happen? :P

12:30:11  <TrueBrain> because why not?

12:44:41  <TrueBrain> hmm .. now the question, am I going for reduced NewGRF filesize, or for easy programming

12:44:48  <TrueBrain> callbacks can use the same functions

12:45:02  <TrueBrain> so I could put those in a set, and reuse that

12:45:16  <TrueBrain> orrrrrrr ... I could just ignore that completely, and for every industry every callback just generate the full chain

12:46:37  <andythenorth> FIRS is more fun long term

12:46:39  <andythenorth> but more work

12:46:50  <andythenorth> tanks no sense of reward, but easy :P

12:47:18  <frosch123> TrueBrain: nfo size is dominant for 8bpp newgrfs, but dwarfed by the sprites in 32bpp newgrf

12:47:30  <frosch123> imho ignore filesize, rather optimise for runtime

12:47:46  <TrueBrain> which runtime .. TrueGRF or OpenTTD? :P

12:48:16  <TrueBrain> pretty sure speed is the same for both solutions; it is just about reducing filesize or not, where with the latter I can be lovely lazy :)

12:48:25  <frosch123> openttd ofc :p runtime probably prefers long va2 over deeply nested va2

12:48:42  <TrueBrain> hmm, inline functions you say? Hmm

12:48:45  <TrueBrain> did not consider that yet

13:19:14  <TrueBrain> right ... now how do I return for normal callbacks, let's find out!

13:19:47  <TrueBrain> I guess this is the empty switch part :P

13:37:56  <TrueBrain> Callback 0x15f returned unknown/invalid result 0x1

13:37:57  <TrueBrain> awh

13:39:33  <frosch123> hey, you reached the age of useful error messages :)

13:39:50  <TrueBrain> except that I don't understand it

13:39:51  <TrueBrain> so not -that- useful :P

13:40:10  <frosch123> why do you use cb 15f though :p

13:40:23  <TrueBrain> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Callbacks#Set_initial_production_level_on_construction_.2815F.29

13:40:33  <TrueBrain> FIRS is doing that .. :P

13:41:05  <TrueBrain> but what is wrong with a result of 1?

13:41:10  <andythenorth> best callback ever

13:41:16  <andythenorth> can be used for ... other things :P

13:41:21  <TrueBrain> owh, range must be 04..80h

13:41:23  <TrueBrain> right

13:41:37  <michi_cc> "Production level; must be in range 04..80h!

13:41:44  <michi_cc> Too slow :)

13:42:00  <frosch123> "< 04" means "industry closure"

13:42:05  <frosch123> blame CS

13:42:08  <TrueBrain> did not expect such a weird error in that case :)

13:42:23  <TrueBrain> in good news, it works! :D \o/

13:47:52  <TrueBrain> what I do now, really childish: the result is stored in temp register 0

13:47:52  <TrueBrain> and the last chain fetches that register and uses no switches to return it

13:47:53  <TrueBrain> pretty sure that can be done smarter

13:47:54  <TrueBrain> but .. shrug

13:55:54  <andythenorth> ok, let's add industry regions

13:55:56  <andythenorth> not just clusters

13:55:59  * andythenorth starts

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13:58:11  <TrueBrain> okay, 5 industry callbacks are functional. Now I just need to add functions, local variables, and more industry variables before the FIRS variant starts to kick in :D

13:58:17  <TrueBrain> baby steps

13:59:04  <frosch123> how fluid are you in translating firs pynml into rpn?

13:59:13  <TrueBrain> see the gist

13:59:21  <TrueBrain> up to you to decide how fluent that is :P

13:59:31  <frosch123> the gist scares me :)

13:59:38  <TrueBrain> pyNML doesn't? :)

14:02:33  <TrueBrain> but yeah, I think it was pretty simple

14:02:39  <TrueBrain> RPN takes a bit getting used ot, but that is about it

14:02:50  <TrueBrain> so I think I did a 1-to-1 conversion

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14:03:30  <andythenorth> I have NFI how you convert pynml to rpn :P

14:03:43  <andythenorth> there's a lot of loop expansion and conditionals in the templating 

14:05:15  <TrueBrain> the reason RPN supports loops :)

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14:34:26  <andythenorth> hmm 392 instances of industry.economy_variations to refactor :P

14:34:28  <andythenorth> eh oh

14:38:24  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] frenchiveruti opened issue #286: [es_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/J9soW

14:41:33  <jlx_> If you have a savegame and you need to resize the map (because you already connected to all cities), is there a map resizer?

14:41:54  <jlx_> (I know, I asked a while ago, but maybe someone did this in the meantime)

14:43:02  <nielsm> no, it's absurdly difficult to resize maps

14:43:10  <nielsm> so one doesn't exist

14:44:19  <jlx_> what's the difficulty? just append some tiles here and there...

14:44:39  <nielsm> all coordinates of everything everywhere has to be remapped

14:44:55  <jlx_> isn't this simple math?

14:45:00  <nielsm> coordinates for the most part are in tile numbers, not (x,y) pairs

14:46:19  <nielsm> it's "simple", but there's so many different kinds of game objects that need to be taken into account that making a map resizer would be a huge task with lots of room for mistakes where you forget some detail on some object

14:47:02  <nielsm> which might only lead to issues long after the game has been converted and played for a while, making it hard/impossible to trace back to the cause

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15:52:39  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Berbe opened issue #9782: [Bug]: Dedicated server requires useless client_name https://git.io/J9s6r

16:47:08  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep opened pull request #9783: Cleanup #9725: Replace cmd_helper related functions and remove cmd_helper.h https://git.io/J9sPm

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17:21:53  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/team] glx22 commented on issue #286: [es_ES] Translator access request https://git.io/J9soW

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17:48:29  <TrueBrain> meh, function support is annoying .. means I need to be able to clone objects ..

17:48:32  <TrueBrain> a function might be used more than once

17:48:40  <TrueBrain> and so for inlining I need the ability to clone :P

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18:03:39  <TrueBrain> right, that works .. now conditions .. pam pam pammm

18:03:52  <TrueBrain> meh, not tonight :)

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18:10:30  * andythenorth just got on a roll with FIRS :P

18:50:10  <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/J9s7B

18:50:11  <DorpsGek>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

19:02:53  <andythenorth> hmm

19:38:52  <andythenorth> code is fun

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20:37:45  <peter1138> hm

20:42:22  <andythenorth> yes

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21:51:33  <peter1138> Hmm, do I have to be foolish tomorrow?

21:51:51  <TrueBrain> only if you want to!

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22:05:01  <LordAro> OFTC having a bad time this evening

22:06:16  <TrueBrain> you see that rarely these days

22:12:16  <supermop_Home> could i add base set sprite numbers to this? https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_default_house_properties

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