IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2021-12-18
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00:34:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 updated pull request #9745: Fix #9720: Delay start of GS/AI to after loading of savegame https://git.io/JDlYm
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09:26:44 <LordAro> andythenorth: still not 2022
09:28:17 * andythenorth designing a pipeline grf
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11:02:31 * andythenorth trying to work out how regions could be done
11:03:11 <andythenorth> so that e.g. coal mines, locate in a region of the map, and not elsewhere
11:03:21 <andythenorth> as far as I can see, it's impossible
11:04:14 <andythenorth> I was going to try doing it in grf, but it's trivially pathological
11:20:15 <peter1138> Of course it's not impossible.
11:23:53 <andythenorth> well nothing is impossible :P
11:27:20 <peter1138> Apparently me actually going out on the bike is impossible...
11:31:09 <andythenorth> maybe it's grf authors that are impossible :P
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11:36:19 <andythenorth> what I can't figure out
11:36:28 <andythenorth> is if say, SE quadrant of map is for 'coal mines'
11:36:32 <andythenorth> but it's all sea?
11:38:45 <dP> what do you even expect grf to do in that case? :p
11:38:52 <dP> what if the whole map is sea?
11:46:48 <andythenorth> this is why it's impossible no?
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12:07:24 <andythenorth> maybe some kind of criteria for a region?
12:07:45 <andythenorth> "cannot be sea" or something?
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12:24:11 <peter1138> Windows 11 is a bit half-arsed isn't it?
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13:12:25 <andythenorth> pfizer this time, not AZ
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17:06:52 <frosch123> damn, i found a flaw in reality... if all newgrf have 4 letter names, then tb can only create on grf ever :(
17:28:34 <TrueBrain> I am afraid you have to explain your thought process there :P
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17:30:31 <frosch123> i was just thinking of my love, and then i saw FIRS in chat. so i wondered how TrueFIRS would be named. but TrueFIRS is not 4 letters, and even if you go for TIRS, then the T can be either recursive or mean True
17:31:10 <TrueBrain> yeah .. I regret asking :P
17:31:32 <frosch123> with the right wording you can always avoid further questions
17:33:37 <TrueBrain> right, ditched React .. time to see if I can get everything to work again in another framework ..
17:39:40 <andythenorth> "and then I ditched React..." seems to be a common pattern
17:41:12 <TrueBrain> it is such a shitty framework
17:41:17 <TrueBrain> I was using it as "everyone was"
17:41:23 <TrueBrain> but .. omg .. it is horrible
17:42:12 <frosch123> there are python frameworks which jit stuff to html5. maybe there are similar things in rust, so you can write the gui in rust?
17:42:44 <TrueBrain> meh; found another framework that seems much better .. we will see :)
17:57:24 * andythenorth still in FIRS land
17:57:39 <andythenorth> anybody know about chemicals industry? :P
18:02:35 <TrueBrain> yippie, Netherlands back in lockdown \o/
18:03:13 <TrueBrain> happy I don't need to do xmas shopping ...
18:03:23 <LordAro> a whole 14k cases? those are rookie numbers
18:08:12 <TrueBrain> I love that we are looking at the UK to see what not to do :P
18:10:05 <Rubidium> well... you have been catching up on us the last week. Last month we basically had double the number of cases per million compared to England
18:14:26 <TrueBrain> worst part of this, that they decided today to do this lockdown .. which means if you planned any form of xmas shopping next week .. you are screwed!
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18:17:00 <andythenorth> we will be in lockdown soon
18:17:13 <andythenorth> it's just politically difficult
18:35:53 <LordAro> maybe someone should try actually looking at the doxygen output ;)
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18:36:31 <LordAro> (the command output, not (necessarily) the html output)
18:39:01 <glx> lot of undocumented stuff in script
18:41:36 <LordAro> would be useful if we could somehow diff it against previous master build, so at least we don't introduce more warnings
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21:02:21 <TrueBrain> (happens if you disable all cargoes, so I understand what it is trying to say, but .. weird)
21:03:06 <andythenorth> so map regions then?
21:03:32 <andythenorth> I wonder how often people see that message though :)
21:04:00 <glx> shouls happen only when writting an industry grf
21:05:42 <TrueBrain> still a weird error :P
21:05:56 <glx> it's missing a dot at least
21:10:03 <TrueBrain> okay, Svelte is 100x better than React ..
21:10:07 <TrueBrain> at least the code is understandable
21:10:10 <TrueBrain> and it "just works"
21:10:32 <glx> no need to use a hammer ?
21:15:58 <TrueBrain> and I love I got the dark theme for free :D
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22:13:46 <peter1138> Is it reusing an error that's used if no vehicles are present?
22:14:16 <frosch123> no cargos means no vehicles
22:14:40 <frosch123> it's not "reuseing", it's the thing
22:14:43 <glx> and I don't think we check for no cargo
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