IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2021-08-06
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03:00:56 <Gustavo6046> What are cars and trucks most profitable for?
03:01:07 <Gustavo6046> Is long-distance worth it?
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03:07:59 <Gustavo6046> there's like 1000 online things about it lol
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08:32:48 <andythenorth_> "Decide town growth" callback
08:39:17 <FLHerne> Gustavo6046: If you're in it just for the money, RVs are pretty much never worth it
08:39:51 <FLHerne> they're good for towns/industries that aren't big enough for an expensive railway line
08:40:17 <FLHerne> or for distribution within cities without demolishing everything
08:41:26 <FLHerne> Passenger-collecting feeder buses in cities, with transfer orders that send the passengers off on a fast train to the other side of the map, are probably the most profitable thing you can do with them
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10:11:27 <Timberwolf> IMO the issue with road vehicles in vanilla is they're way too expensive - matching the throughput of a train is something like 3x-5x the cost.
10:15:24 <Timberwolf> It also doesn't help that the first generation is both bad and long-lived; you have 30 years or so where you have access to 80-90mph trains, but all the road vehicles are stuck at 30mph.
10:16:03 <Timberwolf> TTO may have been slightly better balanced, where the second generation road vehicles were 70mph (as opposed to TTD, where second gen is 55 and then there's a "future" generation in 2005 or so)
10:20:29 <Timberwolf> Of course, there is the "realism" argument that road vehicles (at least in Europe) did genuinely suck for long-distance cargo transport until the mid-1960s, and even then weren't great until the power levels went up from ~180hp up to 300 or so in the late 1970s.
10:25:07 <andythenorth_> Steam Lorry Dictatorship
10:26:44 <Timberwolf> It surprised me when I was researching how much better than the equivalent petrol lorries they were, performance-wise.
10:28:15 <Timberwolf> Imagining back in the 1930s, you're struggling to get your Leyland lorry up past 20mph and someone in a Sentinel absolutely blasts past you at 35.
10:29:04 <Timberwolf> TTD doesn't really have the "this is complicated and annoying to maintain" aspect beyond basic running costs.
10:32:30 <andythenorth_> especially when I turn breakdowns off :P
10:32:36 <Timberwolf> Also speed limits.
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16:02:45 <peter1138> I don't know what piano to get :(
16:21:46 <LordAro> peter1138: what options are you looking at?
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17:50:35 <Wolf01> I'm a bit devastated, I'm sitting here doing nothing... luckily I'm on vacation now
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17:59:18 <Starbud> I was looking for another channel, an openttd channel for the reddit servers, i was looking at freenode but i must be mistaken, anyon having an idea what i'm looking for?
17:59:40 <Starbud> the game itself closed permanently today
18:00:04 <Starbud> and i didnt write the server or channel down :(
18:03:57 <FLHerne> Starbud: There's #/r/openttd
18:04:34 <FLHerne> "closed permanently" ?
18:05:05 <FLHerne> Oh, I see the post on the subreddit now
18:05:55 <FLHerne> That's a pity, it was the best casual-stock-gameplay multiplayer server for many years
18:07:41 <Starbud> i have been on it for the last half year
18:09:48 <Starbud> someone called FlowSkate created copies
18:10:22 <Starbud> he/she even got the coding for something driving some website aswell
18:10:44 <Starbud> so he got good support form luaduck who created the reddit servers
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18:42:18 <Starbud> seems i have found it, thanks FLHerne
18:42:38 <Starbud> atleast i can see one well known name
19:30:55 <andythenorth> took 2 hours for that game
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21:59:29 <Gustavo6046> there is something missing
21:59:35 <Gustavo6046> why can't I check the jukebox from the main menu?
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