IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-06-24
            
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02:15:56 <Speeder> the order you define industries in a nml changes anything?
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02:36:16 <glx> it changes the ids, but usually it doesn't really matter
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02:52:13 <Speeder> FIRS generated nml is very messy... is that normal in nmls in general or it is just FIRS?
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08:27:56 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/Jfpuo
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11:13:32 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] abmyii commented on pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/Jfpoq
11:14:47 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] abmyii updated pull request #8236: Fix #7772: Show destination on mouseover when vehicle stopped (and not in depot) https://git.io/JfpUS
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12:01:39 <FLHerne> Speeder: Mostly FIRS, or generated code in general
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15:05:36 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened pull request #8237: Feature: Increase max possible distance from border for oil refineries and rigs https://git.io/Jfp95
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15:46:05 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #8237: Feature: Increase max possible distance from border for oil refineries and rigs https://git.io/Jfp7e
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17:08:24 <milek7> woah
17:08:29 <milek7> they redesigned github
17:09:11 <andythenorth> I got that a while back
17:09:16 <andythenorth> gradual rollout
17:09:25 <andythenorth> it's not worse
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17:14:23 <nielsm> at least it's wider
17:14:30 <nielsm> I'm not sure I like the flatter buttons
17:15:23 <nielsm> but that's the circle of UI design: flat, strong 3D bevels, weaker 3D bevels, gradients, back to flat
17:17:03 <nielsm> sometimes taking a detour through skeuomorphism
17:22:06 <milek7> it is wider, though?
17:22:12 <milek7> code/issues/pull/... bar moves to edges
17:22:28 <milek7> but body still says centered with fixed size
17:22:36 <nielsm> it uses more of the width of my browser window in most views
17:24:07 <nielsm> e.g. the issues list used to be something more like this: https://0x0.st/i404.png
17:27:46 <milek7> silly, that code/issues bar is so far away near edge
17:27:48 <milek7> but code block still won't expand to all that free space
17:27:51 <milek7> https://i.imgur.com/0CQ90J2.png
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17:29:13 <milek7> (not that previously it was wider, but it was more consistent at least)
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18:07:47 <Cursarion> so, has the thingie with one way roads and drive-through stops been fixed? I think once upon a time they only worked for one side
18:08:11 <Cursarion> like, can you get both one-way lanes to use drive-through stops
18:10:12 <LordAro> nothing in that area has changed recently
18:10:20 <LordAro> so unless it was fixed years ago...
18:10:23 <Cursarion> it's been a few years
18:10:34 <Cursarion> oh well, just installed the latest one, I'll just see if it works
18:11:21 <nielsm> roadvehs don't even use the second lane of one-way roads normally
18:11:43 <nielsm> and overtaking is almost just a visual trick
18:12:01 <LordAro> and road vehicle stations have no concept of "one way"
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18:21:24 <dP> what's the fastes way to link a standalone .so for testing with new cmake stuff?
18:21:41 <Cursarion> so it's half the efficiency with one-way drive-through stops?
18:25:50 <nielsm> yes, a drive-through linked directly to a one-way road will only ever have one side of it filled
18:28:03 <nielsm> and that's one (more) reason I think NewRoadStops should be ambitious and allow custom layouts and paths through
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18:28:18 <LordAro> dP: not entirely sure what you're doing, but target_link_libraries(openttd /path/to/library.so) should work?
18:28:21 <LordAro> https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/command/target_link_libraries.html
18:30:32 <dP> LordAro, yeah, seems to work, thx
18:30:39 <Cursarion> nielsm: that's a bummer
18:32:10 <Cursarion> also, if you're choosing to have water at the map edge, is it possible to make the water are bigger? I'd like to have bit more of the ocean there
18:39:13 <nielsm> that's not configurable now
18:39:38 <LordAro> Cursarion: you can increase the amount of water generally by increasing the sea level
18:39:53 <LordAro> won't necessarily increase the amount of water at the edge though
18:47:07 <Cursarion> yep. it'd be handy
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19:22:02 <Wolf01> Nas back online, and disk errors disappeared
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19:45:54 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JfhJv
19:45:54 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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19:47:19 <LordAro> Wolf01: i would treat it with suspicion
19:49:58 <nielsm> yeah it's definitely a Backup Forcing Event
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20:17:07 <Wolf01> I flashed the firmware... that's what always had problems, my first nas died for disk problems and it was totally different
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20:19:23 <Wolf01> Yesterday I ran a check on the disk... no errors, but the nas continued to say there were errors
20:20:20 <Wolf01> Rebooted... no boot
20:22:25 <andythenorth> today was mostly cookie law
20:22:26 <andythenorth> and PECR
20:23:08 <TrueBrain> hmmm ... cookies :)
20:23:12 <TrueBrain> can I have some? :D
20:23:29 <Wolf01> Today was mostly "boss: we are in 2020, how a web app can't handle 200k+ records loaded in memory and do stuff with it?"
20:30:24 <TrueBrain> Today I found out that my room temperature has a direct correlation with my ability to write reports :D
20:33:53 <andythenorth> you and all my employees
20:33:55 <andythenorth> and me
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20:34:19 <andythenorth> I sat in the dark and read https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2014/wp224_en.pdf
20:34:22 <andythenorth> and https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2012/wp194_en.pdf
20:36:00 <TrueBrain> sounds like fun :D
20:36:53 <TrueBrain> (please don't ask me to read them :P)
20:38:14 <andythenorth> TrueBrain please can you read them?
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20:38:22 <TrueBrain> ragequits
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20:38:47 <LordAro> this afternoon has been replacing some js with some php
20:38:57 <TrueBrain> so one bad for one worse
20:38:57 <TrueBrain> nice
20:39:30 <LordAro> pretty much
20:40:06 <TrueBrain> I hate that my airco is installed in 4 weeks ... but it is now 30+ degrees outside .. FML :P
20:40:15 <TrueBrain> is installed? Will be installed
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20:45:33 <Wolf01> I can't understand if we can't turn on the air conditioned system because the fear of covid or because it doesn't work at all
20:45:59 <TrueBrain> lolz .. I am happy at the office we can run airco just fine :)
20:46:04 <Wolf01> 34°C the last 2 days here
20:46:05 <TrueBrain> sadly, we are not really welcome in the office :P
20:47:21 <TrueBrain> 34 ... that is well behind my "able to work" temp :P
20:47:31 <TrueBrain> I do love staring walls when it gets that hot :D
20:47:43 <TrueBrain> or play the game: DO NOT MOVE A MUSCLE
20:47:52 <milek7> almost nobody cares now about covid there
20:48:56 <Wolf01> Even there nobody does, and everyone is walking around protecting the chin only... because you all know you get the covid from the chin
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21:10:21 <frosch123> apparently it is spread via raw meat
21:23:46 <Wolf01> I have the luck to live in one of the least hit area of north Italy, but here is full of idiots
21:25:46 <frosch123> here >30% of new cases are in the meat industry
21:26:35 <Wolf01> That's because of the living conditions of the workers, as I read
21:26:48 <frosch123> yep, modern slavery
21:27:30 <frosch123> clothes can be done in 3rd world, meat is done here
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21:30:59 <andythenorth> where is PECR compliance done?
21:31:22 <frosch123> in your bath room
21:45:00 <Wolf01> Like google's testing on the toilet?
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22:38:44 <supermop_Home> Wolf01 my office is a small room in my apartment with no ac
22:39:21 <supermop_Home> tho only 30C here today
22:39:50 <supermop_Home> Monday was about 34
22:42:13 <supermop_Home> also what infuriates me is the people who wear the mask over their mouth but below their nose
22:42:20 <supermop_Home> like, why?
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23:31:33 <Wolf01> <supermop_Home> like, why? <- exactly
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