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00:00:20 <andythenorth> could work :)
00:00:23 <andythenorth> also bed
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00:06:22 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8063: Fix #8055: Always allow building any available roadtypes, even if there are no road vehicles available https://git.io/JvxQK
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01:49:10 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Eddi-z commented on pull request #8063: Fix #8055: Always allow building any available roadtypes, even if there are no road vehicles available https://git.io/Jvxda
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08:59:23 <andythenorth> o/
09:12:58 <peter1138> Yes.
09:13:29 <peter1138> I need to either a) stop eating salad or b) go to the supermarket :/
09:14:13 <peter1138> c) just play games
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09:16:39 <andythenorth> I went to Tesco last week
09:17:03 <andythenorth> it was still there
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09:21:25 <peter1138> It's scary now though.
09:23:44 <andythenorth> because it's outside?
09:24:23 <peter1138> No, because it's full of other people who don't understand rules.
09:24:50 <andythenorth> rules were strongly in effect at Tesco
09:25:14 <andythenorth> obviously quite weird
09:26:45 <peter1138> They are there, but it only takes a few people ignoring them to ruin it all.
09:26:55 <peter1138> And the staff themselves ignore them.
09:27:39 <peter1138> I wonder if they think the "social" part of "social distancing" only applies to their specific socializing activities, not everything...
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11:25:42 <Samu> hi
12:05:55 <Wolf01> <peter1138> I wonder if they think the "social" part of "social distancing" only applies to their specific socializing activities, not everything... <- I wonder why people use the face mask while driving alone
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12:23:55 <Flygon> Wait.
12:23:57 <Flygon> Wait wait wait.
12:24:00 <Flygon> peter1138
12:24:04 <Flygon> There's an option other than c?
12:24:36 <Wolf01> Smart(?)working
12:24:51 <peter1138> Flygon, my employer would hope so.
12:27:01 <andythenorth> FML
12:27:08 <andythenorth> my employer is right here *at* home
12:27:15 <andythenorth> frigging nightmare
12:27:27 <Wolf01> My employer is trying to waste some time... today is "why don't you come here and grab this smartphone to evaluate this application?" I need to do 40km to get there, for a fucking smartphone, for an app which could give me some ideas to develop our one.
12:27:59 <Wolf01> Only because I don't have android/iphone
12:28:21 <peter1138> Emulate ;)
12:28:41 <peter1138> Time-wise, setting that up would probably take longer.
12:28:44 <Wolf01> Ahahah I tried, bluestacks doesn't get well with hyper-v enabled
12:29:23 <peter1138> Ah yes, the weird "ONLY I CAN CONTROL THIS" bollocks that happens :/
12:29:35 <Wolf01> I bet the next step is "now that you have an android smartphone, use whatsapp"
12:30:15 <Wolf01> I'm avoiding to buy a non-windows smartphone exactly to not use whatsapp
12:40:50 <milek7> I think android sdk emulator does use hyper-v
12:42:14 <milek7> 'VM acceleration on Windows can use one of two hypervisors: the Intel Hardware Accelerated Execution Manager (HAXM) or the Windows Hypervisor Platform (WHPX).'
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14:10:28 <peter1138> STOP. SALAD TIME!
14:25:28 <andythenorth> oof
14:25:32 <andythenorth> I forgot to lunch
14:25:42 <andythenorth> the problem is that every morning I eat a packet of cookies
14:28:55 <peter1138> Oof
14:53:58 <Wolf01> <andythenorth> the problem is that every morning I eat a packet of cookies <- how big? We have packets with 2, 3, 6, 10, ~50 cookies here :P
14:54:09 <andythenorth> about 10
14:54:25 <andythenorth> hmm, I should stop trying to rss and json ld
14:54:29 <andythenorth> at least until I have lunch
14:58:02 <Flygon> Now I just want to buy a bag of 100 Biscuits and inevitably suffer the Acid Reflux and Sugar Headache that would result.
14:58:08 <Flygon> Thanks #openttd :D
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15:01:03 <peter1138> Sugar headache? Is that a thing?
15:01:24 <peter1138> I get sugar head, but that's just craving more sugar...
15:01:38 <peter1138> Probably good that I didn't order lots of beer for this weekend...
15:01:56 * andythenorth has small pasta tubes with cheese
15:02:07 <peter1138> Delightful.
15:02:13 <peter1138> I'm running low on salad again.
15:02:21 <peter1138> Might need to do another essentials shop.
15:02:50 <peter1138> Should've paid more attention and just planted everything I need, eh?
15:03:17 <andythenorth> oof :)
15:03:21 <Flygon> peter1138: You clearly haven't binged as hard as I do. :D
15:03:22 <peter1138> Malt, hops, barley...
15:03:38 <peter1138> Flygon, I've often binged such that I cannot move.
15:03:42 <Flygon> ...
15:03:44 <peter1138> In my past life, at least.
15:03:48 <Flygon> Okay, we just have different body chemistry then. :D
15:04:05 <Flygon> The Sugar Headaches have happened my whole life.
15:04:13 <Flygon> I got worried at one point and thought I was diabetic.
15:04:24 <peter1138> I mean... I'd be worried, I've never heard of them before.
15:04:29 <Flygon> But... no, my body just overreacts to Sugar. I think it's a blood pressure thing. :D
15:04:45 <Flygon> It's a bit like.
15:05:02 <Flygon> If I drink a Soft Drink that has Sugar in it, my brain gets overwhelmed and I essentially become drunk.
15:05:23 <Flygon> But if I eat Chocolate in Solid Form, doesn't get digested so quickly as to overwhelm my body.
15:05:33 <Flygon> I think my body just overprocesses Sugar way too quickly. O_o"
15:05:41 <peter1138> What about processed food, like bread?
15:05:46 <Flygon> It's happened my whole life.
15:05:49 <Flygon> Bread? Bread's fine.
15:06:22 <Flygon> I can and will overbinge on carbs if given the chance tho. Been trying to break that habit.
15:06:27 <peter1138> Sugary drinks are of course known for making everyone hyperactive, but that's not a headache.
15:06:48 <Flygon> Oh, the headache comes in combo with my brain being unable to concentrate and go 160mph. :D
15:07:09 <Flygon> Then again, caffeine makes me feel tired AND unable to sleep so. :D
15:07:24 <Flygon> I have absolutely no idea how normal people enjoy life. :D
15:08:50 <peter1138> Anyway, I can order a fruit & veg box from random farm shops, at vast expensive.
15:09:00 <peter1138> But nobody seems to offer a fruit & salad box :/
15:09:32 <peter1138> I'm not interested in tons of root vegetables...
15:09:56 <Flygon> Ouff.
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15:55:52 <Samu> fast food
15:56:08 <Samu> it's food, and want to be transported fast!
16:03:00 <Samu> i wonder if i can make the pathfinder build 2 tile sized aqueducts
16:03:38 <Samu> 3, it can
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17:28:23 <Wolf01> <Flygon> If I drink a Soft Drink that has Sugar in it, my brain gets overwhelmed and I essentially become drunk. <- same here, me, my mother, and my sister all have problems with sugar, I become drunk, they start to sweat and shiver at the same time
17:29:25 <Wolf01> And I'm not talking about soft drinks, but cakes and other food full of sugar
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17:46:43 <luaduck> stupid question: does the `clients` command have support for listing IPv6 addresses?
17:47:18 <luaduck> I'm connected via IPv6 and I seem to have been given the address of 172.25.0.1, which is obviously a private address
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18:32:14 <Samu> i'm listening to sad music again https://www.rtp.pt/play/p287/e463017/argonauta
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18:38:23 <Samu> wow im listening to music from 1978, I'm really sad
18:42:47 <peter1138> What's... the problem with that?
18:50:53 <arikover> Sad memories about Jimmy Carter maybe?
19:01:16 <andythenorth> well
19:01:24 <andythenorth> we should OpenTTD or something
19:05:30 <Samu> Apparently I can't make easy 2-tile wide aqueducts
19:07:44 * andythenorth closes zoom, must be the end of the working week
19:07:47 <andythenorth> and whereby
19:19:18 <Wolf01> I'll have at least 2 other meetings tomorrow... also I must finish the project by one week ago
19:24:19 <_dp_> is there any good solution to oil rig infestation?
19:24:20 <_dp_> https://i.imgur.com/FptgN6G.png
19:25:13 <nielsm> only allowing one of each industry per town?
19:26:05 <nielsm> make industry density founding-only and have a GS create industries instead?
19:26:08 <FLHerne> You could minimize the max distance from the edge
19:26:15 <FLHerne> (min allowed seems to be 12 tiles)
19:26:23 <nielsm> make a newgrf that override oil rig placement rules and prevents them from being too close?
19:26:33 <peter1138> Let's do an OpenTTD coding livestream!
19:26:39 <FLHerne> Then you only have a border of oil rigs, rather than the whole map
19:26:41 <peter1138> (Just, not me)
19:26:46 <_dp_> well, I can disable oil rigs altogether but kinda wanted to have them just not in such ridicullous quantities
19:27:11 <FLHerne> Didn't Pikka do a pixelling livestream once?
19:29:09 <_dp_> and don't want to have newgrf either
19:31:58 <nielsm> you could also make a GS that deletes oil rigs spawning too close to others...
19:32:16 <_dp_> yeah, I guess
19:32:32 <_dp_> just weird to see that something that silly needs a gs
19:33:31 <nielsm> remember the original game always had the max one of each industry per town restriction, probably in part to avoid that kind of industry overload issues
19:39:00 <_dp_> hm, I can probably enable 1 ind per town after map generation...
19:39:13 <nielsm> that might work
19:39:29 <_dp_> except it would affect funded industries as well :p
19:39:58 <_dp_> disable it for a second when someone funds industry xDDD
19:40:46 <nielsm> toggle the setting on for 3 months a year, off rest of the year
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20:15:03 <andythenorth> so I tried adding more industries + cargos to this https://firs-test-1.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/firs-v4-previews/docs/html/economies.html#steeltown
20:15:09 <andythenorth> and concluded there are enough already
20:15:22 <andythenorth> so now I just need to draw all the industry graphics and crap
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20:55:30 <snail_UES_> andythenorth: “vehicle engines” and “vehicle parts” as separate cargoes?
20:55:53 <snail_UES_> “stainless steel” vs “steel sheet” vs “steel wire rod”?
20:56:07 <snail_UES_> talk about micromanaging… I’m not going back and edit my set for this :p
20:58:16 <andythenorth> crates
21:04:58 <Samu> yes! I made it, pathfinder can now build 2-tile wide aqueducts
21:05:13 <Samu> requires too many checks
21:05:22 <Samu> but it was possible
21:25:51 <Samu> I wonder, about aqueducts, do I really need to create a list of bridge types
21:25:57 <Samu> there's only 1 type of aqueduct
21:26:06 <Samu> it would simplify code
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22:23:53 <Samu> there's some tile costs that I don't quite understand. I'm adapting them from a rail pathfinder to a canal pathfinder
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23:14:07 <mcbanhas> Hello everyone
23:15:01 <mcbanhas> I've recently made a forum thread on the subject of creating a manual of style for OpenTTD. Let me know your opinion on the matter: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=86891&p=1230658#p1230658
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23:34:36 <FLHerne> mcbanhas: At a quick look, I like all your proposals
23:35:28 <FLHerne> Except the example proposed text for the signal button, which I found hard to read
23:35:52 <FLHerne> (not that the current version is ideal; it might just mean that button does too much :P)
23:44:20 <mcbanhas> Yeah I am aware
23:44:54 <mcbanhas> It's an overly long tooltip that sadly requires a lenghty description for now
23:50:06 <mcbanhas> Ideally, it would be nice for someone to implement dynamic key shortcuts so we could include them in the tooltips too, I left a suggestion for this under issue #7873, but it will take some time until someone picks it up, if ever...