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00:02:53 <andythenorth> ooh screenshot competition ends tonight/tomorrow
00:06:03 <andythenorth> hmm, I should tell Samu that confirmed covid deaths are currently 3 per million popn :P
00:07:56 <milek7> don't underestimate expotential growth
00:08:02 <andythenorth> maybe not, Spain and Portugal are higher also
00:08:43 <andythenorth> ~everyone underestimates exponential growth
00:08:57 <andythenorth> 2, 4, 16 is really easy to understand
00:09:18 <andythenorth> oh that's squares, but eh
00:10:58 <planetmaker> 100,120,144,173,207,248,...
00:12:32 <andythenorth> ok I reckon if death rate doubles every 4 days, we're all dead in 44 days, so samu is right, hurrah
00:14:17 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that doesn't look like squares
00:14:37 <planetmaker> I didn't intend to post squares but 20% increase steps
00:14:42 <milek7> how crazy is government that plans to organize elections on 10 may?
00:15:43 <planetmaker> 30% increase might be more appropriate though
00:16:20 <planetmaker> 100, 130, 169, 223, 289, ...
00:21:13 <Eddi|zuHause> for ease of calculation, alternating 3/2 and 4/3 work quite well
00:21:41 <Eddi|zuHause> (that averages out as sqrt(2))
00:21:59 <glx> milek7: we had election the day before they announced lockdown
00:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause> (so about 40% increase)
00:24:54 <andythenorth> there are some really interesting publications of small-cohort studies in the Lancet
00:31:53 <rotterdxm> ah yes good channel that
00:32:06 <rotterdxm> i also have that tab open right now actually , will watch in a bit
00:35:18 <planetmaker> yeah, I added that channel to my subscription list
00:37:53 * andythenorth should go to sleep though
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09:38:16 <andythenorth> LordAro we have a winner...
09:38:30 <andythenorth> hmm seems I slept a long time
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10:06:38 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] RailwAI commented on issue #8048: Path is not released, after it was reserved through another train causing a crash https://git.io/JvQtG
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10:14:42 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #1: Add: first version of the content_server rewritten in Python https://git.io/JvQ9F
10:14:49 <TrueBrain> ugh, I can only do comment by comment
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10:20:12 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #1: Add: first version of the content_server rewritten in Python https://git.io/JvQHe
10:21:07 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #1: Add: first version of the content_server rewritten in Python https://git.io/JvQHf
10:22:59 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-api] TrueBrain commented on pull request #3: Add: first version of content-api https://git.io/JvQHJ
10:25:53 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-api] TrueBrain commented on pull request #3: Add: first version of content-api https://git.io/JvQHT
10:44:50 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-server] TrueBrain commented on pull request #1: Add: first version of the content_server rewritten in Python https://git.io/JvQHZ
10:49:08 <TrueBrain> so ... who would be able to create the smallest possible valid grf for me? Like ~100 byte in size. It doesn't have to do anything, just for testing purposes
10:50:51 <TrueBrain> or is the one in NML regression/expected/001_action8.grf about the smallest it gets?
10:51:15 <planetmaker> that's probably as small or not much bigger
10:51:46 <Eddi|zuHause> how big is the emphasis on "smallest"?
10:52:02 <planetmaker> you could leave out the description string, I guess
10:52:08 <TrueBrain> I just need it for test cases, so not really that big Eddi|zuHause :)
10:52:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure you can scratch a byte off here and there
10:52:51 <TrueBrain> I was just now experimenting with OpenGFX, which is not ideal for test-cases :D
10:53:16 <Eddi|zuHause> the regression tests probably work for that .)
10:53:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i lost an eye
10:54:00 <TrueBrain> you are not sure yet?
10:54:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and still no MOM update
10:54:26 <planetmaker> Yeah, you can scrape bytes by making the name and description shorter; if that's not needed... use that first regression
10:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Metro Overhaul Mod is a mod for cities skylines
10:56:37 <Eddi|zuHause> which was a bit thrown off because they implemented part of that functionality in the base game now
10:57:46 <TrueBrain> okay .. to make a regression set for content-api, I need to invent my own language to write test-cases for it ... this will be "fun"
10:57:56 <TrueBrain> that, or use "curl"
10:58:02 <TrueBrain> which is a disaster waiting to happen
10:59:18 <TrueBrain> curl -v -X PUT "${HOST}/new-package/${TOKEN}" -H "accept: */*" -H "Authorization: Bearer NNNN" -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d "{\"version\":\"v0.1-beta4\",\"description\":\"my description\",\"license\":\"GPL v2\",\"name\":\"TestMyPackage\",\"dependencies\":[{\"content-type\":\"newgrf\",\"unique-id\":\"47590101\",\"md5sum-partial\":\"210fdef5\"}],\"compatibility\":[{\"name\":\"master\",\"conditions\":[\">= 1.0.0\",\"< 1.7.0\"]}]}"
10:59:23 <TrueBrain> not sure that is readable in regressions :)
10:59:57 <planetmaker> ehm... for very particular definitons of 'readable' one might agree :)
11:00:09 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: could use a touch of pretty-printing
11:04:36 <TrueBrain> might be nicer to read
11:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause> but that's all-in on the pretty printing, with none of the functionality left to see
11:12:53 <Eddi|zuHause> which is the opposite extreme
11:13:25 <Eddi|zuHause> not necessarily helpful in trying to figure out what's actually happening
11:18:46 <TrueBrain> yeah, but I don't feel like parsing the curl resulsts either :P So this is all just annoying :D Well, it is meant as a regression set, so I guess this will do
11:18:53 <TrueBrain> at least easier to implement in a sane and reproducable way
11:20:21 <NGC3982> how do i install openttd for ubuntu 19.10?
11:20:31 <TrueBrain> apt install openttd
11:22:49 <NGC3982> that seems to install 1.9.1.
11:23:26 <Eddi|zuHause> ubuntu is always a few versions behind
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11:55:23 <TrueBrain> that moment that subprocesses are not killed when you expect them to be :P Lalalalaaaa
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12:09:03 <NGC3982> does multiplayer bots exist in openttd?
12:09:18 <NGC3982> as standalone clients and not server-side AI?
12:12:07 <_dp_> Well, I wrote one so they definitely "exist"
12:15:20 <_dp_> but if you suspect your competitors to be robots I highly doubt it
12:15:29 <_dp_> even though they sometimes look very much like one :p
12:27:44 <Samu> i'd like a client-side ai at times, to see how they'd behave on the existing servers
12:45:29 <andythenorth> isn't that just an AI running in a client?
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12:56:04 <TrueBrain> "2020-03-29 11:55:48 ERROR Regression failed for regression/001_success_newgrf.yaml"
12:56:06 <TrueBrain> well, that seems to work
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13:20:28 <andythenorth> I have wifi APs overlapping so that every room is in -40dBm to -60dBm range
13:20:47 <andythenorth> but macos is configured to hold the current AP until signal drops to -75dBm
13:20:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i've spent way too much on C:S DLCs and still don't have all of them :/
13:22:37 <andythenorth> so my laptop holds the signal to an AP that is doing 100Mbps instead of switching to the one that is doing 700Mbs
13:23:08 <andythenorth> this is becoming a dumb concern, because broadband is 160Mbps on a good day :P
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13:24:29 <Eddi|zuHause> if only you had a useful os that you could actually configure
13:24:52 <Eddi|zuHause> MacOS is very "if it doesn't work in the default configuration, it won't work at all"
13:26:55 <andythenorth_> I have changed the setting, but there are 6 more apple devices in the house and I can't be bothered to change it on those
13:27:32 <andythenorth_> the intent of the default is to stop it flapping between nearby APs, with potentially several seconds of handshake
13:28:01 <andythenorth_> based on mesh network designs that are supposed to overlap at 67dBm
13:29:31 <andythenorth_> I should probably have bought Ubiquiti mesh gear instead of this discounted-on-amazon TP-link system
13:30:09 <andythenorth_> it's all magical auto-self-configuring, no user controls
13:30:34 <andythenorth_> the APs have to overlap at -50dBm because my house isn't big enough to put them further apart
13:31:13 <andythenorth_> but thick internal walls mean I can't just put 2 central APs, they can't cover the outlying rooms
13:31:25 * andythenorth_ should join a wifi forum or something eh, this is so OT
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13:34:47 <rotterdxm> hi, i´m doing more work on the mediterranean buildings, have had 3 people now that suggest it could be a town building set. i´m going to see how far I get; other than the farms and some water based buildings, FIRS and CHIPS style objects is pretty complete
13:35:55 <rotterdxm> was thinking water wells, hacienda style buildings, small church/chapel, market stalls. if anyone has ideas for objects like those i´m open to try making them
13:35:55 <andythenorth_> it looks pretty good eh :)
13:36:05 <andythenorth_> are you doing them as objects, or houses?
13:36:08 <rotterdxm> yeah definitely, i am so stunned by those screenshots by Alex
13:36:15 <rotterdxm> they are currently objects based on the flour mill
13:36:23 <rotterdxm> and one of those plantation buildings
13:36:30 <andythenorth_> I might have to do a house set, it's the only way to fix FIRS v4
13:36:31 <rotterdxm> go figure how much I could make from those
13:36:48 <rotterdxm> spritesheet is frigging huge right now
13:37:15 <rotterdxm> i am seriously considering mediterranean building set
13:37:25 <rotterdxm> i´m currently touching up the cobblestone NRT from supermop
13:37:31 <rotterdxm> to have more rounded corners
13:38:30 <rotterdxm> what´s a good ratio of larger to smaller buildings for a town set?
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13:39:52 <rotterdxm> i can add my own categories right, like banks, hospitals, water towers, libraries already exist
13:42:01 <andythen_> water towers and banks are industries in the default game
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14:11:32 <Samu> why is Localization/Volume Units a game setting, i thought it was gui only
14:11:45 <Samu> intriguing, must investigate
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14:13:30 <Samu> a 14 years old kid died to corona
14:15:13 <andythen_> Samu is this news or is it disturbing you?
14:15:43 <Samu> news headlines... i guess
14:16:56 <andythen_> the clinically serious effects of covid in a paediatric cohort are minimal
14:17:14 <andythen_> the main suspected issue is asymptomatic kids infecting adults
14:17:22 <andythen_> i.e. kids kill grandma
14:17:57 <andythen_> no-one is 100% not at risk, and every death is a tragedy etc
14:20:06 <andythen_> right now, 2019-2020 flu is much more concerning for kids
14:20:33 <andythen_> one of the highest child flue death rates in USA since 2004, but we're used to flu so we discount it
14:22:49 <Samu> oh, localisation settings other than volumes units are also saved in the savegame
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14:28:29 <Samu> a few months ago I had the idea to make recessions last longer
14:29:54 <Samu> how long should they last?
14:32:00 <andythen_> from 2008 until 2018 :P
14:37:32 <TrueBrain> yippie, I can now decently test content-api :)
14:37:36 <TrueBrain> now to write test-cases ... lol
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14:56:58 <Samu> how much is uint8 i forgot
14:57:24 <Samu> ok recessions can last up to 255 years, :)
15:17:29 <Samu> there are 3 settings with the name "economy"
15:17:52 <Samu> kinda surprised they don't mess up with each other
15:19:36 <Samu> DifficultySettings / Economy
15:20:14 <Samu> EconomySettings / Economy
15:46:14 <Samu> interesting, recessions don't actually last 12 months as I thought
15:47:02 <NGC3982> _dp_: how do i go about to try your ai then? :)
15:47:12 <Samu> they last between 9 and 12 months
15:47:33 <_dp_> NGC3982, it's not an ai, it's a python script to test server
15:47:45 <_dp_> and it's neither finished nor public :p
15:59:10 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/content-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #1: Add: first version of the content_server rewritten in Python https://git.io/Jvi4P
16:00:15 <TrueBrain> so .. 300+ lines to be able to run regression .. sounds like a bit much, but at least now I can be motivated to write regression-tests :D
16:07:45 <Samu> recession happens every 26-47 years in openttd
16:08:25 <Samu> if a recession is to last 255 years, there would be only 26-47 years after with no recession
16:09:03 <Samu> I think 255 years is an absurd duration
16:09:27 <Samu> must google recession durations
16:13:22 <TrueBrain> sorry for spam; finetuning GitHub Actions ...
16:16:00 <Samu> im gonna put a limit of 10 years
16:16:13 <Samu> according to google, the longest recession in US was ~6years
16:40:16 <Samu> is "approximately up to" a thing?
16:42:36 <rotterdxm> ¨up to approximately¨ is
16:45:49 <Samu> if i set 10 years, it's not exactly 10 years, it's 10 years - random_number_of_months from 0 to 30
16:46:59 <Samu> so, between 6 years and 8 months and 12 years
16:47:37 <Samu> 6 years and 6 months, my math is off
16:48:24 <Samu> it's actually 7 years and 6 months
17:04:54 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern updated pull request #7981: Feature #7735: Implement protocol handling https://git.io/JvZQ0
17:28:40 <Samu> can a else if cycle be break?
17:29:29 <Samu> if, else if, else if... and i want a break; in one of them to stop checking the next else's
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17:47:05 <TrueBrain> so ... now I want the smallest possible (or at least, small enough) savegame, .cat, .mid and AI/AILib/GS/GSLib .. hmmm .. the last 4 I can do myself
17:47:21 <TrueBrain> nielsm: would you be able to help me out getting a small (~200bytes) sized .cat and .mid file? :D
17:47:45 <TrueBrain> the only requirement: it needs to validate in the new BaNaNaS
17:47:49 <TrueBrain> it is for the regression
17:52:16 <nielsm> for .cat do you mean a sound effects file or a dos version music set?
17:52:39 <TrueBrain> I want a base-music and base-sounds that pass validation and is not too big
17:52:49 <TrueBrain> so I need a valid .cat file for base-sounds :)
17:53:22 <nielsm> I think there is a minimum size a sfx cat file can be due to headers
17:53:31 <nielsm> and required entry count
17:53:42 <TrueBrain> so that leaves a base-music that is small :)
17:53:54 <TrueBrain> so a silent .mid of some kind? :D
17:58:32 <planetmaker> Isn't there the 'no music' set?
17:58:47 <planetmaker> which OpenTTD ships by default
17:58:59 <TrueBrain> on BaNaNaS there is no music set < 5 MiB
18:07:22 <planetmaker> OpenTTD/bin/baseset/no_music.obm ?
18:07:43 <planetmaker> it's basically an empty music set file. As empty as it can get
18:07:58 <TrueBrain> ah, yeah, but I want at least a single midi file too :)
18:08:04 <TrueBrain> as I want to make sure the validation for that works :)
18:08:23 <TrueBrain> but tnx, good to know an empty one also exists :) Weird that it is not on BaNaNaS, but okay :P
18:09:44 * andythen_ writing instructions
18:09:55 <planetmaker> give me a few minutes. I can whip-up something. I hope
18:10:12 <LordAro> andythen_: "Make a new release via GH interface" should do
18:10:20 <LordAro> no need for specific details
18:10:33 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: cheers :)
18:11:35 <TrueBrain> andythen_: what LordAro says, but of course publish .. a draft anything never does something, does it? :D
18:11:49 <andythen_> can't try it live for obvs reasons :)
18:12:25 <TrueBrain> it is the excact same flow as "website"
18:13:16 <nielsm> TrueBrain also there's really two formats of standard midi files that ottd (natively) handles (and the drivers that use external libraries to read the file may support the third format too, and possibly some non-smf formats)
18:13:51 <nielsm> one format has a single track and the other format has multiple tracks played simultaneously, do you want to verify which of the formats is used?
18:14:08 <TrueBrain> we currently do not validate the midi file itself, just check the header
18:14:21 <TrueBrain> might be good to add these things in the future
18:14:27 <TrueBrain> but so for now, any will do for my regression set :)
18:18:50 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth opened pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/JvQjA
18:18:58 <andythen_> finally got all my chores done :)
18:21:13 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] TrueBrain commented on pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/Jv7ef
18:21:33 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] TrueBrain commented on pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/Jv7eJ
18:22:06 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] TrueBrain commented on pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/Jv7eU
18:22:13 <TrueBrain> I found 3 more for you :P
18:22:15 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth updated pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/JvQjA
18:23:20 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth updated pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/JvQjA
18:25:22 <andythen_> does markdown have numbered lists?
18:26:20 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth updated pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/JvQjA
18:26:52 <andythen_> oof does that readme need reformatted?
18:26:56 <TrueBrain> and you miss the step: ask TrueBrain for NSIS bla :P
18:27:15 <andythen_> what is NSIS blah, or do we not need to know? :)
18:27:20 <TrueBrain> Ask TrueBrain to update the OpenGFX for NSIS Windows installer
18:27:32 <TrueBrain> sadly, I need to be told about new OpenGFX releases :P
18:27:40 <andythen_> TrueBrain after publishing? or before?
18:28:08 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth updated pull request #37: Doc: add release instructions to readme https://git.io/JvQjA
18:29:43 <planetmaker> it's the titlegame used from OpenMSX, everything else removed
18:30:14 <planetmaker> can't appropriately test... music does not seem to work on my machine... songs just iterating through at record speed without playing :P
18:30:14 <TrueBrain> 46KB still, but at least it is not megabytes :)
18:30:38 <nielsm> I'm still going to make a tiny midi file
18:30:50 <nielsm> just need to get a ton of stuff set up ....
18:31:19 <planetmaker> I guess I can easily cut it down to 9kB... theme is not the smallest it seems
18:31:46 <planetmaker> lol... It's the biggest midi in OpenMSX :P
18:35:20 <nielsm> there's just about the smallest valid midi file I can think of
18:35:37 <nielsm> grows almost 5x by packing it in a zip file
18:35:56 <nielsm> it's a note-on followed by a note-off
18:36:34 <nielsm> also, it's generated with openttd!
18:37:40 <andythen_> someone approving that readme PR then?
18:37:44 <andythen_> then making the release? :P
18:37:47 <nielsm> it was seriously the most straight forward way I could think of that didn't involve hex editors or downloading new software
18:38:04 <planetmaker> is that just a midi file or a complete baseset already?
18:38:16 <nielsm> that's just a mid file
18:38:37 <planetmaker> ok, let me convert that into a baseset then
18:39:05 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: already done :) But tnx :)
18:39:46 <TrueBrain> you gave enough template to fix that real quick :D
18:40:22 <TrueBrain> regression passes on it :D
18:40:27 <TrueBrain> tnx both :) That helped a lot :)
18:41:25 <TrueBrain> I now have NoNo .. Note On, Note Off :)
18:47:37 <nielsm> hm I guess I could have made test.mid four bytes shorter
18:47:49 <nielsm> if I had it just make a program change (select instrument) and nothing else
18:48:18 <planetmaker> but nono is such a nice name :)
18:48:35 <planetmaker> though seli would do, too
18:50:20 <andythen_> oof nml release also needs done :)
18:50:35 <andythen_> hmm, 5 children are trying to play a 4 player game
18:50:40 <andythen_> I have to do something here
18:52:56 <Samu> the Create Pull Request button... so tempted to press, must resist the urge
18:57:03 <Samu> let's test my AI with 10 years recessions :p
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19:40:14 <Samu> title game competition, i voted for someone who lost, this is why I don't vote
19:50:36 <LordAro> Samu: i feel you have fundamentally missed the point of voting
19:56:58 <Wolf01> LordAro: I think he has a point, at least here the vast majority of people thinks like that
19:59:46 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #8049: Suggestion: Allow Game Scripts to set company loan beyond max loan and independent of cash on hand https://git.io/Jv7Jj
20:00:15 <LordAro> Wolf01: doesn't mean he has a point, just means he's not alone in his thinking
20:00:33 <andythen_> "why bother if I don't win?" :D
20:02:45 <nielsm> "andy then _" -- is this some kind of cards again humanity?
20:02:47 <Wolf01> It's like a football match, if your favourite team loses you lose too
20:03:34 <planetmaker> That's why I don't have a favourite team. I win either way :)
20:04:37 <Wolf01> Heh, that's easy, I switch team instead
20:08:42 <planetmaker> ho, nice buildings
20:09:11 <rotterdxm> all based on the FIRS flour mill and one of those plantation buildings
20:09:41 <planetmaker> I think the doors miss one pixel on the lhs at their top which should also be dark. Not sure though
20:11:09 <rotterdxm> I think i see what you mean. for example the small shed with the fence´s left side door?
20:17:38 <planetmaker> yes, that door looks ok. I was mostly looking at the file with only one building or the top-left building in the other. The other doors seem fine
20:18:07 <planetmaker> maybe the shed with ^^^|| on the left bottom, too
20:18:23 <planetmaker> depends whether it's a square door or one arched at the top :)
20:19:15 <rotterdxm> yeah, i went for arched doors, it looks better basically everywhere
20:19:26 <rotterdxm> thank you for that tip
20:21:32 <rotterdxm> everywhere i added that pixel just improved the look <3
20:38:23 <Samu> bam, the ai didn't surive 10 years of recession
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21:32:06 <supermop_Home_> Samu not sure i would survive 10 years of recession either
21:45:48 <andythen_> I have achieved very little of what I intended to achieve today :P
21:45:53 <andythen_> nor have I played Blitz
22:10:41 <Samu> I'm afraid of pulling requests :(
22:11:35 <LordAro> andythen_: wanna make a changelog as well? then i'll do a release
22:12:26 <andythen_> I am eating, but yes I will
22:12:36 <LordAro> nielsm: planetmaker: TrueBrain: others: how about merging some PRs? i've approved several, would be useful to get another eye over them and get them merged
22:12:54 <TrueBrain> any non-OpenTTD related?
22:13:02 <TrueBrain> (OpenTTD client, that is)
22:13:10 <LordAro> not that i'm aware of
22:13:17 <LordAro> though i think someone wanted an nml release
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22:14:39 <TrueBrain> not sure I can help with thatone :(
22:14:49 <TrueBrain> the moment you realise you never did a pip release
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22:28:58 <Samu> RailwAI pathfinder is so fast, and it's even dual rail
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22:43:15 <andythen_> LordAro ^ probably a mistake in there somewhere but eh
22:45:02 <LordAro> not sure i'd bother with most of those entries, tbh
22:45:34 <andythen_> I just did blind copy-paste
22:45:49 <andythen_> that's the historical convention
22:46:09 <LordAro> i'm not sure that's true
22:46:23 <andythen_> well I am +/-0 to changing it
22:46:36 <andythen_> but AIUI planetmaker just had a script for making changelog from commits
22:46:45 <andythen_> I'm not sure copying commits makes a useful changelog mind
22:47:11 <LordAro> my understanding was that PM's script just generated the initial version, it wasn't what was published
22:47:43 <LordAro> i'd probably just use NRT, road tunnels, animated flags, sprite sizes & offsets
22:48:13 <LordAro> don't suppose there are any "pending" translations from OTTDC?
22:50:27 <LordAro> looks like that didn't get ported to git, might as well include that in the same PR
22:52:03 <andythen_> I am afk for 10 mins, do you want to do it? :)
22:52:23 <LordAro> not sure i have a checkout
23:03:15 <milek7> LordAro: what about gimp 2.10 inconsistency, though?
23:03:53 <LordAro> can fixing the layer order thing be done separately?
23:04:21 <milek7> layer order don't matter for gimpscript
23:04:38 <milek7> but there is some different blending behavior, I'm not sure why
23:06:57 <LordAro> planetmaker: do you mind if i (manually) migrate the remaining OGFX issues from OTTDC?
23:07:25 <LordAro> then you can properly archive/hide/remove the repo
23:37:28 <andythen_> LordAro is it done then? :)
23:39:28 <LordAro> andythen_: it would be if someone other than me & you actually did anything
23:39:34 <LordAro> i can't merge it myself
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