IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-26
            
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00:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> how are there 4 names for meals, when there should be only 3?
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01:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "the game now pauses on load and saves the camera position"... thanks, cities:skylines, took you only 5 years? :p
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09:08:14 <Eddi|zuHause> "FISH 0.9.2" think maybe i should update? :p
09:16:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i noticed a shortcoming of bananas: if you search for common abbreviations like "TTRS" and "eGRVTS", the respective GRF doesn't show up because they didn't use those tags
09:17:37 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, eGRVTS does show up, i'm just blind.
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10:06:05 <Samu> wow, something just happened
10:06:21 <Samu> a big UFO landed inside a town
10:06:59 <Samu> when it was destroyed, tons of houses were also destroyed. This looks like it could happen more times
10:07:16 <Samu> make the UFO land more often in house tiles
10:07:48 <Samu> it ruins transportations that were depending on those houses :)
10:08:00 <Samu> less passengers produced
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12:57:54 <Samu> my AI is almost ready
12:58:50 <Samu> happy with the results so far. It's not perfect, but it's something. It can tackle infrastructure maintenance costs better than last version
13:00:55 <Samu> maybe one day I'll add train and ship support
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13:44:40 <andythenorth> Wolf01 hi
13:44:50 <Wolf01> o/
13:45:19 <andythenorth> how are things where you are?
13:45:32 <Wolf01> Same shit, no changes so far
13:46:30 <andythenorth> I just read a social media thing, long thread from someone in Italy
13:46:35 <andythenorth> wondering how accurate it is
13:46:50 <andythenorth> says there are thousands of bodies, and that many many children are dying
13:47:10 <andythenorth> and that people are running out of food and shops are price gouging
13:47:23 <andythenorth> none of this matches any reporting we have here
13:49:29 <Wolf01> Bah, the usual idiots which found you can say stupid things over internet
13:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> last thing i heard was mayors making angry videos
13:50:19 <Eddi|zuHause> and germany claiming their death rate is lower because they do more testing
13:50:54 <Eddi|zuHause> (which i think left out a load of details)
13:51:02 <andythenorth> it didn't look like the usual moron thread, which is why I ask
13:51:28 <andythenorth> it seemed more like someone who had ignored the situation, and only just realised what was happening, like "omfg, what is this?'
13:51:41 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes morons sound very convincing, that's why they're so dangerous
13:52:20 <andythenorth> +1
13:52:24 * andythenorth back to work
13:52:32 * Wolf01 too
13:52:45 <andythenorth> mostly I discount "suff on the internet" but sometimes I fail :P
13:52:49 <andythenorth> stuff *
13:54:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't bring myself to do any actual work
13:54:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and i've run into a fairly minor bug in stellaris, that completely destroyed my immersion and will to play on
13:54:59 <andythenorth> I find doing work very helpful
13:55:10 <andythenorth> but I had a couple of days of inaction
13:55:19 <andythenorth> much video calling :P
13:55:30 <Wolf01> We are still confusing who should do something, what to do, why we don't reason before doing things and do things directly, repeat.
13:55:50 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i tried to do any work i ran into issues setting up a VPN because i have not enough control over the workplace network, and their network admin wasn't available
13:57:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i fixed the one line of code that was wrong, but 3 hours of setting up various vpns lead me nowhere near getting the fix deployed
13:58:38 <andythenorth> do you work on stuff that is airgapped by design?
13:58:44 <andythenorth> or is it all just legacy reasons?
13:59:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's not airgapped
13:59:53 <Eddi|zuHause> just trying it the naive way didn't seem to work
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15:03:41 <Samu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB6jajr7an0
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15:06:35 <Samu> yesterday I saw a great video about china and how they do the quarantine stuff
15:06:38 <Samu> let me find it
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15:21:38 <supermop_Home_> happy air max day
15:30:18 <Samu> can't find it
15:30:28 <Samu> but found something also interesting https://imgur.com/t/coronavirus/FvlvInK
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15:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> who? what?
15:59:01 <andythenorth> coffee
15:59:53 <LordAro> tea
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16:39:30 <Samu> recessions are scary
16:39:39 <Samu> with infrastructure maintenance costs enabled
16:39:48 <andythenorth> and irl
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17:48:20 <supermop_Home_> its taken me basically since the last recession to put a career back together again
17:49:15 <supermop_Home_> and now that career is basically design almost entirely for the F&B / Hospitality industry
17:49:37 <supermop_Home_> which essentially disappeared overnight a week or so ago
17:58:40 <andythenorth> I'm not being flippant, but there might be opportunity in it somewhere
18:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause> there's two ways to deal with this situation: a) take your things, move on to a different field that you think works out more reliably, or b) wait it out and hope that your target audience is coming back
18:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you know, after an extinction event, there comes a phase of exponential growth. you just have to hold out for long enough
18:31:55 <Wolf01> And not get caught in the extinction
18:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i was kinda implying that in "hold out"
18:38:56 <Samu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q6VeihJUQs - wow, it almost looks like my country is first world
18:55:46 <Samu> wow, the US is moving up fast
18:56:01 <Samu> they're going to overtake China first before Italy
19:08:44 <Samu> how often do ppl that setup AIs change profile settings?
19:08:51 <Samu> difficulty profile
19:09:46 <Samu> how visible should this setting be?
19:21:25 <andythenorth> crash report in .docx eh
19:21:27 <andythenorth> that's new
19:21:34 <andythenorth> (forums)
19:22:52 <Eddi|zuHause> surprising that doesn't happen more often
19:23:05 <Wolf01> Lol, when customers send screenshots (entire screen) of an error in a docx and your boss prints it and you must figure out by yourself what the error was...
19:23:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: like people print out faxes to scan them back in and then email them on?
19:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> a friend of mine worked in a railway logistics office, and they sent contracts per fax that were so low-res you couldn't read the fine print anymore
19:24:40 <Wolf01> Yes, happened that too
19:25:00 <Wolf01> Btw, pizza is ready
19:27:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i had pizza earlier
19:39:29 <Wolf01> andythenorth, are the news from the royal family confirmed?
19:39:31 <Samu> thinking of doing this, with the right colours and clickable buttons, of course https://i.imgur.com/comhYDT.png
19:39:51 <Samu> should I go for it, or is it a waste of time?
19:39:58 <andythenorth> Wolf01 Prince Charles is confirmed covid, according to news
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19:41:27 <andythenorth> quak
19:41:34 <Wolf01> quak
19:43:39 <frosch123> moo
19:44:03 <andythenorth> sitrep frogs?
19:47:25 <Heiki> starting tomorrow, we’ll have “border controls” within our country, https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_shuts_down_uusimaa_to_fight_coronavirus/11276242
19:50:27 <peter1138> andythenorth, well that was yesterday already...
19:50:56 <andythenorth> there's probably some news on social media about it
19:50:58 <andythenorth> or something
19:51:27 <andythenorth> anyway I haven't been out since Saturday
19:51:29 <andythenorth> so pretty normal
19:54:23 <frosch123> i try to walk 1h per day, otherwise i get issues
19:55:29 <frosch123> not enough exercise in home office
19:58:44 <andythenorth> oof I should exercise
19:58:50 <andythenorth> bike
20:01:20 * andythenorth looking on webcams
20:01:29 <peter1138> Well..
20:01:32 <andythenorth> https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/north-yorkshire/york-railway-station.html
20:01:44 <andythenorth> https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/oxfordshire/university-oxford.html
20:01:59 <andythenorth> why is my social media full of people screaming 'WHY ARE YOU ALL GOING OUT'
20:02:24 <andythenorth> oh wait, there's my problem
20:02:25 <andythenorth> social media
20:02:38 <andythenorth> https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/united-kingdom/wales/cardiff/cardiff.html
20:03:18 <peter1138> I cycled on Tuesday evening but really haven't felt like I want to since :/
20:03:34 <peter1138> The whole unnecessary burden thing, if something happened.
20:03:53 <andythenorth> I thought about that when I climbed the tree in my garden to cut branches
20:04:06 <andythenorth> holding the branch I'm cutting in one hand and the saw in the other
20:04:21 <peter1138> At least I am still working.
20:06:19 <andythenorth> man walks dog https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/dorset/west-bay.html
20:06:29 <andythenorth> been to West Bay quite a lot
20:16:35 <peter1138> Time to add more free games to my Epic Games library...
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20:28:02 <Squad3> Hello!
20:34:35 <frosch123> hmm, titlegame vote...
20:40:04 <Samu> i voted already
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20:48:05 <Squad3> Hey, is anyone else having issues accessing OpenSFX etc..?
20:48:12 <Squad3> For some reason it cannot download it during the installation
20:49:18 <Squad3> Or in-game, for that matter
20:49:32 <Squad3> Check online content doesn't work either.
20:50:15 <frosch123> http://binaries.openttd.org/installer/opensfx-0.8.0.7z <- does that work?
20:51:39 <Squad3> Doesn't open the link at all
20:51:47 <Squad3> Says it can't reach the destination host
20:51:58 <frosch123> then the internet is broken
20:52:06 <frosch123> wait a few hours
20:52:16 <Squad3> Alright, no worries! Thanks for the information
20:56:45 <supermop_Home_> maybe i should play openttd
21:04:37 <Squad3> I had to flush my DNS cache, works great now
21:37:24 <Samu> found another bug related to start_date :p
21:37:34 <Samu> but doesn't matter
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21:48:58 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8047: Add: Buttons to select script profile in the AI/GS configuration window https://git.io/Jv91y
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21:50:59 <Samu> oh rats, forgot the widget thing
21:51:02 <Samu> brb
21:53:50 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #8047: Add: Buttons to select script profile in the AI/GS configuration window https://git.io/Jv91y
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21:54:17 <DanMacK> Hey all
21:55:03 <Samu> hi
21:55:15 <orudge> Hey Dan, long time no see
21:55:59 <DanMacK> Hey, definitely. How are you coping with the Covid crisis?
21:56:20 <orudge> Not too badly so far, I'm working from home, but we've also got 3 kids at home, so it's busy!
21:56:24 <orudge> And yourself?
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21:56:36 <DanMacK> You have 3 now? Holy crap am I behind the times... lol
21:56:44 <andythenorth> 3 is a lot
21:56:57 <andythenorth> but with scale comes efficiencies
21:57:35 <orudge> DanMacK: heh, yep. 10, 3 and 1.
22:15:17 <TrueBrain> not meant rude, but so happy I don't have kids atm :P
22:15:36 <TrueBrain> how I see everyone having to juggle work with kids atm ..
22:15:39 <TrueBrain> don't envy you
22:16:36 <orudge> I'm lucky that my wife isn't working at the moment, so she is able to take care of them for the most part during the day. Though I think I will be adjusting my hours a bit next week to assist more.
22:16:46 <orudge> But yes, having them all here all the time is... interesting :P
22:17:09 <TrueBrain> I like having these videocalls with coworkers ... those kids keep popping up
22:17:12 <TrueBrain> DAD I WANT CANDY
22:17:16 <TrueBrain> DAD I WANT TO WATCH TELLY
22:17:18 <TrueBrain> DADDDDDDDD
22:17:19 <orudge> Heh
22:17:20 <TrueBrain> :D
22:17:25 <TrueBrain> its okay, honestly
22:17:27 <TrueBrain> we all have to deal with this
22:17:30 <TrueBrain> but it amuzes me :)
22:17:54 <frosch123> they can also play on trumpets
22:18:38 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds fun
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22:33:18 <Samu> https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30d165377bedbbb06aa736bcb11ddd6fe5dd6a34628f7be8bdf981ad15808dcb.png
22:33:44 <Samu> i was right, usa surpassed china first before italy
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22:36:33 <andythenorth> oof I bought fancy mesh wifi thing
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22:36:46 <andythenorth> and I put one of the APs in my loft, in a cavity cupboard
22:37:11 <andythenorth> but it has insulation with two layers of metal foil :|
22:37:30 <andythenorth> this does not work very well for wifi unless you are inside the cupboard :|
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22:50:30 <FLHerne> On the other hand, if you filled it with wifi transmitters you'd have a microwave :D
22:54:25 <Samu> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7822 is not coming to 1.10, right? :(
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23:43:23 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: metal shielding works great, if you want to block the government's mind control rays. and wifi. :p
23:44:18 <andythenorth> don't you put the foil on your head though?
23:44:24 <andythenorth> or is it better in the loft?
23:45:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not an expert, but i would assume both? or does that cancel each other out? :p
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