IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-25
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09:55:03 <andythenorth> oof oftc keeps dumping me in this new irc client
09:55:10 <andythenorth> other irc servers stay up :P
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13:18:58 <supermop_Home> blue jeans mtg with client and another of their consultants in Sweden = 8 am video call after working til 3:30 on materials for the call
13:19:15 <supermop_Home> really hoping i can avoid turning my camera on
13:19:26 <supermop_Home> its not a pretty sight
13:20:25 <Samu> why's that cloning a vehicle in test mode costs 0?
13:20:52 <supermop_Home> i want to clone a coffee for 0 cost
13:23:17 <Samu> another visual studio update... geee, will they ever stop?
13:24:05 <supermop_Home> how's borisland andythenorth?
13:29:30 <Samu> must investigate why CloneVehicle in test mode costs 0
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13:46:22 <supermop_Home> oof this call is scheduled to be 4 hours long
13:56:48 <andythenorth> has anyone yet said "I'm going for a poo?"
13:59:19 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean, today? :p
14:01:08 <supermop_Home> 1 hour in we are at least 15 min behind the agenda
14:01:31 <andythenorth> I'm usually 1 hour behind 15 mins in
14:01:34 <supermop_Home> so maybe it will be a bonus 5 hour call
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15:07:08 <Samu> for failed commands, it doesn't get the estimated cost :(
15:07:26 <Samu> but it failed because there was not enough money
15:07:39 <Samu> that should be the estimated cost to display
15:10:38 <planetmaker> good when you can or even should mute yourself and have no video :)
15:37:29 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #8045: AI estimated costs are 0 for commands that fail while returning a cost https://git.io/JvSaL
15:43:04 <Samu> who's a DoCommand expert here? :o
15:47:04 <Samu> i have a "fix", but it's a risky one
16:04:42 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8046: Fix #8045: [AI/GS] Estimate costs for failed commands https://git.io/JvSaM
16:06:38 <Samu> I may expect a regression fail in this case
16:14:59 <LordAro> Samu: you should try to improve the regression test in which case
16:19:02 <Samu> for this particular test, regression needs to have no money to clone a vehicle
16:19:20 <Samu> regression as far as I see, works with 500k money
16:20:03 <LordAro> you just need to try to do something that would be too expensive
16:20:08 <LordAro> try to delete the ocean or something
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16:39:52 <Samu> oh, in human company, it errors out, with the cost needed
16:40:04 <Samu> still, it returns the cost
17:02:01 <Samu> What my AI does: It estimates the cost needed first, then loans necessary money and buys vehicle, it does this until it builds all aircraft or until it runs out of money https://i.imgur.com/nA9GIJm.png
17:03:03 <Samu> estimated clone vehicle cost was 0 for 1.10, it loaned 0 and tried to build aircraft :(
17:05:42 <rotterdxm> i blame coronavirus induced isolation, it´s happening everywhere
17:11:04 <Samu> now I remember why I had 2 different clone vehicle functions on my ai
17:56:34 <rotterdxm> wow hardcore internet trouble in NL
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18:31:58 <Wolf01> I just scolded the boss.
18:42:45 <Wolf01> I don't know, I sent an email to the entire team, I think it's coming here to kill me
18:49:17 <rotterdxm> depends on how popular your boss is
18:49:42 <rotterdxm> can the sound of guillotines being erected be heard in your cubicle? you may be safe
18:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> cubicle? home office more likely
18:51:51 <Wolf01> The fact he didn't reply yet may mean that he acknowledged his own fault (usually he doesn't excuse for that)
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19:34:49 <Samu> i tried enabling disasters
19:35:22 <Samu> zepellins crashing into small airports make my AI bankrupt!
19:43:54 <Samu> now that I want the zepelin to crash, it doesn't happen
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20:10:08 <Wolf01> Samu: it's not difficult to write zellepins ;)
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20:39:12 <andythenorth> I have been playing OpenTTD but eh
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20:46:27 <Samu> I upped the difficulty to recessions: on, disasters: on, breakdowns: normal and now testing if the ai survives this
20:47:07 <Samu> disasters are only trouble in 1950s
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21:06:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i've been playing stellaris, but it's going not-quite-right
21:07:11 <Samu> i don't see my AI surviving this...
21:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause> like, i've bought the federations dlc, and then started an isolationist empire that can't join a federation :p
21:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> and also, as an isolationist empire, i'm constantly thinking "if only i could declare offensive war to capture this planet"...
21:11:06 <Samu> bankrupted in 1998 :( man, so sad
21:22:24 <Samu> i need to think when to spend money in town actions
21:24:29 <Samu> building statues and advertising campaigns is cool, but... under these conditions is risky
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22:07:49 <Samu> wow, AI is picking Airtaxi A21 instead of Darwin 600
22:08:15 <Samu> ah, I see, it's due to reliability
22:09:02 <Samu> damn it, bankrupted in 2002
22:18:07 <Samu> testing making the AI a bit more picky about placing airports
22:19:29 <Samu> now it requires 12 houses producing passengers around a suitable place for airport
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