IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2020-03-23
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00:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i've seen worse
00:04:30 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: like, a 3000hp diesel engine for one single passenger car
00:30:14 <supermop_Home_> snail_UES_ Ohio is kind of too far gone to be a swing state anymore
00:51:09 <snail_UES_> supermop_Home_: really? who do you think will win there?
01:02:17 <Eddi|zuHause> snail_UES_: engine colours in germany is... complicated... until the 1920s, it's very fractured so each company did their own thing, then they wanted to make them all black, and in the 1930s they wanted to mix it up again (at least for the high speed trains)
01:02:45 <snail_UES_> yeah, I was referring to the “all black” era
01:03:09 <snail_UES_> high-speed trains in the 1930s were exceptions though, right? I mean limited to a handful of units
01:05:52 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the 1930s saw the rise of diesel units which were something like white/purple, and some steam engines tried to mimic their colour scheme
01:06:02 <Eddi|zuHause> and others were red
01:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> in general, this was cut short by the war
01:20:18 <supermop_Home_> snail_UES_the statehouse has not been up for grabs for nearly a decade
02:29:44 <snail_UES_> Eddi|zuHause: but were entire series painted in colors other than black?
02:29:52 <snail_UES_> maybe the BR 05, but that was only 3 units...
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10:28:46 <blathijs> Any plans for a new nml release? Seems there have been quite some changes since 0.4.5 nearly 2 years ago.
10:29:20 <blathijs> I've got a bug report on Debian that nml fails with Py3.8, which is also fixed in master already. I could backport the fix, but it might be better to just have a new release and use that?
10:31:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not involved with that, but i would have expected an nml release together with the 1.10 release
10:31:53 <Eddi|zuHause> which would be next week-ish?
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10:38:37 <busmania> i will install openttd 1.9.3 on lubuntu 19.10 and i have maneul installed all the package that not automatically install with openttd on my lubuntu version. and i see now the openttd icon but i i click on it nothing happens?
10:46:48 <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause: With OpenTTD 1.10 I assume you mean?
10:46:53 <blathijs> andythenorth: Thanks for the links!
10:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause> blathijs: yes, openttd 1.10
10:48:02 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/nml] matthijskooijman commented on issue #43: Release nml 0.5.x to provide NotRoadTypes support for nml authors https://git.io/Je8v7
10:48:53 <blathijs> busmania: I do not understand exactly which version you are now using, but as for not starting: Try running "openttd" from a terminal and see if that gives any error messages?
10:50:04 <busmania> blathijs: i use lubuntu 19.10 64 bit as os
10:50:21 <busmania> blathijs: i will play openttd 1.9.3
10:51:58 <Eddi|zuHause> busmania: what happens when you type "openttd" in a terminal instead of clicking on the icon?
10:52:26 <busmania> if i click on the icon not happens
10:56:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm feeling a language barrier going on...
10:56:35 <Eddi|zuHause> busmania: please open a console and type "openttd"
11:01:16 <busmania> Eddi|zuHause: i have bin cd to the folder wher i have installed openttd and i get this message: " openttd: symbol lookup error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libiculx.so.60: undefined symbol: _ZNK6icu_6012LayoutEngine14getCharIndicesEPiiR11LEErrorCode "
11:02:19 <Eddi|zuHause> busmania: so you have a problem with libICU
11:03:02 <busmania> i will try to reinstall it. give me a minute
11:14:57 <busmania> Eddi|zuHause: i can't found online a .deb version of libicu.so.60
11:15:52 <busmania> Eddi|zuHause: i have installed libicu60_60.2-3
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18:12:48 <Decapita1> Hey. Do you know if the game log is saved somewhere, or can it only be accessed through the in-game console?
18:25:23 <nielsm> it's saved in the savegame, in binary format
18:26:02 <nielsm> if you mean the gamelog which stores which versions of openttd a savegame has been loaded by and which newgrfs have been loaded and when
18:26:21 <nielsm> if you mean a transcript of the text that appears on the in-game console, I'm not really sure
18:28:43 <_dp_> I think it's part or a regular(stderr) log, at least on some -d options.
18:29:09 <Decapita1> The transcript of the text. I've been thinking if banned players were logged in the game log, how would you parse it. Would you have to copy paste it from the in-game console?
18:30:54 <LordAro> you'd pipe OTTD output into a file, probably
18:31:08 <LordAro> `./openttd 2> stderr.log`
18:31:31 <Decapita1> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks!
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18:34:09 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #8044: Fix #8043, c02ef3e4: Incorrect handling of global road/tram hotkeys https://git.io/Jvycp
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20:16:14 <supermop_Home_> i feel like i wouldn't have to work til 3am on a sunday if we didn't keep havinging these 3 hour meetings in the middle of the day
20:17:03 <andythenorth> ah corporate life
20:17:15 * andythenorth has same issues some days
20:18:32 <Wolf01> I created half of the structure for a new app today
20:19:26 <Wolf01> With a totally new system where I don't have docs and I need to figure everything out by myself and some demo apps
20:19:59 <supermop_Home_> right now i'm in a 15:00 to 18:00 slack call to page turn every slide of a 120 page presentation
20:20:07 <supermop_Home_> and mark it up
20:20:32 <andythenorth> is your contribution invaluable?
20:20:43 <andythenorth> Wolf01 sounds fun
20:21:10 <supermop_Home_> andythenorth chiming in 1-2 sentences every 10 minutes...
20:21:19 <Wolf01> At least is nodejs, so I can do some black magic
20:30:54 * andythenorth trying to work out if tinplate can be inserted to Steeltown
20:31:07 <andythenorth> it would be correct, but the cargo flow diagram gets messy
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22:25:03 <Samu> isn't pr #8040 needing backport?
22:30:38 <Samu> what makes a pr to be backported?
22:30:45 <Samu> what exactly does it do?
22:47:55 <LordAro> Samu: don't fret, it gets decided when it gets merged
22:50:22 * andythenorth may have regrets
22:51:58 <Samu> hmm, my AI now builds statues before amassing airports
22:52:23 <Samu> I suppose that's still fine
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