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00:10:26  <LordAro> wait, now i can't reproduce it



00:10:28  <LordAro> what



00:21:32  <TrueBrain> If it is use after free, reproducing can be tricky :p



00:22:04  <LordAro> i reproduced it 3 times before adding some debug information



00:22:10  <LordAro> now it doesn't crash at all



00:22:20  <TrueBrain> Memory offsets? :)



00:22:28  <TrueBrain> Often with these kind of bugs



00:23:24  <LordAro> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/master/src/network/network_server.cpp#L2091 it *should* be fine



00:23:43  <TrueBrain> Opening these URLs on mobile makes the mobile hang



00:23:45  <TrueBrain> Funny



00:23:56  <LordAro> "L2091" that's why :p



00:24:29  <TrueBrain> I expected more of GitHub :p



00:27:30  <TrueBrain> So it can still kick the rcon user



00:27:37  <TrueBrain> Seen by the comment of the earlier url



00:27:44  <TrueBrain> That results in use after free



00:28:24  <TrueBrain> Seems NetworkClientSocket needs a protection flag instead of this hard coded filtering



00:28:52  <TrueBrain> CAN_NOT_BE_KICKED_OR_BANNED flag or something :p



00:29:16  <LordAro> i don't follow - NetworkServerOrBanIP follows on from the console command



00:29:26  <LordAro> as per above, the server's client id can't be kicked



00:29:31  <LordAro> what am i missing?



00:29:34  <TrueBrain> The rcon can



00:30:16  <TrueBrain> They are two different sockets, not?



00:30:58  <TrueBrain> _redirect_console_to_client



00:31:07  <TrueBrain> As by your snippet in the issue



00:31:40  <TrueBrain> There in very poor English it says bad things happen if you do



00:31:47  <TrueBrain> Kick the rcon client



00:33:29  <LordAro> oh i see



00:33:39  <LordAro> rcon is weirdly implemented :)



00:33:55  <TrueBrain> As is the console



00:33:57  <Samu> 4732, almost there, last company to 5000...



00:33:59  <TrueBrain> But yed



00:34:02  <TrueBrain> Yes



00:34:14  <Samu> cyas good night



00:34:26  <TrueBrain> So someone found this bug and fixed it in one place, yet not in the other



00:35:13  <TrueBrain> This is strictly seen CVE worthy btw .. with a score of 1 or something



00:35:13  <LordAro> mm



00:36:00  <LordAro> is "DoS can be caused by the admin of said server" really CVE worthy?



00:36:35  <LordAro> ultimately seems very similar to "server admin can turn off server"



00:38:21  <TrueBrain> Rcon != server admin



00:38:33  <TrueBrain> There is why it is CVE worthy



00:39:00  <TrueBrain> As you can escape the process and read memory of the host



00:39:23  <TrueBrain> It is like a really low score, as you need to have/guess the password :p



00:39:34  <LordAro> "read the memory of the host" ?



00:39:37  <TrueBrain> But I am just mentioning it :)



00:39:38  <LordAro> that's a bit of a leap, surely



00:39:49  <TrueBrain> Use after free allows a lot of cool things



00:40:27  <TrueBrain> Many exploits are based on these things :)



00:40:37  <LordAro> i'm not convinced this is even remotely exploitable



00:40:58  <LordAro> (other than standard DoS)



00:40:58  <TrueBrain> Please do read up on these kind of exploits .. your head will explode :D



00:41:05  <LordAro> i am quite aware of them



00:41:14  <TrueBrain> They are so much fun :D



00:42:03  <_dp_> yeah, memory violation usually stuff doesn't look exploitable



00:42:11  <LordAro> but you'd have to somehow manipulate 20 different objects in memory in increasingly impossible ways to even get anything to do anything



00:42:12  <_dp_> but some crafty bastard always finds a way xD



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00:42:40  <TrueBrain> You can mostly prep the data that will be written



00:43:06  <TrueBrain> So the main question is, is this socket static? Or on the stack?



00:43:34  <TrueBrain> I think you overestimate the amount of manipulation you need



00:44:21  <TrueBrain> But okay, it is not like anyone will be putting effort on this, so who cares really



00:44:38  <TrueBrain> It is just sad this already got fixed once :p



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00:47:39  <LordAro> i remain unconvinced



00:47:47  <LordAro> but i do think it's CVE worthy



00:47:53  <LordAro> just not as "exploitable"



00:48:22  <TrueBrain> It is also not a DoS .. so as what you want to put it under?



00:48:43  <LordAro> how is it not a DoS?



00:49:08  <TrueBrain> 'quit' is an easier DoS?



00:49:28  <LordAro> well yes



00:49:38  <LordAro> which brings this conversation full circle



00:50:00  <TrueBrain> Only because you fail to see the fun things you can do here ;)



00:50:39  <TrueBrain> I only mentioned it is CVE worthy because it is a freaking use after free WHILE you have control over the flow for a bit of time :)



00:50:56  <TrueBrain> Especially as you can queue commands



00:51:10  <TrueBrain> Would be fun to PoC this



00:51:36  <LordAro> if you can show even the slightest bit of memory manipulation as a result of this, i'll believe you



00:51:48  <LordAro> until then... i shall sleep



00:51:58  <TrueBrain> You control the exact text that will be written in the freed buffer



00:52:10  <TrueBrain> How much more perfect do you want it?



00:52:35  <TrueBrain> Anyway, I don't really care if you can see the potential here or not .. the impact remains very low



00:52:55  <TrueBrain> So it is just a nice exercise if bored .. has no real impact



00:52:58  <LordAro> no you don't? you don't control anything



00:53:17  <TrueBrain> Rcon can batch commands



00:53:42  <TrueBrain> The console code is really horrible btw :p did we ever mention that?



00:54:22  <TrueBrain> Anyway, we are arguing in something neither of us will ever put effort in, so let's agree to disagree and move on :)



00:56:32  <LordAro> you brought it up!



00:57:04  <LordAro> i fail to see any possibility of doing anything with this information



00:57:27  <milek7> i remember reading about single-byte heap overflow with fixed value enabling RCE on ChromeOS



00:58:26  <LordAro> there are prior limits to packet length, command length, character input, the fact that the object that's being used after free is completely separate to the command itself...



00:58:29  <LordAro> i could probably go on



00:59:06  <LordAro> of course it's low impact - a) it's OpenTTD b) the exploiter would already have rcon



01:00:58  <TrueBrain> I brought it up as I believe you can abuse it. You believe you can't. Neither of us is going to put real effort in disproving the other. So what is the point of this discussion at this hour of the day? :) If you like we can look at this another time, if we can do it because we are both curious to what is possible :) just because science or whatever



01:00:58  <TrueBrain>  :D



01:03:09  <TrueBrain> I like these puzzles, as there can be 100 reasons it shouldn't work ... but you need just 1 to make it work :) it is funny like that :D



01:03:42  <TrueBrain> But honestly, I didn't mention it to start an argument.. was more looking for a discussion. So sorry about that, this was not my intend :)



01:04:13  <glx> anyway it must be fixed :)



01:04:35  <TrueBrain> That is the least interesting part glx :p



01:04:56  <glx> well you can play once it's fixed



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01:07:21  <TrueBrain> The game I am going to play is how much sleep can one night bring! :D



01:07:36  <TrueBrain> I will report the results when I have them!



01:07:45  <glx> so we have at least 2 ways to kill beta2 and before servers



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06:30:59  <rptr> why don't my raw resource industries ever increase their production?



06:31:17  <rptr> i had 3-4 trains loading constantly (total maybe 10 trains) for hours. and some of the iron mines decreased



06:31:20  <rptr> some increased a bit



06:31:26  <rptr> but it seems basically 50/50% as opposed to 66/33



06:31:35  <rptr> i see other people with like 400 production



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08:37:20  <andythenorth> Pikka bob



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09:24:14  <andythenorth> tumty tumty tum



09:24:34  <andythenorth> how to do black freight steam trains, but with 2CC



09:24:49  <andythenorth> like https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=209787&sid=21e40372137ba6db083556b53da5f988 but moar



09:24:55  <Eddi|zuHause> black and more black?



09:24:55  <andythenorth> answers on postcard pls



09:25:24  <andythenorth> delete all steam trains?



09:25:26  <andythenorth> problem solved



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09:27:12  <Eddi|zuHause> ... that's such an "andy" solution



09:27:41  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe andy is actually skynet? "all humanity's problems will be solved when humanity is annihilated"



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09:28:02  <SpComb> a good product manager knows how to cut stuff out



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10:47:22  <andythenorth> cull the weakest parts



10:47:28  <andythenorth> unless they're the fun bits



10:47:51  <andythenorth> the problem of ruthless editing is that it can produce 100% bland



10:49:37  <Eddi|zuHause> which is how you get games like Sims 4 or Fallout 76



10:50:02  <andythenorth> no texture



10:50:45  <andythenorth> the 'problem' is reports that all the red steam trains look identical https://firs-test-1.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/iron-horse/docs/html/tech_tree_table_red.html



10:50:59  <andythenorth> ^ the version above is 50% repainted



10:51:27  <andythenorth> same for black steam engines further down the page



10:51:39  <Eddi|zuHause> why is that even a problem? the original game used like 4 sprites for 10 engines



10:52:17  <andythenorth> it's feedback, I'm choosing to treat it as a problem



10:52:24  <andythenorth> on the basis it might be interesting to solve



10:53:00  <andythenorth> can you see any difference between Thunderer and Strongbow?



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11:18:48  <Eddi|zuHause> there was an astroneer patch, but no patchnotes?



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11:45:30  <Pikka> yoyo



11:45:48  <andythenorth> yo Pikka



11:45:53  <andythenorth> haps steam train colours?



11:45:55  <Pikka> yeah, I'm not sure about liveries yet



11:46:12  <andythenorth> I am hexperimenting https://firs-test-1.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/iron-horse/docs/html/tech_tree_table_red.html



11:46:19  <andythenorth> diesels are so easy :P



11:47:36  <Pikka> having fewer locos helps ;)



11:48:54  <Pikka> I've got the 2cc on the greyhound. Might do some 2cc on the pannier tank and keep it CC on freight, or something



12:55:40  <andythenorth> I set a rule that all engines have 2CC :P



12:55:55  <andythenorth> which is a right PITA when I want to do some black non-descript freight engines



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13:11:38  <Eddi|zuHause> my first idea would be: boiler black, stripe 1CC, roof/walls 2CC



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13:15:30  <FLHerne> andythenorth: Just have, like, three CC pixels on the tender to represent the company crest/lettering :P



13:31:59  <andythenorth> I'll try something later



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13:51:13  <Eddi|zuHause> seems cities:skylines is just broken...



13:53:51  <Eddi|zuHause> also, what good is this launcher if i can't even switch on or off DLCs?



14:01:59  <Pikka> andythenorth, black counts as a CC? ;)



14:02:41  <andythenorth> oof :)



14:02:47  <andythenorth> only with that magical grf



14:02:51  <andythenorth> we need 3CC :P



14:09:27  <Eddi|zuHause> i clicked on "texture quality: medium" 5 minutes ago and it hangs ever since



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14:11:58  <Eddi|zuHause> oh, it now jumpted to "middle" being actually selected :)



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15:21:00  <andythenorth> Pikka: I could draw some outside framed steam engines, but might look ugly



15:21:15  <andythenorth> https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/121/locomotive-no-36-12579071.jpg.webp



15:21:26  <Pikka> worth a try?



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16:26:57  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i need a piece of track that can be used by both freight trains and metro trains...



16:31:23  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7977: Fix d84b67e5: Station rating effects affecting too large area https://git.io/JvZw7



16:33:28  <andythenorth> freight metro



16:33:41  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company



16:38:05  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #7977: Fix d84b67e5: Station rating effects affecting too large area https://git.io/JvZrU



16:39:30  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7977: Fix d84b67e5: Station rating effects affecting too large area https://git.io/JvZw7



16:45:24  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7978: Fix 5880f147: Integer width warnings https://git.io/JvZrG



16:47:42  <nielsm> not long until ticket #8000



16:48:22  <spnda> I wanted to wait for ticket #8000 for my NRS pr



16:55:09  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda commented on pull request #7955: WIP Feature: NewGRF Road Stops (Feature 14) https://git.io/JvZrQ



17:00:05  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7955: WIP Feature: NewGRF Road Stops (Feature 14) https://git.io/JvZoe



17:09:35  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7978: Fix 5880f147: Integer width warnings https://git.io/JvZoB



17:09:41  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7978: Fix 5880f147: Integer width warnings https://git.io/JvZrG



17:10:44  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7975: Fix #7974: Crash when CTRL+click to show a vehicle group that is coll… https://git.io/JvZou



17:10:50  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7975: Fix #7974: Crash when CTRL+click to show a vehicle group that is coll… https://git.io/JvGMs



17:10:52  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #7974: Crash when CTRL+click to show a vehicle group that is collapsed https://git.io/JvGPA



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17:24:57  <Eddi|zuHause> someone should finish #7000



17:27:38  <nielsm> can't open #8000 before #7000 is closed



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17:36:28  <Eddi|zuHause> ... i shouldn't have quit the game



17:45:27  <LordAro> tempted to just close #7000 out of spite



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18:03:13  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda commented on pull request #7955: WIP Feature: NewGRF Road Stops (Feature 14) https://git.io/JvZ6P



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18:15:14  <andythenorth> 7000 is my favourite issue



18:15:59  <andythenorth> https://github.com/andythenorth/iron-horse/blob/master/src/templates/properties.pynml#L12



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18:57:10  <frosch123> TrueBrain: looks like the deadline for the vps is a little earlier. the current service expires 2020-04-06, so 4 weeks before the entire product is retired



18:59:13  <spnda> Is the Rich Presence compatibility i suggested ever going to be a thing? I mean, it's functioninig on my end, dunno about licensing though.



18:59:48  <nielsm> someone will probably need to hold ownership of an application registration one or more places



19:00:03  <nielsm> I've tried asking about that and don't remember getting any responses



19:00:35  <spnda> It's bound to my account right now



19:00:40  <nielsm> (even if the registration doesn't cost any money there's still some potential legal ownership stuff)



19:01:09  <spnda> oh is there? Don't know. I just have a Rich Presence Application bound to my account...



19:02:51  <TrueBrain> frosch123: tnx. Guess that will be my priority for the next few weeks :p



19:03:16  <TrueBrain> No clue how to do it yet, so figuring that out is priority 1 :D



19:05:58  <Pikka> pow



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19:07:52  <andythenorth> pow



19:08:16  <Wolf01> Y no FFF?



19:08:26  <Wolf01> Wait...



19:08:31  <frosch123> lol



19:08:41  <Wolf01> My whole friday was a lie :(



19:08:42  <frosch123> Wolf01: get back to work!



19:15:20  <Wolf01> Is it at least dinner time?



19:21:23  <Samu> 1 vehicle for the fabled 5000 road vehicles all companies



19:23:29  <Samu> [img]https://i.imgur.com/vH8sU5S.png[/img]



19:23:31  <Samu> yes, it is done!



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19:33:30  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JeeIF



19:57:30  <Samu> now im tempted to enable aircraft



19:57:46  <Samu> and wait for additional 5000 aircraft all companies



20:00:38  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] spnda commented on pull request #7955: WIP Feature: NewGRF Road Stops (Feature 14) https://git.io/JvZMV



20:06:11  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh dismissed a review for pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/JebAw



20:11:11  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh requested changes for pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/JvZMj



20:18:12  <Eddi|zuHause> flood walls in cities skylines are one big joke



20:18:36  <Eddi|zuHause> even the tiniest floods are way higher than the walls



20:32:10  <nielsm> Eddi|zuHause would you be okay with me updating and force-pushing this PR? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7396



20:32:28  <Eddi|zuHause> nielsm: sure (looks what it is)



20:33:07  <Eddi|zuHause> oh, i totally forgot i even wrote that :)



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20:44:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/JvZyB



20:54:50  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/fjfhC



20:57:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/fhrqY



20:57:22  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/JvZy9



21:04:18  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/fjfhC



21:06:56  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/JvZSL



21:08:13  <nielsm> LordAro: can you take a look at that SDT_INTLIST thing again? I think it's good now



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21:26:13  <spnda> Took me 2 hours to find I returned false instead of true....



21:27:12  <Samu> new goal: 5000 aircraft :p



21:29:26  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh opened pull request #7979: Fix #7592: Limit road vehicle caching near destination https://git.io/JvZSH



21:29:42  <nielsm> haxxing with git commit --author= there



21:30:11  <nielsm> oooh, #7979



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21:32:20  <Samu> #7822 related? or not



21:33:00  <nielsm> no



21:44:56  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #7979: Fix #7592: Limit road vehicle caching near destination https://git.io/JvZ9E



21:56:11  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #7885: Use of deprecated fluid_synth_set_sample_rate https://git.io/JeADP



21:56:56  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/JvZ9N



21:57:20  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #7979: Fix #7592: Limit road vehicle caching near destination https://git.io/JvZ9p



21:58:02  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/JvZHe



21:58:14  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7094:   Fix #7088: close AI/GS textfile window when their data are invalid  https://git.io/fhrqY



21:58:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #7088: Crash when viewing AI textfile and switching to Random AI https://git.io/fhVoc



21:58:41  <LordAro> that took an embarassingly long time to deal with



22:00:14  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #7729: Add #7525: Allow autoreplace with same model vehicle https://git.io/JvZHT



22:00:34  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7396: Fix: Saving SDT_INTLIST handle unsigned values properly https://git.io/fjfhC



22:02:33  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh updated pull request #7979: Fix #7592: Limit road vehicle caching near destination https://git.io/JvZSH



22:02:44  <LordAro> nielsm: i wonder whether JGR's "heavyweight" solution would help fix #7670 as well as #7592



22:02:53  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened issue #7980: Station coverage area stays visible sometimes even when turned off https://git.io/JvZHn



22:03:07  <LordAro> STOP BREAKING THINGS



22:03:13  <LordAro> honestly, users



22:03:19  <LordAro> who'd want them?



22:04:26  <_dp_> :p



22:05:10  <LordAro> that is an amusing one though



22:05:15  <LordAro> i can confirm it



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22:05:44  <_dp_> also road building is still disabled without vehicles, should I file that as a bug too?



22:05:58  <LordAro> i thought there already was a bug...



22:06:04  <nielsm> yeah standard roads should always be available in any year



22:06:41  <_dp_> I mentioned it in some pr and someone posted on forum but haven't seen an actual issue



22:06:56  <Wolf01> Why do you want to build roads if you don't have any vehicle?



22:07:07  <nielsm> (can a newgrf disable the standard ROAD type or set a year limit on it? if a different road type is available earlier than ROAD should the first one to become available be the default one?)



22:07:15  <nielsm> because towns depend on roads



22:07:38  <Wolf01> Towns should be able to build roads on their own, yes



22:07:59  <_dp_> it was possible to build roads in 1.9 btw



22:08:46  <nielsm> before NRT there was definitely code that ensures roads are always buildable even when no RVs are available



22:09:22  <Wolf01> Yes



22:11:55  <_dp_> it's an interesting question what to do with newgrfs



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22:12:31  <_dp_> requiring them to always have at least one type would be a good solution imo



22:12:41  <nielsm> how about, road types with no minimum year are always buildable



22:13:09  <nielsm> if all road types have a minumum year, select all road types that have the earliest introduction year and change those to have no introduction year



22:13:54  <nielsm> ...and hope that isn't something silly like fake waterways



22:14:24  <_dp_> is it possible to make road type that towns can't grow on?



22:14:27  <nielsm> or fake pipes



22:14:58  <Wolf01> _dp_, yes



22:15:11  <nielsm> ROTFB_NO_HOUSES         = 1 << ROTF_NO_HOUSES,         ///< Value for for setting this roadtype as not house friendly.



22:15:24  <Wolf01> nielsm, there already are waterways



22:15:32  <_dp_> interesting...



22:15:52  <_dp_> that should be also taken into account then I guess



22:15:54  <nielsm> Wolf01 I mean, if the _only_ road type available is a not-really-a-road thing like waterways



22:16:35  <nielsm> ...I suppose someone might want to make a venice world



22:17:20  <_dp_> hm, there's definitely a lot of silliness possible, like newgrfs just disabling defaull road and doesn't defining any other xD



22:17:30  <Wolf01> I do, that's why I asked for waterways, and forums made my wish become reality :P



22:17:54  <milek7> console alias allow executing multiple commands



22:17:58  <_dp_> nielsm, well, since we're thinking about towns here it's not that much of an issue if it's a pipe as long as towns can grow along it xD



22:18:00  <milek7> so it could execute any command after socket handler object have been already freed



22:18:12  <Wolf01> 64x64 map of Venice :P



22:18:12  <milek7> and later that freed memory is used as vtable pointer. maybe it is exploitable, requiring some console command that sprays client controlled data into that area



22:18:42  <LordAro> incidentally, #7980 appears to affect all station types, not just rail



22:19:28  <nielsm> milek7 for that to be an exploit you either need a malicious user to get rcon on a server, or to trick a user into entering some commands/loading a console script



22:19:36  <nielsm> I think?



22:19:44  <milek7> yes



22:19:55  <nielsm> can you even make remote aliases with rcon?



22:20:23  <milek7> but there was theoretical discussion if this is exploitable at all with rcon access



22:20:45  <milek7> rcon just executes console commands normally, everything works



22:23:39  <_dp_> Actually OpenTTD can just enable default type, and if some silly newgrf doesn't provide any type that's its own issue



22:24:36  <nielsm> gnight



22:24:37  <frosch123> you can't disable default rail/road types via newgrf



22:25:45  <frosch123> you can only make them useless, like speedlimit=1



22:26:33  <frosch123> hmm... actually... that hide-road/railtype flag may have changed everything



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22:38:43  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern opened pull request #7981: Close #7735: Implement protocol handling https://git.io/JvZQ0



22:39:44  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #7981: Close #7735: Implement protocol handling https://git.io/JvZQE



22:42:07  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern updated pull request #7981: Close #7735: Implement protocol handling https://git.io/JvZQ0



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22:59:58  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JMcKiern commented on pull request #7981: Close #7735: Implement protocol handling https://git.io/JvZ7G



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23:05:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl opened issue #7982: Station coverage isn't shown when mousing over a part of station adjacent to other station https://git.io/JvZ70



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