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09:02:06  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7827: Codechange: [AzurePipeline] add developer files section in manifest https://git.io/JerfR

09:03:17  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7807: Doc: revised README to be more helpful to casual GitHub visitors https://git.io/Jerfz

09:11:41  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7809: Fix #7631:  16 out cargo support for industry directory https://git.io/JeuaI

09:11:42  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #7631: Assert when opening industry directory  https://git.io/fjodB

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09:57:50  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Montandalar opened issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc

10:12:14  <LordAro> interesting

10:18:51  <peter1138> Is it lunch time yet?

10:28:11  <Arveen> not yet

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14:04:01  <peter1138> What about now?

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14:04:40  <andythenorth> I am very confused about lunch

14:04:45  <andythenorth> pls send enlightenment

14:06:03  <Arveen> go for it

14:06:09  <Arveen> i approve

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14:53:26  <peter1138> Well, I had lunch.

14:56:14  <Arveen> congratulations

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15:07:24  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc

15:16:50  <peter1138> Thanks. It is my major achievement today.

15:18:09  <LordAro> peter1138: congrats!

15:18:36  <peter1138> Nearly reached 850 kcal!

15:25:08  <andythenorth> I had lunch

15:25:41  <andythenorth> pls send motivation

15:25:49  <andythenorth> I haven't done much OpenTTD-ish

15:28:07  <peter1138> What was confusing about lunch, then?

15:28:34  <peter1138> Here's some enlightenment, though... https://www.enlightenment.org/

15:29:29  <andythenorth> thanks

15:29:51  <andythenorth> my current motivation is mostly to drive this tank https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Blitz:T95

15:29:58  <andythenorth> and do ISO 27001 compliance

15:30:59  <peter1138> Yes yes.

15:31:07  <peter1138> I'm going to 'drive' my bike later.

15:31:20  <peter1138> Lights are on charge :p

15:31:29  <peter1138> Forceast is wet...

15:32:13  <peter1138> Forecast, too...

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15:41:53  <andythenorth> oof

15:42:01  <andythenorth> Apple have released a non-fucked Macbook

15:42:05  <andythenorth> hell froze over

15:42:13  <andythenorth> they've probably bizarrely broken it somehow

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15:53:41  <andythenorth> hey, this is approved :D \o/ https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7807

15:53:45  <andythenorth> just needs merged

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16:49:27  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc

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18:40:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc

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18:45:07  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on issue #7831: Crash on placing vehicle in group that used to contain 1 vehicle https://git.io/JerJc

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18:53:41  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #7827: Codechange: [AzurePipeline] add developer files section in manifest https://git.io/Jea88

18:57:43  <frosch123> andythenorth: does the website build stuff allow executing arbitrary tools?

18:58:12  <frosch123> it would be cool if it could osie on the screenshots and automatically add infos about the used newgrfs

18:58:17  <andythenorth> depends on how the question is framed

18:58:28  <andythenorth> jekyll is extensible with plugins

18:58:35  <andythenorth> there's no generic makefile or similar

18:59:12  <andythenorth> how would it detect the newgrfs? o_O

18:59:51  <frosch123> screenshots made using ottd's ctrl+s (so no external screengrab) include a magic png text chunk with the used newgrfs

19:00:04  <andythenorth> ooh

19:00:06  <frosch123> i have no idea how many screenshots are made using ctrl+s though :p

19:00:37  <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/osie <- i have not used it in years

19:00:43  <frosch123> so it may also be totally broken :p

19:05:10  <glx> something like https://jekyllrb.com/docs/plugins/generators/ could work ?

19:07:41  <frosch123> hmm, quite a lot of screenshots have no menubar

19:08:04  <frosch123> so likely no info available for most of them

19:12:02  <andythenorth> maybe we should get the savegame, not the screenshot :P

19:12:07  <andythenorth> massive overkill :)

19:12:09  <andythenorth> biab

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19:45:49  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JerWM

19:45:49  <DorpsGek_III>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)

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19:54:33  <andythenorth> automatic screenshot upload from in-game, I curate and approve the best? :P

19:54:44  <andythenorth> or...

19:54:58  <andythenorth> €1 donation = 3 screenshots published?

19:55:03  <andythenorth> patreon levels?

19:55:15  <andythenorth> gotta pay for the new infra somehow eh TrueBrain? :D

19:55:30  <frosch123> that still adds work

19:56:05  <frosch123> how about: you must provide a mobile number with your screenshot, so people can phone you to ask about the used newgrfs

19:58:14  <TrueBrain> ding ding ding, we have a winner!

20:00:16  <frosch123> andythenorth: build 10 pieces of rail, wait 1 minute or pay 0.05€ to continue immediately?

20:02:55  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the highest cost in there is the manual labour. you want a system where nobody actually has to do anything, and externalize all work to the users

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20:03:50  <andythenorth> some patreons give access to an exclusive discord

20:03:54  <andythenorth> I could be on that

20:04:08  <andythenorth> or we could let Zuck in, and use whatsapp

20:04:19  <andythenorth> I think it's important that whatever we do, Zuck gets revenue from it

20:04:24  <andythenorth> Bezos is already included

20:04:44  <andythenorth> I like this business model where you just lift a few dollars from everyone on the planet

20:04:45  <frosch123> do you want to turn this channel into a podcast?

20:05:07  <andythenorth> I already do a work podcast, not sure which is more interesting

20:05:14  <Eddi|zuHause> we don't even manage a consistent monthly blog

20:05:16  <andythenorth> we could get my mac to read out the channel?

20:05:20  <andythenorth> and record it

20:05:40  <andythenorth> there is a YT channel my kids watch, which just reads out the minecraft changelog

20:05:58  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: the disincentive to blogging is high :P

20:06:04  <andythenorth> I won't do another, fairly certain

20:06:37  <Eddi|zuHause> there's a famous video about the sims (3?) changelog

20:15:24  <andythenorth> oh wow PR count is down

20:15:25  <andythenorth> 48

20:15:29  <andythenorth> could be 47 trivially :P

20:15:46  <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+review%3Aapproved

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20:38:26  <andythenorth> has anyone done the November blog post also?

20:39:59  <frosch123> wasn't there a release post? or was that october?

20:40:22  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #7807: Doc: revised README to be more helpful to casual GitHub visitors https://git.io/JeEde

20:40:50  <frosch123> oh, blog and release was 3 days apart

20:40:55  <frosch123> what a waste :p

20:41:48  <andythenorth> no comment

20:42:07  <andythenorth> michi_cc: thanks :D

20:42:18  <andythenorth> rewriting README was a surprising lot of work

20:42:28  <andythenorth> I had to read all of dev pages in wiki as well and fix them

20:42:44  <frosch123> docs are lot of work, that's why noone ever does them

20:43:42  <frosch123> but i don't think you can hire more wiki editors via a blog

20:45:15  <andythenorth> pleasingly, it was mostly deleting stuff

20:45:26  <andythenorth> signal to noise ratio wasn't great for dev pages

20:49:15  <frosch123> https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/dvsged/what_is_openttd_where_can_i_get_it/ <- extend the faq? :p

20:50:00  <andythenorth> just read that

20:50:19  <andythenorth> special page on OpenTTD website

20:51:20  <andythenorth> the subreddit doesn't actually explain anything about the game

20:52:06  <frosch123> that post is kind of the uncanny valley of trolls

20:52:49  <frosch123> you can't imagine how anyone would get to that place to ask such a question, but you also can't imagine someone fake-posting such a question

20:53:38  <frosch123> maybe someone lost their memory and checked their browser bookmarks

20:55:34  <andythenorth> maybe it's a bot

20:55:46  <andythenorth> I'm starting to wonder how much of the world is bots

20:56:31  <frosch123> 90% according to german politicians

20:56:51  <andythenorth> when I worked in adtech, I concluded that most ad 'clicks' were bots :P

20:57:24  <frosch123> most of my ad clicks are accidential clicks

20:57:27  <glx> hmm nightly failed (well manifest failed)

21:00:58  <TrueBrain> glx :(

21:01:19  <TrueBrain> poorly tested! :P :P

21:01:27  <glx> it works here :)

21:02:07  <TrueBrain> at least there is a clear error, that is a nice :)

21:03:16  <TrueBrain> euh, yes, += doesn't exist :)

21:03:22  <TrueBrain> please use a decent shell to test with :D

21:03:35  <glx> I use mingw shell

21:03:44  <glx> it's bash

21:03:47  <TrueBrain> I repeat: use a decent shell please :D

21:04:35  <TrueBrain> DEV_FILES+=" ${filename}" <- should be DEV_FILES="${DEV_FILES} ${filename}"

21:04:36  <TrueBrain> :)

21:07:25  <LordAro> hmm

21:07:36  <LordAro> is += really a bash only thing?

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21:07:57  <supermop_work_> yo

21:24:23  <TrueBrain> LordAro: yes, that is really really only a bash thing :)

21:24:59  <LordAro> interesting

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21:29:27  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 opened pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8E

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21:43:50  <TrueBrain> LordAro: not really; there isn't really a list I know of that tell you about these things

21:43:53  <TrueBrain> so it is just annoying as fuck

21:44:01  <TrueBrain> bash is evil, from that perspective :)

21:44:32  <glx> and whenever you search for shell script stuff you only find bash doc :)

21:45:32  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain approved pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8b

21:45:32  <Eddi|zuHause> man 1p sh

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21:48:48  <glx> of course the check doesn't want to start

21:50:15  <andythenorth> so all core docs done?

21:50:19  <andythenorth> just NRT to sort out?

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22:10:34  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer48

22:11:03  <TrueBrain> now you have 2 approvals glx, how about that

22:11:33  <glx> I'll just force merge :)

22:11:48  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #7832: Fix e3511ecac: don't use bash specific syntax https://git.io/Jer8E

22:13:04  <glx> haha and this time the CI starts

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23:30:41  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #7833: Fix: Out of bounds tile access in ErrmsgWindow::OnInitialPosition https://git.io/JerBH

23:34:20  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7833: Fix: Out of bounds tile access in ErrmsgWindow::OnInitialPosition https://git.io/JerB5

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