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08:57:58 <andythenorth> o/
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12:48:40 <peter1138> Is it lunch time yet?
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12:53:33 <andythenorth> is it cat?
12:53:51 <peter1138> I reckon in an hour.
12:55:43 <andythenorth> but I'm hungry
13:00:32 <LordAro> nah, definitely lunchtime
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13:11:13 <peter1138> If I eat now, I'll want something else at 3-4pm :p
13:11:55 <andythenorth> I found cheese
13:15:50 <peter1138> No cheese today, but I had some last night. Val de Weiss fromage a la Fleur de Biere.
13:16:07 <andythenorth> fancy
13:16:15 <peter1138> Sounds it but came from a supermarket, heh.
13:19:15 <peter1138> Today is just, er, a salad. With a slice of roast ham for proteins.
13:27:56 <andythenorth> yum
13:28:03 <andythenorth> I will be having a salad
13:28:08 <andythenorth> and more cheese
13:28:13 <andythenorth> and marmite
13:30:15 <peter1138> Marmite cheese.
13:30:28 <peter1138> Is a thing, but it's sadly not very good :-(
13:31:10 <peter1138> Actually the big ones might be good. I've only had the cheddar bites.
13:31:25 <peter1138> Macaroni cheese with marmite cheese, yes please.
13:36:57 <andythenorth> maybe I should make a toastie
14:18:35 <andythenorth> I made a toastie
14:18:40 <andythenorth> big news of the day
14:28:11 <peter1138> My salad was declared a "big main meal" by one of the workmen we have on site at the moment. Hmm.!
15:08:06 <Eddi|zuHause> and making a toastie takes half an hour?
15:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause> this toastie thing must be a really elaborate meal
15:10:38 <Sacro> it's just bread and cheese
15:10:42 <Sacro> Nothing more, nothing less
15:10:46 <andythenorth> there was deciding
15:10:48 <andythenorth> and eating
15:11:03 <andythenorth> it was just bread and cheese
15:20:03 <supermop_work> how does a toastie differ from a grilled cheese
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15:22:20 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it's toasted rather than grilled?
15:22:47 <andythenorth> it's made in one of these
15:22:48 <andythenorth> https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/small-cooking-appliances/grills/george-foreman-18471-family-grill-black-10167011-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=xaqrrppml&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0130%20(PLA)%20SDA%20FOOD%20PREPERATION~0130%20(PLA)%20FOOD%20PREPERATION%20ad%20group~Exact&mctag=g
15:22:48 <andythenorth> gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700027233274293&tgtid=0130%20(PLA)%20SDA%20FOOD%20PREPERATION&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIst3s2eSR5QIVDUTTCh2E7w7NEAQYAiABEgL2c_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
15:22:52 <andythenorth> long url eh?
15:22:54 <andythenorth> wow
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15:23:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that is almost definitely not a toaster
15:24:16 <andythenorth> it's not
15:24:21 <andythenorth> but you make toasties in it
15:24:29 <andythenorth> it's not cheese on toast
15:25:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't looked at the link, but iirc a george forman grill is more akin to a waffle iron?
15:26:49 <andythenorth> akin to yes
15:27:03 <andythenorth> it's similar to a toastie maker
15:27:15 <andythenorth> but not a toastie oven
15:27:35 <andythenorth> it's like a breville
15:27:43 <andythenorth> also toasties can be made in a frying pan
15:27:45 <andythenorth> but not a toaster
15:27:52 * andythenorth back to GDPR
15:30:00 <supermop_work> grilled cheeses are pan-fried, not grilled
15:30:34 <supermop_work> as to waffle iron - see also: Jaffle maker
15:31:18 <andythenorth> oh that's just a Breville
15:31:41 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_iron
15:31:43 <supermop_work> jaffle iron seals the sides
15:32:00 <supermop_work> breville is a brand of cheap espresso machines
15:32:03 <Eddi|zuHause> so, toasties are baked and not toasted, grilled cheese are fried and not grilled. anything else i should know?
15:32:29 <supermop_work> know to regret trying to learn idiomatic english?
15:33:19 <andythenorth> idiomatic English, as used in Canada, USA, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa
15:33:26 <andythenorth> yes
15:33:43 <andythenorth> hurrah
15:33:47 <Eddi|zuHause> just because a lot of people use it doesn't mean it's good
15:33:54 <Eddi|zuHause> see windows, apple products, ...
15:34:37 <supermop_work> humanity in general
15:35:02 <andythenorth> respiration
15:35:14 <andythenorth> entropy
15:37:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i played around a bit with video settings, i'm not sure that 1080p streaming is viable
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17:45:14 <andythenorth> https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/ddwdfw/hey_i_was_wondering_if_there_is_a_way_for_me_to/
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17:51:28 <Eddi|zuHause> my internet seems to be acting up today
17:53:31 <andythenorth> mine keeps stopping :|
17:53:37 <andythenorth> bad for tanking
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17:53:47 <andythenorth> MMORG does not do well when connection dies :P
18:05:10 <andythenorth> " Systems people discover bugs by waking up and discovering that their first-born children are missing and “ETIMEDOUT ” has been written in blood on the wall.
18:05:13 <andythenorth> https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1311_05-08_mickens.pdf
18:08:11 <andythenorth> do not read whilst drinking
18:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause> so only after i'm done drinking?
18:10:21 <andythenorth> or before
18:14:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so... that setup i had done yesterday to get game sound in the stream... it produces heavy stuttering now when i start the game :/
18:16:27 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's only when the game is running, everything else works, and if i reroute it to internal sound instead of webstream, it works properly
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18:25:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i possibly have run into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/281475
18:26:05 <Eddi|zuHause> or a version thereof
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18:34:01 <Samu> I remember path of exile using OpenAL for audio
18:34:47 <Samu> they switched a year ago to something else
18:35:00 <Samu> sound improved drastically
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18:39:02 <Eddi|zuHause> so, let's try this again: https://www.twitch.tv/eddijk (might be more pixel-salad than yesterday)
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18:55:47 <andythenorth> what shall we do now?
18:55:49 <andythenorth> newgrf?
18:55:50 <andythenorth> tanks?
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19:02:23 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.twitch.tv/eddijk
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20:27:02 <supermop_work> oops
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20:49:30 <supermop_work> ok
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22:48:08 <Samu> may I suggest New Game world generation defaults?
22:50:21 <Samu> Snow line height: 7
22:50:39 <Samu> Terrain type: Hilly
22:51:49 <Samu> and Im unsure about Sea Level
22:52:33 <Samu> I think it's fine the way it is, but it wouldn't hurt if the default was different than the minimum value
22:53:32 <Samu> With Hilly, Sub-tropic generates more interesting land
22:54:07 <Samu> same with Sub-arctic, as long as snow line height is changed to 7
22:54:38 <Samu> Map Size: 512 x 512
22:54:44 <Samu> instead of 256 x 256
22:55:04 <Samu> or it may still fail to generate enough snow on sub-arctic
22:55:12 <Samu> for forests
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