IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-10-08
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00:05:43 <Eddi|zuHause> (should i have tested stuff? :p)
00:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause> any sane way to deal with the 1 million warnings of "libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile"?
00:09:38 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, CETS still builds for me.
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01:11:20 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7608: Codechange: Performance improvement in k-d tree FindNearest() https://git.io/JeWfF
01:11:40 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro dismissed a review for pull request #7608: Codechange: Performance improvement in k-d tree FindNearest() https://git.io/JeWfb
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01:20:18 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #7699: Fix: Possible double path separator in FiosMakeFilename https://git.io/JeWJk
01:21:06 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7652: Fix #7635: Game crash on exit scenario editor. https://git.io/JeWJq
01:21:21 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro merged pull request #7652: Fix #7635: Game crash on exit scenario editor. https://git.io/fjXJZ
01:21:21 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro closed issue #7635: Game crash on exit scenario editor when you build or demolish infrastructure https://git.io/fjK1y
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01:24:06 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7671: Fix #6407: Show snowy ground sprites for depots https://git.io/JeWJO
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08:53:23 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh merged pull request #7608: Codechange: Performance improvement in k-d tree FindNearest() https://git.io/fjBpv
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12:51:18 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] planetmaker merged pull request #7671: Fix #6407: Show snowy ground sprites for depots https://git.io/fjywY
13:04:24 <LordAro> new CF? that would require all the docker stuff that OTTD has, afaik
13:04:39 <LordAro> and maybe something more to link it all together, would need to ask TB
13:08:18 <planetmaker> well... honestly I don't care too much. But I think this guy should get some means to use catcodec :) And I fear a linux build I could offer him won't make him happy :D
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14:51:51 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] j-pet commented on pull request #7699: Fix: Possible double path separator in FiosMakeFilename https://git.io/JeWs1
14:53:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] j-pet dismissed a review for pull request #7699: Fix: Possible double path separator in FiosMakeFilename https://git.io/fjpgr
14:53:13 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] j-pet updated pull request #7699: Fix: Possible double path separator in FiosMakeFilename https://git.io/fjddy
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18:02:17 <supermop_work> nielsm: trees solved?
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18:39:54 <nielsm> trees were never a problem
18:42:46 * andythenorth has tank problems
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19:01:58 <supermop_work> hi andythenorth
19:06:30 <supermop_work> time to replace chinooks with cheddar valleys, hate to see them go as they still got some legs
19:07:30 <andythenorth> I wondered about Super Chinook :P
19:07:40 <andythenorth> in a funky livery
19:07:51 <andythenorth> but Horse gets quite big
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19:45:48 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
19:50:35 <TrueBrain> one could consider it "deprecated" :P
19:51:00 <TrueBrain> (just let it sink in for a bit ... 2010 ... 9 years of no binaries ... 1 request ... :P)
19:53:02 <andythenorth> ooh it's TrueBrain
19:55:12 <nielsm> if catcodec is deprecated then what's the new way of making sound sets?
19:56:52 <TrueBrain> the fact it is deprecated, sadly doesn't imply there is something better :)
19:57:26 <TrueBrain> well, I never said it was deprecated, I said one could consider it as such :)
19:58:30 <TrueBrain> I just have a very hard time to believe that in 7 years (latest version was from 2012), nothing needed touching in the catcodec codebase :) But that is just me ;)
20:02:25 <TrueBrain> oeh, there is a redis fork (KeyDB) that has active<->active replication .. that would work for my new master server I guess .. hmm .. *reads more*
20:07:18 <LordAro> TrueBrain: just for fun, i tried compiling it
20:07:27 <LordAro> 0 warnings, even after adding extra warning flags
20:08:07 <LordAro> it is only 4 cpp files, ~1kloc
20:09:16 <LordAro> also, i'm pretty sure no one's even tried to make a sound set since OSFX was released
20:09:49 <TrueBrain> the latter is more my point, yes ;)
20:10:19 <LordAro> source looks quite clean as well
20:10:22 <TrueBrain> as I guess that code never got the lovely C++-modern flavor applied, etc etc :)
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20:16:20 <LordAro> heh, template expansion
20:16:23 <LordAro> but yeah, not bad at all
20:19:06 <TrueBrain> awh, multi-master of KeyDB is not production ready .... why hasn't this stuff caught up with reality yet ... I need a simple multi-master database so I can finish the new master server .. grrr :@
20:19:20 <LordAro> "simple" "multi-master"
20:23:50 <nielsm> maybe the solution is just to use a traditional sql database
20:24:37 <TrueBrain> yeah, but that got shot down last time :(
20:25:05 <TrueBrain> just stupid it hasnt been solved yet :P
20:25:44 <TrueBrain> but yeah, PostgreSQL it is ... meh :P
20:26:03 <LordAro> how dare you say bad things about our lord and master postgresql
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21:00:37 <TrueBrain> do you have them in single too?
21:03:13 <andythenorth> are they the correct number?
21:06:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's one too much
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22:06:08 <supermop_work> andythenorth: less that i want modern class 20s, more than i'm sad to put them to bed 10 years into their life
22:17:35 <supermop_work> ya hate to see it
22:19:17 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, catcodec cannot be deprecated. It's an essential tool to create content for OpenTTD
22:20:48 <planetmaker> however, for what it's worth, it would probably go a long way, to link e.g. orudge's binary to the download which he posted in forums today
22:21:06 <planetmaker> yet... having catcodec connected to CF would be ofc preferential
22:25:00 <LordAro> perhaps "archived" would be a better term than "deprecated"
22:26:45 <TrueBrain> you are all naming different words for "deprecated" .. guess you guys read too much into it :)
22:27:32 <TrueBrain> and planetmaker, the "CF" is either Azure Pipelines or GitHub Actions. All PRs are very welcome to add that to catcodec :)
22:27:33 <LordAro> "deprecated" often means that it's been replaced by something else, is all
22:27:49 <LordAro> or "use not recommended"
22:27:50 <glx> and github actions is not that hard to use :)
22:28:01 <TrueBrain> LordAro: the latter, yes :D
22:28:12 <glx> it just miss useful stuff like templates
22:28:18 <TrueBrain> if it cannot be deprecated, someone should maintain it :D (which includes binaries ;))
22:30:53 <planetmaker> it's not like it needs changes. I compiled it today and it compiled without any complaint. Both for my linux and via mingw... so... why change for change's sake?
22:31:18 <planetmaker> just sad that we don't offer a tool which we could - and should! - offer for a decade already
22:32:03 <TrueBrain> didn't want to pick a fight or anything; was just stating what I saw
22:32:28 <TrueBrain> I think we can all agree we lack people that contribute, so yeah .. sad or not, it is what it is :)
22:32:29 <glx> I think using cmake for catcodec will simplify
22:32:56 <planetmaker> glx, catcodec needs no configure... just make. So.. can it get simpler?
22:32:57 <glx> because mingw in a CF is not an easy way
22:33:13 <planetmaker> CXX=path/to/mingw make
22:33:21 <planetmaker> granted I didn't test the binary ;)
22:33:25 <LordAro> worked just fine for me
22:33:32 <LordAro> didn't even need the CXX stuff
22:33:43 <LordAro> there's even a Makefile.msvc
22:33:47 <planetmaker> LordAro, I needed that for cross-compiling. Not for native
22:33:59 <glx> then a github workflow should work
22:35:26 <TrueBrain> glx: it is a good idea, convert to CMake, and GitHub Actions should be trivial from there on
22:36:00 <LordAro> cmake is overkill at the best of times
22:36:07 <TrueBrain> euh ..... it is less lines than Make :P
22:36:29 <LordAro> especially not if you include the generated makefile :p
22:36:56 <TrueBrain> it is just that CMake is easier to automate
22:37:01 <TrueBrain> more generic, more tools that understand it
22:37:06 <TrueBrain> so GitHub Actions becomes easier for more targets
22:37:09 <TrueBrain> but take it how ever you like it :)
22:37:26 <glx> no need for cmake here, I just checked make.bat :)
22:37:50 <glx> very easy to use with the windows runners
22:40:39 <TrueBrain> just remember that things like warning inline in the PR doesn't work with shit like custom make :)
22:40:39 <glx> hmm but make.bat doesn't update the version
22:40:53 <TrueBrain> but, these are just advise; feel free to pick your own route towards GitHub Actions :)
22:41:34 <Samu> i thought cmake was a make for c language
22:42:42 <LordAro> that's more or less what it is
22:42:48 <LordAro> it just does a lot more stuff as well
22:43:44 <milek7> github actions? azure pipelines are now deprecated?
22:44:06 <LordAro> such is the fast moving world of CI development
22:44:21 <glx> github actions uses same hardware as azure pipelines
22:45:43 <Samu> github taking control of everyone's code, is a scary thought
22:50:16 <LordAro> be a bit difficult for them to "take control"
22:50:29 <LordAro> given it's a git repo, it's decentralised by nature
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22:51:29 <Samu> i've heard that from bitcoin
22:53:15 <Samu> cyas, bed time already :/
22:53:47 <TrueBrain> it reminds me, GitHub support never got back to me on my question ... and I cannot find anywhere a ticket tracker :(
22:56:14 <TrueBrain> glx: nice work on that GitHub Action on OpenTTD :D
22:56:48 <TrueBrain> I am happy they fixed some annoying things from the Azure Pipeline
22:56:51 <glx> yeah but updating vcpkg and installing deps each time is not very optimal
22:56:56 <TrueBrain> "lessons learnt", I guess
22:57:16 <TrueBrain> did they already add cache ..
22:57:46 <glx> the only available cache for now is inside a workflow
22:58:59 <TrueBrain> hopefully they add it soon .. but yeah, GitHub Actions tend to be a bit silly, in recreating dockers too
22:59:26 <TrueBrain> too bad I haven't found a way yet to annotate with the latest release of theirs
23:00:11 <glx> but with github actions it should still be possible to build our CF with a scheduled workflow, and then use that in other repos
23:01:01 <TrueBrain> lol .. haven't seen that yet :D
23:01:03 <TrueBrain> would be interesting ;)
23:01:27 <glx> but I still prefer the commit checker not in a docker, it's faster :)
23:02:13 <TrueBrain> also if you publish the docker image?
23:03:17 <TrueBrain> now I come to think of it, it is silly to do it via a docker with this new setup they have :)
23:03:23 <TrueBrain> you can just clone the script and run it, indeed
23:03:28 <TrueBrain> that is a nice change tbh :)
23:03:52 <TrueBrain> you could in fact just put the whole workflow in the commit checker repo, and only include it from OpenTTD
23:03:59 <TrueBrain> means we can more easily hook it into other repos too
23:04:52 <glx> like an action in the commit checker repo ?
23:05:03 <andythenorth> github actions for newgrf builds?
23:05:25 <TrueBrain> glx: as you can include "workflows" from other repos, that should be easy, I guess :)
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23:06:47 <TrueBrain> its funny how GitHub Actions started off with "everything in Docker", but now they seem to go more towards Azure Pipelines: "unless it is already installed" :D
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