IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-07-30
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09:23:47 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7673: Unable to completely remove custom text from a town after setting it (via game script) https://git.io/fjSuX
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09:31:19 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game. https://git.io/fjSuj
09:33:59 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game. https://git.io/fjSzf
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11:41:54 <TrueBrain> NOTICE: I am about to roll over to a new kubernetes cluster; if you notice anything weird on www.openttd.org (more than normal), please let me know! (it should be transparent, the roll-over ... but yeah ... you know how that goes :P)
11:47:16 <TrueBrain> right, around now everyone should have been switched, assuming people obey the TTL
11:49:19 <peter1139> 178.128.142.182. I don't know what it was before :p
11:49:24 <TrueBrain> similar, but different :)
11:49:30 <peter1139> 2a02:b0c0:2:d0::dc6:7001
11:49:32 <TrueBrain> I love k8s .. redeploying is easy
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11:50:59 <TrueBrain> DigitalOcean doesn't allow assigning floating IPs to LoadBalancer (yet)
11:51:06 <TrueBrain> so I changed the TTL to 60 a few hours ago ;)
11:51:22 <TrueBrain> and indeed, the old cluster is fully silent now
11:52:10 <TrueBrain> damn, this worked a lot better than I expected tbh :P
11:52:45 <TrueBrain> do IPv6 downloads work btw?
11:54:55 <LordAro> well curl happily printed a zip file to my terminal, i guess so :)
11:55:16 <TrueBrain> and I see IPv6s in the logs, so yeah, tnx
11:56:26 <Samu> what is kubernetes for dummies?
11:56:46 <Arveen> container system like Docker
11:57:52 <Eddi|zuHause> does that mean no more "ipv6 broke again" ticktets?
11:58:43 <TrueBrain> Arveen: that is dumbing it down a lot :P More: a good orchestration for containers :P
11:58:50 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: nope, it doesn't mean that at all
11:59:06 <TrueBrain> it does mean: if a host crashes, Flannel doesn't fuck up, and things break
12:00:23 <TrueBrain> someone is polling our RSS feed every 2 minutes ... guess they REALLY want to stay up-to-date on the latest
12:00:23 <Samu> seems like a linux command line stuff
12:01:47 <Eddi|zuHause> send them a 403, and watch them retry every half a second?
12:02:12 <TrueBrain> worst part is, they download both the atom feed and the RSS feed
12:02:23 <TrueBrain> because maybe they are not in sync? :P
12:04:13 <LordAro> iptables -s <ip> -j DROP
12:04:39 <TrueBrain> but we used to have people that queried their server every second
12:04:50 <TrueBrain> and were shocked to hear that was not reasonable use of our service
12:05:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not a fan of silently dropping these queries
12:06:23 <TrueBrain> that is why you should put your email address in the user agent if you make a bot like that :)
12:06:33 <TrueBrain> allows owners to contact you to ask: wtf?! :P
12:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause> still, replying with actual error messages might be better, unless it's a DDoS or spam
12:07:43 <TrueBrain> every second in those days was a DoS, yes
12:07:50 <planetmaker> hey ho :) a TB, what a delightful sight
12:08:13 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: these days there are better solutions .. like redirecting IPs to a simple nginx that says: you are doing it wrong
12:08:33 <TrueBrain> resources are less of an issue I guess :)
12:08:57 <TrueBrain> we survived that dude with his fun youtube about OpenTTD just fine for example :P
12:09:25 <TrueBrain> (you did see that, right?)
12:09:57 <TrueBrain> that dude is awesome btw :)
12:10:06 <TrueBrain> (oeh, I missed a Rick Roll moment here, did I? :( )
12:10:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i've seen that dude before, just not this video
12:10:40 <TrueBrain> too bad people still think OpenTTD stands for something :P
12:14:21 <planetmaker> hm, na, didn't see that yet
12:14:25 <LordAro> i saw a link to it somewhere
12:14:32 <TrueBrain> well, enjoy :) It is hilarious :)
12:14:45 <planetmaker> but I noticed there's some youtuber who has an OpenTTD series
12:16:54 <TrueBrain> 10k views is not bad
12:17:15 <TrueBrain> I like how he is doing it in HD :D
12:17:42 <planetmaker> oh, well, yes :) and indeed... so people watch it with some time delay.
12:18:02 <planetmaker> he's now at season 6, not 2 which I linked from beginning of this year
12:38:08 <peter1139> You can. Follow the permanent redirect.
12:38:36 <Samu> doesn't redirect to anything
12:39:03 <Samu> nop, just says that, no redirection occurs
12:39:27 <peter1139> Learn to use your tools.
12:39:38 <peter1139> The new location is provided in the headers of the response.
12:41:02 <LordAro> Samu: go back a bit, what did you use to get the 308 response? because it wasn't a browser
12:41:47 <Samu> entered openttd.org/ and that 308 eerror pops, doesn't redirect anywhere, and no link
12:42:43 <LordAro> 301 is permanent redirect
12:43:35 <LordAro> TrueBrain: that IP spamming the rss feeds wouldn't happen to be Portuguese, would it?
12:44:08 <LordAro> `curl openttd.org/` gets me a 301, anyway
12:44:15 <LordAro> (with a valid Location, ofc)
12:44:46 <peter1139> openttd.org has a different IP address to www.openttd.org, heh.
12:45:32 <LordAro> yes, i get the 308 from www.openttd.org/
12:47:25 <LordAro> IE, Edge, FF & Chrome all redirect the 308 just fine
12:47:32 <LordAro> so i've no idea what he's managed to do this time
12:47:41 <LordAro> DNS weirdness somewhere, probably
12:50:17 <peter1139> Not using a web browser, I suspect.
12:50:55 <TrueBrain> depending on your tool, it doesn't follow redirects
12:50:59 <TrueBrain> and if you don't know how to read headers .....
12:51:31 <TrueBrain> LordAro: it is an IPv6, lets see if that is in the whois database
12:51:56 <TrueBrain> Deutsche Telekom AG
12:54:38 <TrueBrain> too bad, would have been funny :D
12:55:08 <TrueBrain> (btw, the 308 is because he hits http instead of https)
12:55:14 <TrueBrain> in case that wasnt clear :P
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13:10:38 <peter1139> Not really. 301 vs 308 is to do with POST staying POST, not http vs https.
13:10:52 <TrueBrain> I wasn't talking about 308 vs 301 :)
13:11:06 <TrueBrain> I was reffering to the fact he got a 308 :)
13:11:19 <peter1139> Ah, well, we knew that :D
13:11:25 <TrueBrain> I assumed as much :P
13:11:47 <peter1139> Is it lunch time yet?
13:11:58 <peter1139> Kinda early for me but tummy rumbling.
13:12:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that, and i actually have to go to a place...
13:16:24 <peter1139> Gonna let my brie warm up a bit first.
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13:47:52 <Samu> didn't work on the other
13:49:34 <Samu> if they plan to move me to the other side...
13:50:04 <Samu> oh fuck, this is not the life I had in mind
13:50:39 <Samu> no admin privileges there either
13:50:50 <Samu> this sucks, I can't do shit
13:53:41 <Samu> I need my computer, or I'm going insane
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13:55:56 <peter1139> Didn't work in what, though?
13:57:14 <Samu> some other system where I got the 308 error when accessing openttd.org
13:57:31 <Samu> this is kind of an institution
13:57:41 <Samu> has multiple systems on some domain
13:57:55 <Samu> it was internet explorer
13:58:15 <Samu> but it was also windows 7
13:59:04 <peter1139> So probably something ancient that shouldn't be on the Internet anyway.
14:00:06 <Samu> didn't look like a dated version, but not sure which one it is
14:01:55 <Samu> whichever IE comes installed with windows 7 as minimum version
14:02:26 <peter1139> That would be something obsolete, yes.
14:05:20 <Samu> here, there's IE11, just checked
14:06:31 <Samu> and there there was only IE, but didn't see which one
14:07:02 <Samu> I dont think i can go to the other side anytime soon now
14:23:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and he didn't even do the tree exploit "correctly"
15:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> "what portion of your audience wasn't born when this game came out?" ~ "45%"
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20:35:55 <andythenorth> 2 trains to draw
20:36:02 <andythenorth> small is hardest
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23:31:56 <Samu> just some insanity music videos
23:40:57 <Samu> and videos too while at it
23:41:14 <Samu> ok, im off to sleep, take care
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