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01:24:28  <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7626: Building drive through road stop on town-owned one-way road crashes game. https://git.io/fjVqg

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10:42:24  <ntsbmvnk> uh

10:42:31  <ntsbmvnk> is this a common thing?

10:42:44  <Eddi|zuHause> what?

10:42:52  <ntsbmvnk> the giant burst of parts and joins?

10:43:06  <Eddi|zuHause> a netsplit?

10:43:12  <Eddi|zuHause> happens sporadically

10:43:50  <nakki> aren't those matrix clients

10:44:15  <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, i have join/part disabled for people who haven't said a word in the last 24 hours

10:44:45  <nakki> yeah that's nice

10:44:55  <Eddi|zuHause> but if the matrix bridge goes down, it's effectively the same as a netsplit

10:45:00  <nakki> yeah true

10:45:01  <Heiki> looks like the Matrix gateway is having some hiccup, nothing serious I think

10:45:15  <ntsbmvnk> oh right, fair

10:45:32  <ntsbmvnk> I'm used to how freenode handles it - makes sense.

10:49:06  <peter1138> Personally I'd just ban it :p

10:50:13  <planetmaker> from the amount of talk being done, you can probably skip 80% of the users here and miss 5% of talk at most :D

11:10:25  <ntsbmvnk> but I enjoy lurking

11:11:13  <nakki> me too

11:11:28  <nakki> i have 32 buffers open in weechat, and i actively use... maybe five?

11:14:14  <ntsbmvnk> I lurk aggressively

11:14:28  <ntsbmvnk> to the point I have a vm just running my irc client

11:16:37  <nakki> i have a server in my bedroom running my irc client, an openttd server, murmur and nginx

11:17:10  <nakki> built out of old parts cannibalized from previous desktop computers

11:19:20  <ntsbmvnk> nice.

11:19:33  <nakki> it's pretty handy

11:19:38  <ntsbmvnk> I'm just cheap an bought a vm

11:19:38  <nakki> got fairly low ping to it :P

11:19:51  <nakki> yeah i used to have a hetzner vps

11:19:55  <nakki> and a digitalocean one before that

11:19:58  <ntsbmvnk> there's something magical to using *someone else's computer*

11:23:33  <LordAro> peter1138: eh, matrix is much closer to an actual irc user than a discord bridge

11:23:45  <LordAro> no different when irccloud has issues

11:23:57  <LordAro> or <insert other cloud irc provider here>

11:28:42  <planetmaker> ntsbmvnk, well... guess what my IRC connection runs on... a VM with just an IRC bouncer. But not from my bedroom. I prefer to have it running elsewhere.

11:30:41  * LordAro also

11:30:47  <peter1138> LordAro, I'm aware. Fortunately the mass disconnects don't happen often.

11:31:01  <peter1138> Also, I had a mini patisserie.

11:31:20  * LordAro also has irssi permanently running in a tmux session on the same server as his znc instance

11:31:24  <LordAro> redundancy, yo

11:32:55  * peter1138 is attempting to not pig out on giant cookies.

11:34:03  <peter1138> Damn all this rain, I'm now down to only 79 miles ahead of my target.

11:34:55  <LordAro> peter1138: :<

11:35:06  <LordAro> i'm +400 right now

11:35:13  <peter1138> Oh I guess Sunday was okay, but I was away.

11:35:38  <LordAro> considering upping my target to 7k

11:36:11  <peter1138> :-)

11:36:48  <LordAro> managed to screw up my rear brake while fiddling with it yesterday evening

11:36:53  <peter1138> Uh oh

11:37:11  <LordAro> but i now know more precisely what was wrong with it before - one of the pistons has jammed

11:37:25  <LordAro> explains the excessively uneven wear

11:37:48  <LordAro> managed to jam some old pads in it so that it was only slightly sticking

11:37:55  <LordAro> 5 miles to work seems to have improved it

11:46:32  <peter1138> If it's jammed then it'll probably just jam again :(

11:47:07  <LordAro> oh, i mean the pads were only slightly sticking to the disc

11:47:13  <LordAro> the piston won't budge at all

11:47:24  <peter1138> Ah.

11:47:33  <peter1138> New calipers are not *that* expensive.

11:47:41  <peter1138> Better than having non-working brakes.

11:47:56  <LordAro> indeed

11:48:23  <LordAro> shop can probably free it though, i was just unable to while it was still attached to the bike

11:49:08  <LordAro> when googling i saw several mentions of "grease guns" being used, which can do ridiciulous amounts of PSI

11:50:20  <LordAro> (there were equally many people saying this was ridiculous and unsafe thing to do)

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12:23:53  <peter1138> Hmm, 76.9 kg. I can probably get away with a cookie :p

12:24:49  <nakki> hah

12:24:54  <nakki> nice

12:26:47  <peter1138> But if I have fruit, I can eat more!

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14:51:02  <andythenorth> yo

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14:52:39  <planetmaker> o/

14:59:03  <peter1138> I already lunched without verifying that it was lunchtime!

14:59:05  <peter1138> Shame on me.

15:00:23  <planetmaker> oh noes...! But we shall exercise merci and forgive you

15:00:45  <planetmaker> but more important: is it tea time already?

15:00:50  <planetmaker> My stomach says 'yes'

15:02:34  <Eddi|zuHause> with so many english people here there's a surprisingly low amount of discussion about teatime

15:04:16  <planetmaker> one might think that clichées don't always hold true :P

15:05:25  <nakki> this is my fifth cup of coffee during this workday

15:05:33  <nakki> i should probably switch to tea

15:14:24  <supermop_work> it is kouign amann time here

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15:16:17  <supermop_work> plus 2nd cup of coffee

15:16:45  <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: we're too busy drinking tea to discuss it

15:17:00  <LordAro> "is it teatime" is a useless question

15:17:13  <andythenorth> I stopped drinking tea 10 years ago

15:17:16  <andythenorth> I missi t

15:17:18  <andythenorth> miss it *

15:17:48  * andythenorth thinking of ways to make some vehicles get higher cargo payment

15:17:55  <andythenorth> this might be unwise

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15:33:15  <ntsbmvnk> planetmaker: tea isn't a universal thing among the English

15:33:30  <ntsbmvnk> tea in the sense of referring to dinner

15:33:44  <ntsbmvnk> tea, as in the drink, we're wild for.

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16:20:16  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you might try to micromanage things that shouldn't be micromanaged?

16:22:11  <andythenorth> it's liable to not work

16:22:45  <andythenorth> eh well

16:24:01  <andythenorth> I designed 3 vehicle sets without understanding what prop 2B does :)  So now I am trying to bail myself out :P

16:24:07  <andythenorth> without redesigning :P

16:24:22  <andythenorth> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/28/79/4c2879b8c1e1a44bbd8cb9d7b3778977.png

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18:25:51  <ntsbmvnk> What are the highest profit industries to go after?

18:26:00  <Eddi|zuHause> passengers

18:26:14  <ntsbmvnk> I've had a bit of a play and got coal>power going + wood>sawmill

18:26:23  <ntsbmvnk> Eddi|zuHause: really?

18:26:27  <Eddi|zuHause> you get profit both ways, and near infinite growth

18:26:35  <ntsbmvnk> oh neat

18:39:30  <FLHerne> ntsbmvnk: Other than passengers, goods (and steel to a lesser extent) are much more profitable than primary cargos

18:40:36  <FLHerne> ntsbmvnk: Note that there's a "cargo payment rates" graph under the graphs menu

18:41:49  <FLHerne> Because payments are by distance, and payment rates increase with end-to-end average speed, the way to make silly money in OTTD is to ship anything you like from one end of the map to the other in as straight a line as possible

18:43:11  <FLHerne> That includes building straight over intervening mountains, because the extra train locomotives are very cheap in the long run compared to a longer route, more construction time, or terraforming costs

18:43:47  <FLHerne> Note: this will leave you with (a) a very ugly map and (b) more money than you can ever plausibly spend on anything

18:44:36  <FLHerne> So most long-term players stop caring about money and come up with some other target

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18:48:59  <Eddi|zuHause> the most no-brainer money printing machine is put two airports at opposite ends of the map

18:50:39  <frosch123> i think, if you enable breakdowns, there is an optimum distance for aircraft transport, which is smaller than infinity

18:51:11  <Eddi|zuHause> possibly, but it depends on plane model and plane speed factor

18:56:04  <andythenorth> quak

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19:31:31  * andythenorth plots

19:31:41  <andythenorth> mud HAUL road and concrete HAUL road?

19:34:40  <andythenorth> or maybe like this? o_O https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=75941&hilit=docklands#p1182980

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19:55:20  <Eddi|zuHause> rural haul road and industrial haul road?

19:59:41  <andythenorth> yes

20:00:00  <andythenorth> we have lots of types :)

20:00:07  <andythenorth> nesting the build menu? o_O

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20:04:34  <nielsm> multi-column menu?

20:05:19  <andythenorth> type-ahead filter menu?

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20:48:19  <Wolf01> Sleepflix time? Too soon?

20:51:55  * andythenorth making web apps

20:51:58  <andythenorth> very work

21:00:51  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: this is the point where $someone brings up the idea of separating visual differences and functional differences

21:01:25  <andythenorth> ButGroundTypes

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23:27:29  <peter1138> Urgh, fell off ;/

23:30:35  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds unhealthy

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23:31:20  <peter1138> I try to avoid it.

23:31:56  <peter1138> Narrow fast down hill section with a little gully bit. Bike tried to go up the side but it was slippery and didn't o_O

23:33:11  <Eddi|zuHause> and what did your protective gear say about the incident?

23:34:22  <peter1138> My... my what?

23:35:09  <Eddi|zuHause> dunno, helmet would be a start?

23:35:28  <peter1138> Oh right, that. No contact there.

23:35:58  <Eddi|zuHause> if i were to actually pick up biking, i might also invest in hand/elbow/knee protectors

23:37:16  <LordAro> peter1138: :(

23:39:05  <peter1138> Still, this white chocolate raspberry protein bar is nice.

23:39:50  <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a weird snickers

23:41:32  <peter1138> https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdlfcx3ve58mx2.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2Fquest-protein-bar-white-chocolate-raspberry.jpg&f=1

23:41:37  <peter1138> Something like that :p

23:41:44  <peter1138> Looks foul but tastes good.

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