IRC logs for #openttd on OFTC at 2019-06-14
            
00:20:18 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 15458434 opened issue #7623: Support for macOS Catalina. https://git.io/fj2uh
00:21:21 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 15458434 commented on issue #7623: Support for macOS Catalina. https://git.io/fj2ze
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00:38:24 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #7623: Support for macOS Catalina. https://git.io/fj2z3
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06:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you like them tickets now?
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10:21:52 <peter1138> It's lunch time?
10:38:58 <andythenorth> might be
10:45:28 <andythenorth> road vehicles maintain a distance from vehicle in front
10:45:33 <andythenorth> does it happen to be 4/8?
10:47:54 <nielsm> they do?
10:48:16 <nielsm> I regularly get road vehicles running straight end to end
10:48:48 <nielsm> (that can happen when they load at a drive-through stop and finish loading at the same time)
10:49:15 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9463/RV_distance.png
10:49:37 <andythenorth> it's not an important thing, just trying to understand RV lengths and routing
10:49:55 <andythenorth> in current tests, there are no particular lengths that block stations less than others
10:50:00 <nielsm> hmm are they waiting in that screenshot?
10:50:03 <andythenorth> yes
10:50:09 <nielsm> because that looks "wrong"
10:50:12 <andythenorth> but they do the same if they're not in stops
10:50:47 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9464/RV_distance_2.png
10:51:01 <andythenorth> related: RVs aren't particularly good at finding empty road stop bays
10:51:19 <andythenorth> more often than not, they'll go for one that's occupied, then block
10:52:31 <nielsm> https://0x0.st/z1ZS.png
10:52:50 <nielsm> default vehicles can be directly end to end
10:53:29 <nielsm> yeah that behaviour with picking an empty loading bay is an unfortunate side effect of the path caching
10:55:13 <andythenorth> how interesting https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9465/RV_distance_oof.png
10:55:27 <andythenorth> trams are 16/8 and don't have gaps
10:55:47 <andythenorth> the feldbhan trains are 19/8 and have gaps
10:56:14 <nielsm> I wonder if it rounds length up to a full halftile
10:56:31 <andythenorth> code will know :)
10:56:42 <andythenorth> I have to go to work, might look more in a bit
10:56:56 <andythenorth> trying to find lengths that are optimum for gameplay, if they exist
10:57:01 <andythenorth> otherwise I just pick ones that look nice
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12:58:23 <peter1138> Maybe lunch time.
12:59:59 <nakki> mmh
13:00:01 <nakki> it was three hours ago
13:00:36 <nakki> got some chow from a student union -owned chain
13:00:42 <nakki> cheap as fuck for students and delicious
13:00:50 <nakki> i'm gonna miss these discounts if i eventually graduate
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13:06:19 <andythenorth> toast
13:19:26 <Samu> hi
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14:03:42 * andythenorth reads tram movement code
14:08:52 <andythenorth> not found much about distance, nvm :)
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14:35:44 <peter1138> I had lunch. A massive... salad. I overate on a salad. What is wrong with me?
14:35:52 <nakki> hah
14:36:31 <Artea> better than no appettite
14:36:43 <peter1138> I never have no appetite.
14:36:55 <Artea> I'm having for a couple of days now
14:37:06 <Artea> don't know what is wrong... I feel full
14:37:21 <Artea> maybe stress
14:37:38 <peter1138> Lucky. Stress makes me eat junk food.
14:37:45 <Artea> MU Online can be stressful game sometimes
14:38:16 <nakki> i have too much appetite, but i've been steadily losing weight since about a year ago when i started paying attention
14:38:29 <nakki> i've lost around 15 kilos, 10 more to go
14:38:52 <Artea> nice
14:39:06 <peter1138> Nice.
14:39:16 <nakki> so far my strategy has been conveniently forgetting to eat by finding something to really immerse myself in on my free time
14:39:22 <nakki> lately it's been learning nodejs and react
14:39:44 <peter1138> I achieved my goal last year, maintaining is somewhat easier when I continue to pay attention
14:40:19 <peter1138> My technique is to obsessively count calories (hence the joking about it here)
14:41:17 <nakki> ah
14:41:33 <nakki> i don't really have the patience for that, but i did ditch all snacking and sugary drinks
14:41:40 <nakki> but i won't give up beer
14:41:59 <nakki> i'll make concessions, but i'll never unconditionally surrender
14:42:02 <peter1138> That's the key, but I'm at the point where I can snack, but I have to limit it because snacking leads to more snacking.
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14:42:14 <nakki> mmh
14:42:20 <peter1138> So if I count it, that helps limit it.
14:42:31 <nakki> yeah
14:43:11 <peter1138> 39kg lost over 3.5 years.
14:43:21 <nakki> damn, nice
14:44:48 <andythenorth> peter1138: nothing wrong with overeating salad
14:44:58 <andythenorth> also it's actually pretty filling
14:45:19 <nakki> man, i'm hungry now
14:45:21 <peter1138> Yeah, it was mostly lettuce as well, as it was pointless to not finish it off, heh.
14:45:24 <andythenorth> that
14:45:43 <andythenorth> if I lost 39kg I'd be dead :(
14:45:51 <andythenorth> different folks, different strokes
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14:46:00 <peter1138> It helps to be rather overweight to start with... BMI 30 -> 20...
14:46:05 <nakki> hehe
14:46:07 <nakki> yeah
14:46:21 <nakki> i was a bit less than 110 at my worst, i'm now 90 and aiming for 80
14:46:22 <peter1138> I hit 19.4 last year but since Christmas haven't gone that low.
14:46:23 <nakki> kilos, that is
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14:47:14 <peter1138> My starting was 116, now I'm 76. Lowest was 75, so not much lower.
14:47:23 <nakki> mmh
14:47:24 <peter1138> I'm also fecking tall though, so apparently I look like death.
14:47:29 <nakki> hah
14:49:30 <nakki> i think i was around 65kg when i got into university
14:49:40 <nakki> stick-thin shut-in nerd
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15:44:46 <andythenorth> I am 65kg
15:45:17 <andythenorth> such fun chat
15:45:25 <andythenorth> oh these feldbahn
15:45:42 <andythenorth> by accident, the capacities now match exactly to boats in Unsinkable Sam
15:45:51 <andythenorth> which makes for very tidy transfer stations :P
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16:26:37 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ
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16:39:25 <LordAro> we should really look at merging that PR
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16:43:56 <nnyby_> >_<
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16:45:52 <LordAro> nnyby: :>
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16:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, dropping from 116 to 76 sounds really unhealthy
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16:56:58 <rubenwardy> being overweight is really unhealthy
16:57:02 <rubenwardy> so is being underweight
17:02:58 <zuzak> I read a paper once that said obese is definitely bad, but merely overweight is actually correlated with longevity
17:03:47 <Eddi|zuHause> one study does not make a scientific consensus
17:14:00 <andythenorth> I suspect that in a famine, I'd be gone be pretty early
17:16:13 <Artea> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqUbyLngjc
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17:46:54 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] matmar10 opened issue #7624: Changing rolling stock reverts on next visit to depot https://git.io/fj2MW
17:48:24 <andythenorth> how to even test that?
17:48:26 * andythenorth wonders
17:58:36 <frosch123> explain how to disable autoreplace
17:59:35 <nnyby> a little post about my openttd journey, lol: http://www.columbia.edu/~njn2118/journal/2019/6/14.html
17:59:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i understood the problem
18:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> orudge: i'm not sure, but have the "save draft" and "post reply" buttons swapped places? for like the third time in a row i clicked the wrong one...
18:10:12 <frosch123> put the "donate" button in that place then
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18:42:09 <andythenorth> hmm
18:42:11 <andythenorth> tractors
18:42:13 <andythenorth> tractor hog
18:43:23 * andythenorth biab
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20:15:49 <Wolf01> o/
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20:25:05 <andythenorth> is it lunch?
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20:33:09 <andythenorth> less talking, more coding andythenorth https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9466/feldbahn_such.png
20:34:49 <andythenorth> oh here is the train I drew already https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcjrtuqor0VFUlZ-KqHf6zIm9WzSu6bl71BcYC07FyFJpR8s0POg
20:34:52 <andythenorth> must be realistic then
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21:09:14 <peter1138> It's evening lunch time, yes.
21:09:53 <andythenorth> deliveroo
21:10:37 <peter1138> I had better, my missus came home with a surprise rib-eye steak from a local farmer.
21:11:17 <andythenorth> there are worse surprises
21:11:24 <peter1138> Indeed.
21:17:43 <LordAro> nce
21:17:47 <LordAro> nice
21:17:52 <LordAro> i need to clean my keybard
21:17:56 <LordAro> keyboard.
21:18:02 <LordAro> my i & o are dying
21:19:21 <Eddi|zuHause> kezboard
21:27:42 <andythenorth> or you bought a mac
21:27:46 <andythenorth> standard eeature
21:27:51 <andythenorth> keys odn't work
21:35:31 <Eddi|zuHause> kezboard is a standard feature when the language driver didn't load
21:36:16 <Eddi|zuHause> one of the earliest dos commands i learned was "kezb gr"
21:36:16 <glx> it's keyboqrd here
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